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    sub se pehle assalam o alykum tamam bhiyon ko , arz hai k mujhe 100cc bike k leay mashwara chaheay , wesy to yeh topic forum main pehly discuss ho chuka hai ,lakin mujhe phir b mashwara chaheay k is waqat 100cc ki catagery main konsi bike sub se best hai jis ki patrol everage b best ho aur paidar b ho, aur parts b aasani se mill jate hon,aur costely kum hon ,main new bike kharedana chahta hon is se pehly main 12 saal se 70cc bike chala raha hon mujhe 100 cc ka koi expereance nhi hai zara b nhi , aur main gujrat main rehta hon

    1 ................ honda 100cc
    2 ................ yamaha janooncc
    3 ................ suzuki sprinter 110cc new model lanch


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    walakum assalam

    1 - All these bikes have relatively costly spare parts if you are comparing it with CD 70 or CG 125 because those bikes are used by larger masses in Pakistan (So this point is to be analyzed better by your self ).

    2 - If you are planning to stay a little ahead in power SD 110 / sprinter / raider is bit ahead (personally used for 6~8 months), beside it is largely used in motor-rickshaw these days because it is powerful bike in 100cc category, and has achieved a repo and a gud resale becuase of that.m beside most rikhshaw drivers changed there orignal butterfly throttle to CD 70 carburator and after this change this bike gives eqaul economy to CD 70 with power as a PLUS.

    3- Yamaha Junoon, I have not used it but I can share what I heard, spares are expensive specially the body and stylish parts, gud power, very good economy and a yamaha proven relaible engine with a japanese Carb. a perfect daily runner for a Single rider, time tested machine, not very good choice for overloading.

    4 - CD hundered has launched its new 2012 model with really cool graphics and it also have a averagely good economy, but frankly just look at it and it gives you a feel of "baba gee ki motorcycle" its classic styled and fat feul tank and even the back light resembles the 1990s cd 70 back light... plus it is strongly heard that initially it had some technical issues which Honda recovered or may be people learned how to live with it , but before making decision do get some opinion from the local mechanic... because it has almost no resale .. yes you heard me right no at all.. mechanics dont like it and I dont know the reason at all... Even I like it , it is a Very good daily runner in my office i see a couple of them parked along others but I dont know why it has no resale just like Suzuki GS-150.


    Hope it helps, Keep hunting!


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    sub se pehle assalam o alykum tamam bhiyon ko , arz hai k mujhe 100cc bike k leay mashwara chaheay , wesy to yeh topic forum main pehly discuss ho chuka hai ,lakin mujhe phir b mashwara chaheay k is waqat 100cc ki catagery main konsi bike sub se best hai jis ki patrol everage b best ho aur paidar b ho, aur parts b aasani se mill jate hon,aur costely kum hon ,main new bike kharedana chahta hon is se pehly main 12 saal se 70cc bike chala raha hon mujhe 100 cc ka koi expereance nhi hai zara b nhi , aur main gujrat main rehta hon

    1 ................ honda 100cc
    2 ................ yamaha janooncc
    3 ................ suzuki sprinter 110cc new model lanch
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    Cd 100 is suggested, in all the listed options its most well built in quality and durability.
    Junoon and sprinter/raider will have quality control issues although these offer more features/power in the same price.

    I will suggest Honda 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    Junoon is a good combination of Style, Power, comfort and mileage. A very good package overall, and yes you may face small quality control issues but you can clear them up within your warranty.
    bhi jaan main ne suna hai k junoon ab china manufacture hai aur is ki quality b ab wo nhi aa rehi jo dyl se pehly thi

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseer_jaan View Post
    bhi jaan main ne suna hai k junoon ab china manufacture hai aur is ki quality b ab wo nhi aa rehi jo dyl se pehly thi
    Sahi suna hai apne.. agreements phele bhi expire hogai ven thein.. thats why DYL musalsal quality down kara tha, kharab bikes showroom bhejra tha without proper inspection., Now iska license bhi expire hogya hai and zardari sab commission bhi mang rae hen.. and Kuch Yamaha walay bhi bht e heavy duty fee mang rae hen to renew the license because they have serious plans to promote business in Pakistan so usi ko license den gy jo sound party ho...

    Aur DYL k seth sab k pas its paisa nai hai.. so its DYL now.. not Yamaha.

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    Junoon is a good combination of Style, Power, comfort and mileage. A very good package overall, and yes you may face small quality control issues but you can clear them up within your warranty.

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    junoon is now china maal..
    forget it for its exhorbitant price... iss ki pahlay itni khas resale nahi thi.. ab tho our bhi gar jani ha... they are virtualy ra#ing ppl for charging this for 78k .. just buy CD100 or suzuki..
    suzuki ka engine a1 hotha ha.. and economy bhi theek thak daitha hain...
    honda cd 100 bhi nice bhike ha.. bhoth maza atha ha chalana ma .. parts a1 hain.. par spare bhoth mahnga hain.. luckily those spares dont need frequent change...

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    From what i have heard, Junoon pehlay bhi DYL ka hi product tha , just Yamaha ka logo laga howa tha, it wasn't a Yamaha Japan product.
    Aur ab licence expire ho gaya hai to DYL can't paste Yamaha on it anymore, otherwise it is the same product as before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    From what i have heard, Junoon pehlay bhi DYL ka hi product tha , just Yamaha ka logo laga howa tha, it wasn't a Yamaha Japan product.
    Aur ab licence expire ho gaya hai to DYL can't paste Yamaha on it anymore, otherwise it is the same product as before...
    yamaha ka badge aisa nai lag jatha .. agar aisa hotha tho har koi yamaha honda suzuki bmw ka badge laga laitha.. yamaha badge tab hi lagtha ha jab wo yamaha ka standard ka ho... yamaha badge was a guarantee that it is yamaha product ...
    now with the contract b/w both gone.. dyl is free to use what it wants in its product.. earlier it could not use a single component without yamaha japan consent.. ab dyl ki marzi ha jo cheez jis grade ki chaha laga lay.. its upto them to decide quality.. when there was yamaha logo on it yamaha was supplying parts or was making arrangment for them .. after contract gone yama dont sell to them.. they now use chinese replicas .. so its not the same quality as it was..

    welcome to type 100cc cHonda..

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    Quote Originally Posted by asjdsm View Post
    yamaha ka badge aisa nai lag jatha .. agar aisa hotha tho har koi yamaha honda suzuki bmw ka badge laga laitha.. yamaha badge tab hi lagtha ha jab wo yamaha ka standard ka ho... yamaha badge was a guarantee that it is yamaha product ...
    now with the contract b/w both gone.. dyl is free to use what it wants in its product.. earlier it could not use a single component without yamaha japan consent.. ab dyl ki marzi ha jo cheez jis grade ki chaha laga lay.. its upto them to decide quality.. when there was yamaha logo on it yamaha was supplying parts or was making arrangment for them .. after contract gone yama dont sell to them.. they now use chinese replicas .. so its not the same quality as it was..

    welcome to type 100cc cHonda..
    Good explanation.... thanks
    but call it a chonda or what... i wish someone post their reviews on DYL Junoon here.... so we may know the actual situation...
    This Eid i went back to bahawalpur, and saw many new DYL junoons on road.

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    ^^ Its still not totally crap or low quality as a chonda, but since now they dont have to comply with any set standards, now they may chose any vendor for supplying any quality parts which fit in their financials...

    For having yamaha/honda or any other badge, u have to make a product of good enough quality..

    Example: Honda japan warned Atlas Honda Pakistan that if they wont put Air bags in their Honda CITY car, their license will be terminated, so now Atlas Honda is bound to work for obtaining technology, skill, machinery to install that equipment and make it a standard feature in its cars

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    as it was yamaha prodocut and dyl was not making 100% of it locally but a huge percentage of its parts were made locally. also keeping mind the fact that due to chinese advances in technology and science and manafacturing some items that were just made by jap/euro/amrikans are now made by china which are either same quality or surpass that 30-40 year old japs.. so i think that the qualit wont be that much worse.. or it may have improved or may be same.. i think if quality should be same but if there ie degradation then it would be 19/20 difference..

    ya much eager to hear from those who use it.. and even more interested in long term usage of it..

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    My info is pretty authentic..
    Up to my Info best DYL products were till 2003.. after that another low maintained till 2007 and then now its falling to super low year by year...

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    ^^ it seems both of us were typing same thing at the same time ,,,, isnt it ?

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    Yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by asjdsm View Post
    also keeping mind the fact that due to chinese advances in technology and science and manafacturing some items that were just made by jap/euro/amrikans are now made by china which are either same quality or surpass that 30-40 year old japs...
    Have you seen japanese or italian bike in reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angeldust View Post
    Have you seen japanese or italian bike in reality?
    Vespa is a living example .. vespa rickshaw stil uses the 70's engine.... thats pure italian
    moreover my real point was/is that when they are under no obligation of yamaha they can use any type of parts.. that may be 3rd class item or a1.. and its not uncommon to find chinese parts of a1 quality as they make it according to customer demand..

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    Quote Originally Posted by asjdsm View Post
    junoon is now china maal..
    forget it for its exhorbitant price... iss ki pahlay itni khas resale nahi thi.. ab tho our bhi gar jani ha... they are virtualy ra#ing ppl for charging this for 78k .. just buy CD100 or suzuki..
    suzuki ka engine a1 hotha ha.. and economy bhi theek thak daitha hain...
    honda cd 100 bhi nice bhike ha.. bhoth maza atha ha chalana ma .. parts a1 hain.. par spare bhoth mahnga hain.. luckily those spares dont need frequent change...
    sub bhayon ka reply karny ka bohat bohat shukrya, bhi jaan main ne apny zehan se junoon nikal dya hai bhi jaan ab 2 bikes reh gai hain suzuki aur cd100 bhi jaan dono main quality kis bike ki best hai aur zayada derapa aur paider konsi bike hai agar main mukamal care karon to 5 saal tak konsi bike fit chale gi ???? bhi jaan aap sub ka mashwara chaheay

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    ^ honda cd100 and suzuki both are good quality bikes..
    honda has better resale compared to suzuki..also i think sprinter is discontinued and new model raider is launched .. so there are no reviews of that .. also suzuki spare parts are hell expensive compared to that oif cd100 .,,, and suzuki parts are difficult to fnd in small cities .. petrol avg of suzuki is better .. its speed and pick is lso good .. as its 110cc .. its engine is japenese .
    honda has also good engine .. parts are expensicve compared to 70cc or 125 and sometime difficult o obtain.. avg is good but notr better then suziki as per revievs on this site...
    if u take good care of bike ...i.e change engine oil and filter timely and use original plug .. u can be sue to get 60-75k kms from either bike .. before the need to overhaul ..

    jab engine overhaul hgoga tho suzuki will cost 2-3 times compared to cd100..

    agay khud hi decde kar lo...

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    after hearing all the pros and cons ... dont just make a straight away decision, and visit all three bike in the show room start them and even if get a chance do ride them raider / sprinter apni accelration say apko impress keray gee ... Junnooon apni looks say ... or CD hundred apni "Honda" ki paidari say ..... so I would suggest give a visit to all three of them, it will ease your decsion...
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