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    Cool Bike: High Beam Along with Low Beam

    Salaam,

    People here is the scenario..

    i Recently bought a Bulb for my CDi 70 Bike (HID BULB) *its not real hid*

    So Basically the Bulb has two Parts One Blue and one Yellow

    Yellow is for Low Beam
    Blue is For High Beam

    So the thing is When im riding my bike and i switch from low beam to high beam the yellow bulbs turns off and blue turns on. what i want to do is when i Switch from Low To High Beam i want Both Bulbs to stay on in high beam just like cars....

    If anyone can help me out on this... would be great!..

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    Which bike u are using ?

    If ur bikes head light is operating on battery which is the case with bikes having self starter only than u can have this done but it wud create extra load on alternator & rectifier & may damage them.

    In common bikes Head light opeartes directly with alternator in that case if u light up both beams simultaneously than light will got dim & alternator still remain at stake as in previuos case.
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    i think he is talking abt 70 cc ,so best chance is to install a little bit bigger battery and operate ur bulb directly frm battery through relay ,also ur high beam wiring needs to be modified to operate both points simultaneously ,contact some good electrician and sure he will do that job
    but still as imran said there will be extra load on ur generator coil so risk is there

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    I also want to do a similar thing.

    there are three wires.
    one for each beam and one ground.

    If I detach one wire from the source and attach it to the other beam only one lights up.

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    I opened the switch assembly and soldered two joints by trail and error and voila both beams work at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
    I also want to do a similar thing.

    there are three wires.
    one for each beam and one ground.

    If I detach one wire from the source and attach it to the other beam only one lights up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aqibracer View Post
    Salaam,

    People here is the scenario..

    i Recently bought a Bulb for my CDi 70 Bike (HID BULB) *its not real hid*

    So Basically the Bulb has two Parts One Blue and one Yellow

    Yellow is for Low Beam
    Blue is For High Beam

    So the thing is When im riding my bike and i switch from low beam to high beam the yellow bulbs turns off and blue turns on. what i want to do is when i Switch from Low To High Beam i want Both Bulbs to stay on in high beam just like cars....

    If anyone can help me out on this... would be great!..

    Thanks!
    so simple........!
    i made a diagram for u . i hope u will better understand from it..........
    as shown in diagram (figure 2) conect a wire from high beam wire to the low beam wire of bulb.... when u will turn on ur high beam then current will also flow through red wire to low beam of bulb and it will glow.....
    Bike: High Beam Along with Low Beam - 386987d1332788174 bike high beam along low beam gohar?stc1

    .


    but use the diode in red wire as shown. it will prent high beam to glow when only low beam is on and it will help to glow(on) low beam when high beam is on.
    .
    if u dont know about diode.then see the following links it will help u to understant diodes....
    Diode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Diodes

    simple just go to the electronic market and ask them to give u diode 1N4001 ..... 1n4001 is modal name of diode... and connect it as i shoown in diagram your work will be done.......!
    physical shape with symbol is shown in diagram below.

    Bike High Beam Along with Low Beam -386988
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    but the up given procedure is for those headlights which are driven from battery(DC source).(like in car's and some bikes).... otherwise it is not suitable with those bike which head light are driven with direct generator;s(or AC source) output....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine View Post
    so simple........!
    i made a diagram for u . i hope u will better understand from it..........
    as shown in diagram (figure 2) conect a wire from high beam wire to the low beam wire of bulb.... when u will turn on ur high beam then current will also flow through red wire to low beam of bulb and it will glow.....
    Bike: High Beam Along with Low Beam - 386987
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    but use the diode in red wire as shown. it will prent high beam to glow when only low beam is on and it will help to glow(on) low beam when high beam is on.
    .
    if u dont know about diode.then see the following links it will help u to understant diodes....
    Diode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Diodes

    simple just go to the electronic market and ask them to give u diode 1N4001 ..... 1n4001 is modal name of diode... and connect it as i shoown in diagram your work will be done.......!
    physical shape with symbol is shown in diagram below.

    Bike: High Beam Along with Low Beam - 386988
    awesome idea,, awesome illustration..
    hats off to you bro..

    @op,, connect it inside the headlamp assembly,,and use wiring insulation,, to co vver it and its connctions..
    do post the results,,and how it performs,,how is quantity/brightness of light affected,,

    diode cannot be used in either direction,, it has two terminals(or connection points) .. the side with little white strip is cathode... make sure this side connects with the low beam wire,, and the other side with high beam...

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    Your saying wrong stuff!!

    if you join the two wires, which I tried, only one lights up. i.e The beam which requires lower current.

    And there is no use of diode as the current is AC not DC.
    I checked it with my digital multimeter!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
    Your saying wrong stuff!!

    if you join the two wires, which I tried, only one lights up. i.e The beam which requires lower current.

    And there is no use of diode as the current is AC not DC.
    I checked it with my digital multimeter!!
    yes bro this type of modification can not be done in bikes who's head light are driven from direct generator(ac source) this is only suitable in those whose head light are driven with battery power(dc source)...
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    and 2nd u said joining 2 wire... only one light up... then u would be joining wrong wires...!.
    if u take connection in parallel then both beam would get on... it doesn't matter if 1 beam gets more current and 2nd less.... both will become on at same time but light intensity of both beam will different according to its construction...
    simple example of this is HOME.
    at home all the connections are taken in parallel (eg TV, bulbs, fans)... but it never happen if we on the "TV" then "fan" get's off and when we on "bulb" of 1 room then other room's "bulb" get off......(yes it is possible when load become more then fan become slow and light become dim....)
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    i thought the headlamp requires dc or runs on dc ..?

    so it runs on ac?

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    I have studied some electronics in my physics.
    And I know that when you wire different LEDs in parallel only the one that requires less power/current lights. Others stay off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
    I have studied some electronics in my physics.
    And I know that when you wire different LEDs in parallel only the one that requires less power/current lights. Others stay off.
    but sorry to say bro..... your concept is not clear........!
    1:when led's are connected in parallel then which led require less power(or we can say low resistance) will glow more then other but at the same time other led;s will also glow....intensity between them would be different...
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    but their is a great difference between LED'S and ordinary bulbs....!
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    thats why i given the example of home that when low power energy saver is on but fan does not stop...!..... while all the connections are in parallel.....
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    as i am student of electronics so (current, voltages, active ,passive components are our basic toys)thats why i know these things.........!
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    Quote Originally Posted by asjdsm View Post
    i thought the headlamp requires dc or runs on dc ..?

    so it runs on ac?
    yes and another circuit for (AC) light bikes.............
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    This circuit is for those bikes who's head light are driven by direct generator current(AC current....... but for this a little circuit is needed as shown in diagram..... (this is rectifire circuit which operate relay)..
    Bike High Beam Along with Low Beam -387388

    according to this circuit when u will on low beam then only low beam will becom on and high beam will remain off.... but when u on high beam then the both low and high beam will be on at same time....(according to the requirement of user)
    .
    the diagram of (rectifire circuit with relay ) is shown...
    Bike High Beam Along with Low Beam -387389


    WORKING PRINCIPAL.
    when u on high beam the current enter in to the (rectifire circuit) and ON the relay and so current flow through relay to low beam and it also become on at same time.......

    how it will feels.... when both (low and high beam) are on......
    to understand a simple example of brake light can be considered.... while driving at night when parking light(back read light/brake light) is on and its intensity is less because only 1 beam is on..... but as soon as we push the brake padel the intensity of light become more because 2nd beam of (brake light) become on...........
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    easiest way (no electronics)........!

    so here is the easiest way to do this...............
    as shown in diagram just short(join) the phase of generator with low beam of head light permanently......now when u will switch on the head light.... if u switch to low beam then only low beam will on and high beam will remain off.... and u switch to high beam then low beam will also on along with high beam....
    Working Principal:
    when u on low beam current will only flow through low beam wire and so only low beam will on... but when u switch to high beam the low beam will also on with high beam because (we short the phase of (bike generator) with low beam wire) current will also flow through short path(red wire) and will on low beam as shown in diagram.
    Bike High Beam Along with Low Beam -387601


    Practical Work:
    to do this practical just open the switch mecanism located on right side of handle bar of bike........ short(join) the phase of generator with low beam wire permanently with a small piece of wire..... and work is done.........!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine View Post
    so simple........!
    i made a diagram for u . i hope u will better understand from it..........
    as shown in diagram (figure 2) conect a wire from high beam wire to the low beam wire of bulb.... when u will turn on ur high beam then current will also flow through red wire to low beam of bulb and it will glow.....
    Bike: High Beam Along with Low Beam - 386987d1332788174 bike high beam along low beam gohar?stc1

    .


    but use the diode in red wire as shown. it will prent high beam to glow when only low beam is on and it will help to glow(on) low beam when high beam is on.
    .
    if u dont know about diode.then see the following links it will help u to understant diodes....
    Diode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Diodes

    simple just go to the electronic market and ask them to give u diode 1N4001 ..... 1n4001 is modal name of diode... and connect it as i shoown in diagram your work will be done.......!
    physical shape with symbol is shown in diagram below.

    Bike: High Beam Along with Low Beam - 386988
    .
    but the up given procedure is for those headlights which are driven from battery(DC source).(like in car's and some bikes).... otherwise it is not suitable with those bike which head light are driven with direct generator;s(or AC source) output....
    Bike High Beam Along with Low Beam -388962
    Same $hit, different day.

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    but there are three wires on the switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
    but there are three wires on the switch.
    yes............!
    (1st) from source.... (2nd) and (3rd) of high and low beam.............
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