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    Default Pressure Group 4 Welfare of Motorcycling in Pakistan

    Friends

    Today we see many problems generated by many stake holders of the society

    These are faced by the users/consumers

    Though the Government has introduced some ways to cover such issues faced by the people, for example there is a Ministry of Industries & Production, Consumer Court etc

    But in most of the cases either we face long delays in progress of cases or we are unable to reach the desired personality

    When I got ma bike I had some problem, I went to company but they even refused to accept the fault, after that they also informed me that the problem has occurred due to one of my act

    So, as I had 2 join the club in a TriP, I went for repair. As you all know after self repair or non branded repair etc company do not accepts claims. So, most of people said this to me. I discussed this with one of my fellow member (senior) and we used our Club’s platform/name to defend our right.

    In a few days I was able to get the thing done by company itself.

    The part was fully replaced by the company and I was entertained well

    So the Pressure Group worked.

    Now, PBC, Pakistan comes out for such things, issues and problems faced by the riders of Pakistan and assures them that we will try our best to support you to maximum extent.

    Conditions:

    PBC, Pakistan will examine the whole issue with its possibility

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    Issue must be for your own bike

    Some issues can be after warranty time, but if these really deal with some major production errors.

    You can discuss or give issues here or email to:



    pbcpakistan@live.com


    ,


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    0314 4179 007, 0300 4400 130

    waiting for support





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    Quote Originally Posted by malikg115 View Post
    ya little profit
    but not for all
    do u expect huge profit from a concern just in start?
    y?
    all will come to invest here
    btw, atlas honda earns huge prfit some these 2
    I am not mean a big profit
    I just want to say there is a few businessmen import the whole CD70 from China,
    they assemble it in the local market,
    mean while,chinese goods is cheap,but pakistans is clever ,always ask the low price,so you can consider that?

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    ya i know
    they ask for price not qlty
    even if the customer is ready 2 pay for good qlty
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    What about this bike ? Cant we have it , here, in Pakistan ?
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    well, this is not the right place
    u canm ask at PBC thread
    btw, i think u can get 1 from KHI from china brands n may b in LHR 2
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    i agr33d

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    i agreed. i was using suzuki eco110 and now within 2 or 3 days i m gonna GS150.
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    thanks guys for joining us
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    y nt bikes likes cbr 125 or 150 introduce, can v convince the companies?

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    i inspired on the pak wheel forums and purchase gs 150.... but waqai bakwas hai.... gs 150 koi c bike aap chaltay hoye back se examin kr lo us ka wheel out chalta hai ,, lehra lehra ke...chain sporket me bohat problem hai her 150 me clucth choro to khat ki awaz aati hai,,, ,,, rear tyre always out,,, breaks na honay k barabar,,,,paint quality ek dam ghatya ,,, etc etc etc etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAIFARAIN View Post
    i inspired on the pak wheel forums and purchase gs 150.... but waqai bakwas hai.... gs 150 koi c bike aap chaltay hoye back se examin kr lo us ka wheel out chalta hai ,, lehra lehra ke...chain sporket me bohat problem hai her 150 me clucth choro to khat ki awaz aati hai,,, ,,, rear tyre always out,,, breaks na honay k barabar,,,,paint quality ek dam ghatya ,,, etc etc etc etc etc
    agreed

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    Default lo ji pressure group itna tanda para ha,, garam ho ja

    Yamaha Japan may scrap plans for plant in Karachi
    Yamaha Japan may scrap plans for plant in Karachi
    TOKYO: Yamaha Motors Japan may cancel its 150 million dollars investment plan to set up motorcycles manufacturing unit in Pakistan due to bureaucratic hurdles, sources close to the matter told The News on Friday.

    Even President Asif Ali Zardari failed to get implemented his own orders to facilitate Yamaha Motors in establishing its unit in Pakistan, sources said.

    Yamaha’s plan to set up its manufacturing plant in Karachi, for local sales and exports, was delayed due to bureaucratic snags and opposition from Dawood Yamaha, the Pakistani franchise holder.

    India has started talks with Yamaha to review its plan and initiate the same project in India, sources said.

    Yamaha may consider Indian offer due to cold response from Pakistan, sources said.


    Yamaha was waiting for a response from Pakistan for last three years, sources said. During this period Yamaha’s senior officials met with President Zardari at least twice, and President Zardari welcomed them to invest in Pakistan but the bureaucracy created hurdles for Japanese automobile giant to initiate the project in Pakistan.

    Yamaha Motor President Hiroyuki Yanagi met with President Zardari during his visit to Japan in February. Yanagi requested Zardari to remove the hurdles to Yamaha Japan’s entry in Pakistan, sources reminded.

    Minister of Industries Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani, Chairman Board of Investment Saleem Mandviwala, Secretary Industries, and other officials were present at the said meeting where President Zardari issued orders to all the concerned people to immediately help Yamaha start its project in Pakistan. But the situation remains unchanged even after four months, sources said.

    Yanagi had told the Pakistani authorities that his company would spend $150 million for setting up a new plant at 50 acres plot in Bin Qasim near Karachi. He said Yamaha would bring advanced technology to Pakistan where initially 22,000 motorcycles of 125-150 cc, per year, would be manufactured in the factory with electronic fuel injection (EFI) engines and during the next ten years its production would reach to 750,000.

    The company would also provide comprehensive training and technical education to its employees, dealers, and vendors.

    Yanagi had told the Pakistani dignitaries that 45,000 people would get direct and indirect employment from the said project, sources recalled.
    لو جی ۔۔ ابیل آ مجھے مار۔۔
    what the hell is going on in this country.. look how dangerous it is and still there are so many entrepreneurs taking risk of doing business here and bringing in investment and what the hell our govt is doing to help them ?

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    scrap plans for plant in Karachi .... ye ho kya rha he dustbin samjh rakha he kya ? :|
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    got a good article to share
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    Bike exports surge to 10,500 during April to July 2011
    Value of Chinese bike parts fixed at higher side, Tractor, heavy vehicles parts get benefits
    Every big organization always tries to corner or eat up their market rivals in order to maintain their monopoly and market share.
    A leading Japanese bike maker with the help of manufacturers’ association have been using all sort of market tactics to sideline the low cost Japanese bike markers so that it could regain its lost market share in the urban areas especially in Karachi.

    Hurdles are being created at both federal and provincial level and even at the ministries’ level but the Chinese bike makers, on the back of stable urban demand, have been running over the hurdles. However, for the few months, the Chinese bike makers seem to have become tired in making efforts to clarify their point of view before Member Customs FBR and Director General Customs Valuation Customs House seeking lower values for bike parts of Chinese origin.

    Officials of the Association of Pakistan Motorcycle Assemblers (APMA) again recently met the top official of FBR and Customs Valuation Department but so far the problem still exists.
    APMA drew the attention towards problems being faced by the importer-***-assembler of motorcycle and importers of motorcycle parts for commercial purpose at Customs Valuation Department and difficulties in clearance of parts through PRAL and through PACCs.
    APMA has put the responsibility on one big bike assembler so that the big company could maintain its dominating position in the market. The APMA also blamed PAMA for taking the side of the Japanese bike maker who does not like to see the prosperity of small and medium sized bike makers who are selling motorcycle at 40 per cent lesser than the price of a leading Japanese bike maker. The retail price of Honda CD-70 is Rs 66,500 and the price of Chinese bike hovers between Rs 40,000-42,000.
    The Association said that the maker of Honda also wants to discontinue the export of bike by Chinese bike makers at a price ranging between $360-400 per unit which is earning precious foreign exchange for the country.
    Due to rising cost of production on account of higher valuation of parts and accessories the Chinese bike makers are unable to lower the prices and instead the assemblers are bound to pass on the impact of higher valuation to the end users. Some assemblers are trying to take the hit on themselves by not raising the prices after fixation of higher valuation of parts especially because of stiff competition in urban market especially Karachi.
    The Association said that the Customs department is issuing the valuation advice without consulting the stakeholders, market survey and without the origin items and without obtaining quotation from international markets in violation of Section 25 of the Customs Act. They are entertaining the monopolies of some leading bike makers.

    APMA seeks cancellation of Valuation Advice/Ruling under section 25-A No.333 dated 07-06.2011 of motorcycle parts, components (China) and assessment to be done on the basis of international market by origin of imported goods or accept importers declared values or may recover custom duties from the importers of motorcycle parts China origin at $1.2 per kg on all parts up to refixation of values of motorcycle parts by the Valuation Department.

    The Association said “all the China origin auto sector parts for cars, tractors, aluminum alloy wheels, high tensile screws and bolts and motorcycles are based on same technology and materials but the Director General of Customs Valuation has issued different valuation advises/rulings for auto parts.”
    The Valuation Department issued customs value (C&F) values for aluminum alloy wheels and wheel rims of all vehicles at $3.38 for China origin and $4.0 per kg for all other origins. The value for wheel rim (other than alloy) of all vehicles imported from China was fixed at $0.43 per kg or less than half dollar per kg for all other origin too. In March this year, the value of high tensile screws and bolts imported from China was fixed at $1.1 per kg.
    On June 23 this year, the value for about 17 different tractor parts and components of Chinese origin was determined at $1.5 to $3.00 per kg. In June this year, the value of bike parts for example aluminum crank case was fixed at $5.45 per kg and crank case at $5.87 per kg, carburetor at $13.54 per kg etc.
    The value for crank case cover for left and right were fixed at $5.4 and $5.15 per kg respectively. Rectified regulator was valued at $10.20 per kg followed by insulator carburetor at $13.60, spark plug at $6.61, ring piston top $10 per kg, spring clutch level $11 per kg, valve inlet $16.42 per kg, oil through $25 per kg, cover cylinder head $29.74 per kg and cover cylinder head top $33.66 per kg.
    APMA said that due to increase in valuation rates, the association members could not reduce the price after government’s decision of abolishing 2.5 per cent special excise duty and one per cent cut in general sales tax.

    APMA chairman Mohammad Sabir Shaikh expressed surprise over the thinking of the bureaucracy which seems influenced by the PAMA and one of its leading members for fixing higher value of bikes on which sizable number of population moves on.

    He said that the government is giving preference to the tractor and heavy vehicle parts for fixing their value at lower side despite knowing that their prices run into million of rupees instead of giving benefits to the low cost bikes which are available in few thousand of rupees.
    Irrespective of negative business environment, Pakistani bike makers are also making their presence in world markets felt through exports despite not getting the facility of $50 per bike.
    A bike maker said that most of the Pakistani made bike find their way into Afghanistan from April to October season and after snowfall from November to March the exports usually remain suspended to the neighboring country. He claimed that Chinese bike makers hold major share in exports of bikes.

    According to PAMA and some Chinese bike makers, the domestic bike industry has exported 10,500 units from April to July 2011 to different countries. After a steep drop in exports of around 135 percent from a peak of US $3.5 million in 2009-10, the high-quality and low-priced locally produced bikes have effectively checked imports.

    The industry exported in excess of 2,500 units per month which is against an average export of around 1,200 units per month last year. If the trend continues, Pakistan will easily be able to double its motorcycle exports this year.
    Motorcycle exports stood at $786,310 in the year 2009-10 and surged to $3.5 million in the next year on the strength of $50 per unit Research and Development facility provided by the Government. The facility was withdrawn in 2010-11 after which the exports nosedived by 135 percent to $1.34 million.

    “The decline in exports would have been much higher but the prudent marketing strategy adopted by large motorcycle players controlled it”, said Mr. Fahad Iqbal CEO, HKF Engineering, makers of Ravi motorcycles. He said that the exports of motorcycles averaged over 2,500 units during the last four months which is a good sign for the industry. This, he added, is double the monthly export of 1,200 units in 2009-10 when record exports were witnessed. He said that the trend is expected to continue and Pakistan will easily be able to double its motorcycle exports this year.

    Exports from Pakistan are textile dependent for the most part. Motorcycle industry provides a viable option as the next emerging export from Pakistan. “The industry is aiming to export half a million units annually by the year 2016” a bike maker said.
    Experts pleaded that the current policy regarding motorcycles should not be disturbed as with its huge forward and backward linkages, the motorcycle industry moves the wheel of the economy.

    “Most serious threat to this industry is a sudden policy shift, and threats for that are abundant now a day”, a bike maker said. “Talks of commercial imports of motorcycles and change in tariff to suit a certain entity will wreck havoc on this industry,” he added while demanding the government not to disturb the growth momentum of most localized engineering industry in Pakistan.

    The on going floods and heavy rains in Sindh is likely to adversely affect the sales of leading bike makers who enjoy over 50 per cent share of their total sale in rural areas. A lot depends on farmers and growers farm income from various crops in other provinces of Pakistan this year which will definitely nullify the bad sales prospects in Sindh.
    The maker of Honda bikes has already seen sharp jump in sales during July-August 2011 to 102,196 units from 85,176 units in the same period of last year. Suzuki bike sales reached to 3,722 units from 2,955 units. However, sale of Yamaha bike fell to 16,585 units from 20,247 units in July-August 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAIFARAIN View Post
    i inspired on the pak wheel forums and purchase gs 150.... but waqai bakwas hai.... gs 150 koi c bike aap chaltay hoye back se examin kr lo us ka wheel out chalta hai ,, lehra lehra ke...chain sporket me bohat problem hai her 150 me clucth choro to khat ki awaz aati hai,,, ,,, rear tyre always out,,, breaks na honay k barabar,,,,paint quality ek dam ghatya ,,, etc etc etc etc etc
    Agreed with the paint quality and breaks thing... the bike with that much weight should have disk breaks in it... but these dumb company owners know nothing about that...

    Regarding real wheel... try putting Honda Deluxe RIM and TYRE in it... it will surely give you pleasure, road grip and stability...

    And as for the sprocket... i think it must be something with the fitting problem with it... must get it checked from the mechanic...

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    I agreed
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    dear,
    I have joined this site yesterday and today I came to know about this Organization and appreciate this effort. Furthermore, I would like to start a debate on the same kind of issues.
    My concern is which manufacturer is better (amongst unbranded and branded both) with some other concerns, like quality of after sales service, availability of parts (ease, quality and price). Use of vehicle in bad areas lead to snatching and destruction of vehicle this matter lead to Insurance Issues. One cant get insurance of a HONDA bike in Karachi and even if it is insured succession of Claim is very much difficult. and these kind of issues force an average buyer to look toward CHINA made or Pak assembled China part bikes.

    I believe I have given ample amount of thought to think more about it.

    So please contribute.

    Thanks and regard

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    Dear I have heard some other problems with this bike but ones you have reported I have never heard, I know many happy users of GS150, I myself also like to buy this bike (2008-2010 model 2nd Hand). Yes i agree there should be disc brakes but it would cost more than 100,000.00 than and than no one would buy it. These are considerations upon which one goes for SUZUKI instead of HONDA apart from snatching and steeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana2107 View Post
    dear,
    I have joined this site yesterday and today I came to know about this Organization and appreciate this effort. Furthermore, I would like to start a debate on the same kind of issues.
    My concern is which manufacturer is better (amongst unbranded and branded both) with some other concerns, like quality of after sales service, availability of parts (ease, quality and price). Use of vehicle in bad areas lead to snatching and destruction of vehicle this matter lead to Insurance Issues. One cant get insurance of a HONDA bike in Karachi and even if it is insured succession of Claim is very much difficult. and these kind of issues force an average buyer to look toward CHINA made or Pak assembled China part bikes.

    I believe I have given ample amount of thought to think more about it.

    So please contribute.

    Thanks and regard
    Buddy you are mistaken.. This organization do nothing except planning trips and meeting with stake holders of the country.. Thats It.. Many years passed no one has seen any milestone achieved

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    [QUOTE=malikg115;1966422]SUB: PAKISTANI RIDERS / BIKERS/ MOTORCYCLISTS WELFARE TEHREEK

    (remaining part of original has been ommitted to simplify)

    This kind of effort is really appreciable in all respects.

    I agree to the cause and want the same for a better tomorrow.
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    I would like to join PBC / Riders Club pl send other details how to join on my e-mail.
    Pressure Group 4 Welfare of Motorcycling in Pakistan - 2645 Pressure Group 4 Welfare of Motorcycling in Pakistan sig malik zahid
    With best regards



    Sincerely





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    Quote Originally Posted by malikg115 View Post
    if MOTORCYCLISTS / RIDERS / BIKERS, who are into biking in any way or have been involved, want to join us, just write:

    I AGREE
    MR. X,Y,Z
    ID: ABC,
    CELL: 1111111111111
    E-MAIL:eeeeeeeeeee

    and plz, no irrelevant replies
    I AGREE
    Syed Zillay Ali
    ID: blackzero_01,
    CELL: 03214356806
    E-MAIL:zilleali@gmail.com

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