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    Default Foreigner wants to buy motorbike...

    Hi everybody!

    I'm from France, and plan to visit Pakistan next month with motorbike.

    So I'd like to ask you some questions

    - is it possible for foreigners to buy 'legally' used or new motorbike (150-200cc)

    - which papers are requesting to drive motorbike in Pakistan?

    - will it be easy for me to find bike in Karachi/islamabad or Lahore?

    thank you very much

    Best regards

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    1. Yes you can.

    2. You just need a valid driving license & registration documents of the motorcycle

    3. That depends, what type of motorcycle are you looking for? We have lots of locally manufactured one's which are cheap & imported one's which cost a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    Hi everybody!

    I'm from France, and plan to visit Pakistan next month with motorbike.

    So I'd like to ask you some questions

    - is it possible for foreigners to buy 'legally' used or new motorbike (150-200cc)

    - which papers are requesting to drive motorbike in Pakistan?

    - will it be easy for me to find bike in Karachi/islamabad or Lahore?

    thank you very much

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    it is possible for anyone to buy anything in this country...

    there are two main types of papers required, US dollar and Pak ruppees...

    no one checks for licenses etc...We have driven all our lives without licenses lol....so relax.

    very easy...

    make sure you have around 2000-4000USD. That is what it takes to buy a used 250cc bike in excellent condition and recent make.

    on serious note, you should have identification papers (passport, ID card, etc) thats all thats needed....

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    thank you, i'm happy to read your answers

    it seems to be more easy than i was thinking!

    tomorrow, i'll go to pakistan ambassy in paris to get my visa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    thank you, i'm happy to read your answers

    it seems to be more easy than i was thinking!

    tomorrow, i'll go to pakistan ambassy in paris to get my visa!

    You are Most Welcome in Pakistan :-)

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    The Police in Islamabad, ITP, Islamabad Traffic Police is very well trained and organized. I am a Pakistani American, and I visit Pakistan occasionally and drive there as well.

    ITP, is very strict, and can pull over a driver violating laws, including seatbelt violations, speeding, breaking redlight, etc. They are comparable to European Police. Also Pakistani Motorway Police is at par with International European/American Police standards. They are well equipped and have latest Radars, Police Cruisers (sometimes better than American Police), I have seen Toyota Landcruiser Police Cruisers being used by Pakistani Motorway Police. I am not Joking. Also Islamabad, Traffic Police has Latest Police Cruisers and they can chase you effectively, if they suspect any traffic violations.

    So, make sure you have an International Drivers License, or if you are a visitor atleast have your French License, and all proper Passport, ID's etc.

    The police in other areas of Pakistan, i.e. Karachi, Lahore, not too sure about, but they are relatively easy going.

    Best of Luck in Pakistan.

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    Also,

    Driving in Islamabad, and on Motorway between Lahore - Islamabad - Peshawar, etc. is relatively well organized and most people do obey traffic laws. But once you are outside of Islamabad, the traffic becomes very chaotic and extremely hard for an outsider to drive a car, motorbikes are even more difficult to maneuver in that sort of traffic. Don't want to scare you, just laying out the facts, as I am used to American Driving conditions which is very systematic and well organized, similar to Europe but in Pakistan, I have a very hard time driving in Pakistan, as do many people that have lived outside of Pakistan and occasionally go back to their homecountry once in a while, most prefer not to drive on their own, but "hire" a driver to drive them around, for only $100 a month.

    At first you would need to take cabs, etc. to make your way around. Rememebr, you have to share the road with not only Buses, Trucks, Minibuses, but also thousands of motorbikes, rickshaws, and even animal pulled carts, bicycles etc. It can be very chaotic at first, specially for a foreigner.

    So, be very careful, and observe the traffic pattern, before attempting to ride a motorbike. It can be very hard, specially outside of Islamabad, to even ride a bike, you have to be constantly vigilant for others mistakes, Bus and Truck Drivers are notorious, and they usually do NOT see, motorbikes, so you have to watch out for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    Hi everybody!

    I'm from France, and plan to visit Pakistan next month with motorbike.

    So I'd like to ask you some questions

    - is it possible for foreigners to buy 'legally' used or new motorbike (150-200cc)

    - which papers are requesting to drive motorbike in Pakistan?

    - will it be easy for me to find bike in Karachi/islamabad or Lahore?

    thank you very much

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    dear Ro Ro,

    First of all you are very welcome to come to Pakistan, I am sorry that few of my friends' painted a picture of Non existence of LAW in the country which is not true.The fact is that local people know their way round it.

    I would suggest do no travel without complete documents you should have a valid international driving licence and a French Passport with a valid visa. Before you come you may ask Pakistan Embassy in franc about buying a bike .I think buying will not be an issue but getting it registered in your name may be. If you have any fried or relative in Pakistan you can have it registered in his name easily and get an authorisation letter in your name

    This is very important for your own safety. do no take any ill advise and take any risk doing things illegally, You are visiting Pakistan to enjoy, do not get into trouble if you can avoid it. As a foreigner if you get c aught, this could be a big problem and may ruin your vacation.

    Take care

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    Hi everybody!

    I'm from France, and plan to visit Pakistan next month with motorbike.

    So I'd like to ask you some questions

    - is it possible for foreigners to buy 'legally' used or new motorbike (150-200cc)

    - which papers are requesting to drive motorbike in Pakistan?

    - will it be easy for me to find bike in Karachi/islamabad or Lahore?

    thank you very much

    Best regards
    you need to obtain an NOC as Tourist to travel by road in Pakistan in a local tourist bus or intercity bus at snap check point you need to show the Passport plus NOC from Interior Ministry - Pakistan clearly stating purpose of your road travel in a public transport. (period)

    as a visitor on tourist or a business visa you can not own a vehicle or a rent property. If you are under a work visa on a contract with a local or foreign company they can own the vehicle. With a local licence you can drive that car / bike with company ID always with you. However under all lawful conditions as a foreign national you need to have an NOC to travel by road outside 55KM radius of your work / residence area.

    All other GIMMICKS to twist arm of law will lead you into DEEP SS-hit and immediate expulsion from the country

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    Hi everybody, thank's a lot for your answers!

    I can't find any informations with google, that's why i'm here with you, and i think it will be very useful for me!

    I never been to Pakistan but i travelled many times in india with motorbike.

    My first experience was 6 years ago (i was 20 - probably travel of my life) when I bought 350cc enfield in Delhi with the intention to cross Pakistan-Iran-Turquie and Europe to go to France.
    Unfortunetely, because i was foreigner everything was difficult. i couldn't have all the necessary bike's documents (i think papers was fake...) to cross border and was force to stay in India. So I rode 2 months there, then i sent my bike home by boat.
    During this trip, I "felt in love" with that way of travel and almost every years i go back to india, rent a motorbike and discover new parts of the country.

    This summer i want to visit north of Pakistan (6 years after the first attempt).
    For this trip, I do want to be in legality! Because, i'm travelling alone, I don't want any problem and i want to take a lot's of advantage of my holidays!

    I understand that the problem seems to be the same that i had in india. I can't have a bike with papers at my name and i think it will be very difficult for me to do all the administrative procedure, alone in a unknown country.

    After reading you, I think i can't buy new bike, but maybe i can buy second hand bike and keep the owner registration papers if he writes a letter saying that he lends me the bike. At the end of my trip i can sell him back the bike at good price or leave the bike somewhere...
    Could it be legal for me to ride with lending bike?

    Concerning the NOC, how can I obtain such a thing?

    I don't want to loose my time and my energy (especially for impossible things ) when I will arrive in Pakistan, that's why i need to prepare the best I can this travel.


    thank you again for your help



    (and sorry if my english hurts you..)

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    Your english, pas mal de tout! Je parle un petit peu de francais aussi!

    Anyway it won't be hard to arrange everything. When are you supposed to arrive? I live in islamabad & am also a big fan of bikes. We also travel up north a lot, it's a great way to explore a country!

    I can help you out when you get here, from finding a bike to getting all the documents etc. I will p.m you my email address. Will be here to help you out in your journey as we always look out for fellow bikers!

    Bon voyage, mon amis!

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    Which city will you be heading to first? Make friends online PakWheels from those and get them to go along with you at the time of purchase. I got no idea about bikes but can find out. 03215016157 is my local number. Save it and get in touch whenever feasible and in advance, Welcome to Pakistan!

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    just to add,make sure u have some local with u so that the guy dsnt rip u off
    Quote Originally Posted by BackToCivicFaiez View Post
    it is possible for anyone to buy anything in this country...

    there are two main types of papers required, US dollar and Pak ruppees...

    no one checks for licenses etc...We have driven all our lives without licenses lol....so relax.

    very easy...

    make sure you have around 2000-4000USD. That is what it takes to buy a used 250cc bike in excellent condition and recent make.

    on serious note, you should have identification papers (passport, ID card, etc) thats all thats needed....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKTUN View Post
    you need to obtain an NOC as Tourist to travel by road in Pakistan in a local tourist bus or intercity bus at snap check point you need to show the Passport plus NOC from Interior Ministry - Pakistan clearly stating purpose of your road travel in a public transport. (period)

    as a visitor on tourist or a business visa you can not own a vehicle or a rent property. If you are under a work visa on a contract with a local or foreign company they can own the vehicle. With a local licence you can drive that car / bike with company ID always with you. However under all lawful conditions as a foreign national you need to have an NOC to travel by road outside 55KM radius of your work / residence area.

    All other GIMMICKS to twist arm of law will lead you into DEEP SS-hit and immediate expulsion from the country
    Quote Originally Posted by Getafix View Post
    Your english, pas mal de tout! Je parle un petit peu de francais aussi!

    Anyway it won't be hard to arrange everything. When are you supposed to arrive? I live in islamabad & am also a big fan of bikes. We also travel up north a lot, it's a great way to explore a country!

    I can help you out when you get here, from finding a bike to getting all the documents etc. I will p.m you my email address. Will be here to help you out in your journey as we always look out for fellow bikers!

    Bon voyage, mon amis!
    @RoRo - pay attention to PKTUN he is very right

    coordinate with Getafix and adjust your travel timings & plan with them. It will be best to avoid trouble of being alone
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    NOC= no objection certificate.

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