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    Piquet: I spoke out to protect others


    Nelson Piquet says he 'blew the whistle' on the Renault scandal not to hit back at the team after being sacked, but because he didn't want other drivers to be placed in the same position in the future.


    The FIA launched a full investigation after Piquet revealed that he had been asked to crash deliberately in the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix to cause a safety car that would help his team-mate Fernando Alonso's strategy.


    But as nearly a year had elapsed between the incident and Piquet making the complaint - and because he only spoke out after being dropped by Renault - many have suggested that he was motivated by revenge or a desire to get his drive back.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Kubica announced as Renault driver for 2010


    Robert Kubica will replace the Ferrari-bound Fernando Alonso as Renault's lead driver in 2010, the French team has announced.


    The 24-year-old Polish driver moves to Renault having spent his whole Formula 1 career so far at BMW Sauber.


    Team boss Bob Bell said Renault had been eyeing Kubica for some time.


    "Ever since Robert made his grand prix debut in 2006, he has been on our radar as one of the most naturally talented drivers of his generation, and he has delivered on that promise so it's great to have secured him in one of our cars next season," said Bell.


    "Renault has high ambitions and hopes for the future of the team and we feel that Robert can play a big role in fulfilling them."
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Senna: Pace of negotiations has increased


    Bruno Senna is edging closer to Formula One, confident he will be in the sport for next year's Championship.


    Raikkonen to Red Bull, Renault to oust Grosjean?


    As expected, the confirmation of Fernando Alonso's move to Ferrari turned the key to kick-starting the 2010 driver market.



    Abu Dhabi track gets final FIA approval



    Abu Dhabi's new Formula 1 track has been given the final green light by the FIA for it to hold its first grand prix, following a track inspection by F1 race director Charlie Whiting earlier this week.



    Wirth says Manor F1 car is on schedule



    Manor Grand Prix's first chassis should be completed by the end of November and testing at the beginning of February, according to designer Nick Wirth.



    BMW thanks Kubica for his efforts



    BMW Sauber has paid tribute to Robert Kubica's efforts over the past three seasons after the Pole was announced as a Renault driver for 2010.
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    @UK


    Bribing with mangoes is outdated for next summer but may be a promise of 24 hours uninterrupted power supply without loadshedding could do the trick.


    Williams are going for Rubens to partner Nico Hulkenberg and if the Renault deal is done and Renault provides a good engine then with the help of Williams own FlyWheel KERS they have a good chance specially as Rubens will be the No. 1 for them.
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    American driver unlikely for US F1



    Team US F1 is unlikely to run an all-American driver line up when it comes into Formula 1 next year, and could end up not running one in either seat.


    US F1 Facility Photos


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    I was thinking about next season's cars and the qualifying formats and as we knows that the qualifyings are low fuel for next season how many of the current drivers are capable of driving a car on fumes and does we see a return of qualy tires just like old days, plus the next season's cars are really big evolution of this season's car as big fuel tanks are not the only thing to design but the front tires are a bit smaller in width or radius then the rear tires meaning a whole new front and rear suspension to control the over/understeer plus generating enough traction and grip so that the car will remain undercontrol. I will post a supposed pic of next season's car with next season's regulations as soon as I find the pic on autosport forum.
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    Wheel covers to be banned


    F1 teams have agreed to ban wheel fairings for next season, Auto Motor und Sport claims.


    Massa set for FIA medical checks in Paris


    Despite earlier disputing claims Felipe Massa will make his return to the cockpit of a F1 car after the forthcoming weekend, Ferrari now admits the Brazilian could be ready for his run in the two-year-old F2007 next Monday.




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    FIA impressed by US F1's progress



    The FIA has been impressed by the work carried out by the US F1 team ahead of its debut season in 2010.


    Here is the pic of MP4-24's photoshop with 2010 spec front tires.


    - Formula 1 - Season 2009 - -1002175



    and a guess too let see who will guess this track.


    - Formula 1 - Season 2009 - -1002176
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    @genius83


    Majority of the aero will be carried over from this year to next. There are always new things that teams bring to races as we saw with the DD diffuser this year and other aerodynamic parts which were on cars before rule changes for this season. If KERS is removed, that allows teams to carry some more fuel but it won't be enough to do the entire race of course. Say in Mclaren's case, that car is fundamentally flawed. It is very good on tracks that are more stop go stop go or tight twisty tracks where the emphasis is on mechanical grip. They looked very fast in Monaco, at a time when they were struggling to get into Q2 in other races, had Hamilton not had his qualifying crash, Mclaren would have been competitive in at that stage. Take the same car, which has improved so much, drive it around Silverstone, and it will struggle to get in the top ten even today. A glaring example was at Suzuka where Mclaren was giving away as much as half a second and sometimes up to six or seven tenths to Red Bull in the first sector alone, which is made of fast flowing corners where aerodynamic grip is everything. Teams will continue to design new floors and suspension even during the season.


    The second thing is fuel consumption, Renault has been very economical this season and the Mercedes and Ferrari engines quite thirsty. I think at Singapore, Alonso's projected first stop was said to be lap 17 or something and he pitted on lap 21. Teams with not only the most powerful engine but ones that master the delicate balancing act of economy and power will be the ones to have next season especially as FIA is planning on having these engines almost at identical level at the start of the season. We won't see qualifying tires return sadly because that adding to costs. Teams and drivers are quite used to running on empty tanks or pretty much empty tanks as they do in Q2 these days. I would say, If Raikkonen is on it and has a competitive car then no one is quite as fast as him in F1 today. The man who was quicker than him is not in F1 anymore. If they were all in identical cars, Raikkonen and Trulli would do a better job in qualifying but they will both struggle against you know who over a race distance and certainly over the length of a championship.


    The track you put up has undergone quite a few changes over the years, especially turn one which resembles an alphabet now The picture has a dead give away, the "arrow" pointing towards the direction of the track. It used to be more than a 2 minute lap and now is a low 1 minute lap. The same man who i think was a quicker driver than Raikkonen, holds the lap record to the track
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    h1Massa given home race honour/h1

    Felipe Massa has been given the honour of waving the chequered flag at his home Brazilian Grand Prix next week.


    The recovering Ferrari driver had already confirmed that he would be attending the Interlagos race to mark his first appearance in a Formula 1 paddock since sustaining serious head injuries during qualifying in Hungary just over two months ago.


    And while his home event has come too soon for him to be ready to return to racing, organisers announced the local hero will be involved in the weekend in some capacity and will wave the flag at the end of the race.


    Organisers confirmed on Thursday that Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo had accepted the initiation on Massa’s behalf, with the two-time Interlagos winner to follow in the footsteps of football legend Pele and model Gisele Bundchen.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    h1Brawn calls for aero clampdown/h1

    Ross Brawn is convinced further radical rule changes are necessary to increase overtaking and improve the spectacle in Formula 1.


    It was hoped that the return of slick tyres, a big reduction in aerodynamic downforce, adjustable front wings and Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems for 2009 would generate much closer racing than in recent years.


    But although cars are now able to follow each other a little more closely owing to a reduced aerodynamic wake, passing moves have not been noticeably more frequent.


    Brawn believes the key reason for this is that the cars still generate much too high a proportion of their overall grip from aerodynamic surfaces, which are sensitive to turbulence, rather than mechanical grip from the tyres – and that no amount of tinkering will work until this nettle is grasped.
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    Sponsor stays at Renault after Crash-gate


    One of Renault's existing on-car sponsors has announced it will not be following ING and Mutua Madrilena by pulling out of the French team with immediate effect.


    Webber to support Vettel's title push


    Mark Webber will now support his Red Bull teammate Sebastian Vettel's charge for the 2009 drivers' title, their boss Christian Horner has revealed.


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    Then it means that most of the qualifying works will be depended on supersoft or soft tires according to the temperatures of the tracks because hard or medium tires will not provide grip as early as in Q1 where a 20 minutes session will see 26 to 28 cars on the track at the same time and posting a fast lap would be almost impossible.


    Yes, you have got it right and by seeing this track layout a question that comes to my mind is why they have to renovate and chop this track down to what it is actually nowadays is their any fatal accident happened there or just FIA's stupid rules because the races are not lap specific but rather they are distance specific plus a time limit is also been imposed nowadays. Why we need to have every track with almost the same distance why not some smaller distance tracks with more laps to complete the allocated distance completed simultaneously a large race track with less laps like Spa which has only 44 laps but still covers the allocated 305+ km distance during the race. We have lost Osterrichring(Austria) which chop down to A1-ring, Old Hockenheim which chop down to new Hockenheim, Old Spa(14+km) to this new Spa(7+km), Nordschelife to Nurburgring because the former was dangerous for the aerodependant cars and the above posted track for what it is nowadays.


    As for Brawn's comment I think he should just think what he did with the rules by going to DD diffuser he washed the whole work done by OWG. I am still convinced that if DD was declared illegal we have seen more overtaking just like what we have seen at Melbourne at the season opener.
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    Williams eye Petronas backing?


    Williams is reportedly opposed to BMW Sauber receiving a guaranteed 14th team entry for 2010 because it wants to secure the Swiss outfit's major long-term Malaysian sponsor Petronas.


    Red Bull not an option for Raikkonen


    Kimi Raikkonen's manager has played down reports linking the Finn with a move to Red Bull Racing.


    Summerton keen to step up with USF1


    A young American driver has revealed he has a "very good" chance of making his Formula One debut with the new USF1 team next season.


    @UK


    IRL has a classic finale this weekend with top 3 drivers just apart from eachother with only 8 points. Scott Dixon(Ganassi) the points leader with 3 points behind him his teammate Dario Franchitti(Ganassi) and further 5 points behind Dario is Ryan Briscoe(Penske). Whoever wins the race will becomes the champion.
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    I am looking forward to the fastest driver/car starting from pole and not strategy playing a part in who starts where with some teams running light at times for various reasons.


    About the track, i don't think there has been a fatal crash there. It changed with time, as F1 moved more towards safety, more TV coverage etc. A couple of years back i read an article that alleged Bernie Ecclestone insists his guy, Hermann Tilke design most tracks or make modifications to them, and one condition he puts in is that the track should have at least one or two first, second gear corners so the cars slow down enough for cameras to pick the different sponsors on the cars, the smaller ones so they have TV exposure.


    Another factor that figures in the equation is safety. A long track requires a lot of marshals, it would also involve more cameras for coverage and in case of an accident it would take the medical car longer to reach the scene of the accident. All that stuff has resulted in the production of modern boring F1 tracks. There was no reason to change the old Hockenheim. That along with Monza and Montreal made for three minimum down force tracks which placed different demands on drivers and cars.


    Read about the IRL show down, it made me think, why not have that scoring system in F1? If the aim is to have championship decider's go down to the wire artificially than the IRL scoring system would work well in F1. Ryan Briscoe was 25 points ahead before the last race at twin ring Motegi , his crash there and finishing 18th means he not only lost first place in the championship table but second too.
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    Kimi raikkonen struggling for a good team in formula 1 why why? he is a very good driver Mclaren team take him back. Ferrari make a big mistake as Massa maybe not as good today or next year as he was before accident. Ferrari make dream team if they have Kimi raikkonen Fernando alonso pairing but they drop ice man for no reason. Kimi raikkonen won one race and finish on the podium in some other races this season. The car is not good what else Ferrari want from him?

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    Tests show Massa's eye is fully healed



    Felipe Massa's vision has fully recovered after his Hungaroring accident, an examination in Paris has confirmed.



    Sato still chasing an F1 return



    Takuma Sato says he is determined to return to racing in 2010 - and that he will only look at options beyond Formula 1 when all hopes of a grand prix drive have been exhausted.


    Money talks, rookies eye new F1 seats


    Bruno Senna may now have signed a deal to make his Formula One debut with the new Spanish team Campos in 2010, according to Auto Motor und Sport. The Brazilian is said to bring substantial personal sponsorship – rumoured at more than €10m - as the arrival of up to four new teams next year signals the return of a pay-driver era. Favourite to be his team-mate is Pedro de la Rosa.
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    @UK


    I am in fully agreement with what you are saying about tracks but F1 is the pinnacle of motorsports and if they want it to run on almost similar tracks then they will becomes IRL's Global event with races across the whole world. F1 should have 1 or 2 high speed circuits with 1 or 2 street circuits, some aerodependant circuits, may be like the old days an oval circuit, 1 or 2 long circuits and we may have a good season where every kind of driver prove his worth in good or bad manner.


    As for what Bernie's said to Tilke then asking for 1 or 2 slow corners is a different thing and designing a full single lane circuit is a different thing. Amazingly enough Hermann Tilke's recent design circuits are all single lane circuits the best circuit he has design is Sepang or may be Istanbul.


    As far as safety is concerned I think Ricardo Paletti died on the start/finish straight at the start of 82's Canadian GP after colliding with a stall car of Didier Pironi, and that was the most close place of safety car and medical teams to reach but still they can't save him from imminent. On long ciruits if they put more safety and medical cars at different points on the track then I don't think they can't reach any accident site without any delay.


    IRL award 1 point for taking pole and they award points to all the drivers competing in a race plus points are awarded to that driver who lead the field most laps. F1 should award 1 point for pole position from next season when we have the fastest driver on pole.
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    @genius83


    There are many factors besides TV considerations and safety. You need to have drivers who are willing to race on those tracks. Everything changed after 1994, two people died at a GP and one was injured badly apart from other incidents. One of the two who died was the biggest racer at that time and people took the loss personally. FIA felt they needed to react, and i think it was a knee jerk reaction. Chicanes popped up every where, tracks were redesigned, cars were redesigned, helmets, HANS device, the area around the cockpit kept changing, wheels tethers etc. Add to that a few sissy world champions. When it was announced that F1 would have grooved tires from 1998, Jacques Villeneuve threatened to quit F1 if that rule was introduced. It was merely a threat, but he, Villeneuve a purist, needed support from Schumacher and Hill to have any hope of fighting that idea but that help never came. Instead the GPDA had their safety team which at one time was headed by Schumacher then Trulli, and later on by Webber, don't know who heads that now, and it would go to different tracks and suggest changes, safety changes. To this day these drivers are not happy with safety standards.


    In a day and age where we have a white line while exiting the pitlane, so that we don't have a car that gets in that path of another car which is coming down the main straight at a higher speed, it is wishful thinking that these teams and drivers would agree to racing on some of the tracks you have suggested. They are happy with the mickey mouse tracks F1 visits.


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    Ummm dropped for no reason? Are you talking about the same driver that Ferrari paid big bucks to for `07, 08,`09, and were going to do the same for 2010 to drive the most prestigious marque. In this case they have paid him not to drive for them. This is their star driver who was outshone by Massa in `08, and every one including myself thought he would be back with a vengeance for this season. Alright, so the car is not capable of fighting at the front, but a) He should have been able to help the team and lead them in the right direction, b) He was out driven by Massa again before his accident at the Hungaroring. If Massa can provide the same service and most would agree he has been a better driver than Raikkonen in 2008 and 2009 then Ferrari should not have to pay Raikkonen that kinda money and instead spend it some where else.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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    Dario Franchitti wins the IRL with Ryan Briscoe second and Scott Dixon third. A new record was set during the race as this was the first race in the history of IRL which don't have a full course yellow throughout the race.


    Interlagos weather prediction is most likely wet throughout the GP weekend.


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    Glock ruled out of Brazilian GP



    Kamui Kobayashi will deputise for Timo Glock at Toyota in the Brazilian Grand Prix after it was revealed that Glock sustained a cracked vertebrae in his Suzuka accident.


    Grosjean admits 2010 seat not assured


    Romain Grosjean has confirmed that his future at the Renault team is yet to be assured.


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    Red Bull's team management is under pressure from the Milton-Keynes design office, headed by Adrian Newey, to confirm the brand of engines for the 2010 season.


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    Personally i would like to see FIA revert back to the Friday third car system they had in place a few years back. If possible, they could extend both the Friday sessions by 30 minutes, allow teams to have a third car and they Friday running of both the regular drivers should not count towards their engine allocation. That would give teams time to test new parts with their third driver and allow the regular drivers to work on set ups and test new parts too. Additionally, teams with smaller budgets can have a pay driver at the odd race who can test and bring some money to the team. It will bring the test drivers back into play and also help young drivers learn.


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    It was quite a tactical race from what i read, something one does not usually associate too much with IRL.
    Come back, Luca Badoer, all is forgiven.

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