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    Asalamoalium fellow PW members..

    Tomorrow inshallah i am going for first tune up of my bike..If some fellow bro can shed light on which processes are carried on in a bike's tune up..


    Also there are some things i want to confirm in advance

    Should i get my Petrol Screen cleaned?
    Should i get my Valve clearance checked?
    Oil filer screen cleanup?
    Engine idle speed?
    AIr cleaner?Clean or replace?
    Drive chain lubrication?Which oil do service centres normally lubricate with?
    Break/clutch wires lubrication?
    Brake system?
    Nut bolts tightening?
    Clutch system?

    Not gonna get carby opened

    Taking my bike to my anteena dealer..Hope they dont mess up the great factory settings,really stock tuneup is da best


    I have bought a caltex Havoline 1 liter pack..from F6 islamabad due to the fake oil frenzy from local shops..It is api sg-20w50 but i see no JASO MA specs weird..It looks more of an auto engine top up oil..Change oil at 300Kms first nMotorcycle first TuningSome queries -1056789Motorcycle first TuningSome queries -1056803ow on 980 Kms though i thought of changing at 800 but i thought if the open the crank case for oil filter cleaning they will have to relube the engine so i put it on halt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilskreed View Post
    Asalamoalium fellow PW members..

    Tomorrow inshallah i am going for first tune up of my bike..If some fellow bro can shed light on which processes are carried on in a bike's tune up..


    Also there are some things i want to confirm in advance

    Should i get my Petrol Screen cleaned?
    Should i get my Valve clearance checked?
    Oil filer screen cleanup?
    Engine idle speed?
    AIr cleaner?Clean or replace?
    Drive chain lubrication?Which oil do service centres normally lubricate with?
    Break/clutch wires lubrication?
    Brake system?
    Nut bolts tightening?
    Clutch system?

    Not gonna get carby opened

    Taking my bike to my anteena dealer..Hope they dont mess up the great factory settings,really stock tuneup is da best


    I have bought a caltex Havoline 1 liter pack..from F6 islamabad due to the fake oil frenzy from local shops..It is api sg-20w50 but i see no JASO MA specs weird..It looks more of an auto engine top up oil..Change oil at 300Kms first nMotorcycle first TuningSome queries -1056789Motorcycle first TuningSome queries -1056803ow on 980 Kms though i thought of changing at 800 but i thought if the open the crank case for oil filter cleaning they will have to relube the engine so i put it on halt.
    1. eng oil zaror change kero
    2. nuts & bolts zaror tight kerwaoo
    bus may itna he kahoon ga

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    Should i get my Petrol Screen cleaned?
    It's only the first tuning (no need)

    Should i get my Valve clearance checked?
    Yes, they would do it automatically without you telling them (tappet adjustment)

    Oil filer screen cleanup?
    if i am not mistaken you have to open the right crank case, drain the oil, remove the gasket and than you can remove the filter screen (not recommended for at least 10k kms at least)

    Engine idle speed?
    should be fine, about 1500RPM

    Air cleaner?Clean or replace?
    They would use compressed air for cleaning it (blower type). If you want to replace it, it's your choice.Shouldn't cost more than Rs60.

    Drive chain lubrication?Which oil do service centers normally lubricate with?
    Again part of tuning,(chain tightening). They use old engine oil

    Break/clutch wires lubrication?
    Standard procedure in tuning

    Brake system?
    Nut bolts tightening?

    Standard

    Note:Except Zic i haven't seen any with JASO-MA rating

    Clutch system?
    Clutch adjustment if freeplay is more.(Less freeplay=->better shifting)

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    Should i get my Valve clearance checked?
    Yes


    Oil filer screen cleanup?
    Cant understand this question.


    Engine idle speed?
    Yes.


    AIr cleaner?Clean or replace?
    Yes.


    Drive chain lubrication?Which oil do service centers normally lubricate with?
    Yes.


    Break/clutch wires lubrication?
    Yes.


    Brake system?
    Yes.


    Nut bolts tightening?
    Yes.


    Clutch system?
    Yes.


    Not gonna get carby opened?
    Better to get it opened you might see dust particles inside and this bike do not have Fuel filter (like in Piaggio and Gs150) which later become the cause of Missing due to bad petrol.

    All above things a sensible mechanic check his self without asking customer.
    31.5497 N, 74.3436 E

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    Check ur owners manual... everything is already mentioned there.

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    Got the bike tuned today..Its smoother now..I told the mechanic to use petrol from my fuel line for cleaning purposes instead of KALA USED MITI ka TAIL.Ghalti say bol dia Tank main kafi petrol hai..Bas phir to petrol ki shaamat ai..Daba daba kay petrol spray kia jnab nay ..Par cleaning was top notch..Changed my oil to caltex havoline 20w50..But the mechanic told me that company does not accommodate claims if the oil used is not genuine Honda's..Wether you use,ZIC,CALTEX,SHELL they wont process your claim...

    Anteena 5s shop

    I have an issue..The handles wobble for 1-2 seconds when the bike is idle..Wasnt happening before tuning,why is that?

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    asad mubarook you have discovered 1st panga in your bike now its a long way bro i did nt got what you meant by whobling...but do meet me at our meet next sunday.will solve your issue IA
    legend will revive soon

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    Wobling say murad handle thartharatay/girgiratay hain pehlay baray smooth thay....Idle speed par har 8-9 seconds baat handle 2 seconds kay liae girgiratay hain pata nai kis waja say..Bike is running smooth though..Haris bhai waisay baray arsay baad PW pay comment kia hai ..Garage ki masrofiat barh gain kya?

    Shayad nut/bolt tight hona ki waja say vibrations main izafa ho gya hai..Idk maybe

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    asad yar true i was v bizi in making new beast ....and yup after a long time at pw
    and yar its not a big problem do not worry
    legend will revive soon

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    my piaggio storm complete 300 km....so which engine oil do pw member recommend for piaggio........

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    Quote Originally Posted by atifkhail View Post
    my piaggio storm complete 300 km....so which engine oil do pw member recommend for piaggio........
    Caltex Havoline
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    If the mechanic is using old engine oil on your drive chain - remove the bike from his service, chain wax is supposed to be used, using old oil will wash out the grease from the rollers and eventually wear out your chain and sprockets

    The chain needs to be serviced and cleaned out every 10 or 15,000 kms of running. It is done in a bath of solvents and then dipped in some molten chain grease. The handle bar vibrations are due to idle speed too low or the handlebars are missing their counter weights - if they are installed by design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    If the mechanic is using old engine oil on your drive chain - remove the bike from his service, chain wax is supposed to be used, using old oil will wash out the grease from the rollers and eventually wear out your chain and sprockets

    The chain needs to be serviced and cleaned out every 10 or 15,000 kms of running. It is done in a bath of solvents and then dipped in some molten chain grease. The handle bar vibrations are due to idle speed too low or the handlebars are missing their counter weights - if they are installed by design.
    Bhai Chain Wax is hard to get and is super expensive..Manual recommends SAE 90 Gear oil as a suitable alternative..Is it ok to wash chain with petrol during tuning then relubing it with new engine oil?

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    yar i do the same .. wash with petrol to remove all the little debries accumulated on chain which acts as sand paper in itself ..

    i remove all those little particles clean it well shine it .. then dip it in used engine oil for few hours .. and then i remove it and use fesh new engine oil to lube it..

    its the least expensive way for me..

    and my chian has done more then 18k km so far .. janyan lasted only 12-14k km... when i left it at the helm of mechanics who would just pour used engine oil .. never cleaned that one ..

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    Already bought a quality SAE 90 Gear oil..Will lube chain after every 500Km intervals an during tuning i am thinking of making sure that the Chain is cleaned thoroughly with petrol then relubed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilskreed View Post
    Bhai Chain Wax is hard to get and is super expensive..Manual recommends SAE 90 Gear oil as a suitable alternative..Is it ok to wash chain with petrol during tuning then relubing it with new engine oil?
    SAE140 or 90 oil will also get flung off in speed, seen that - never works and makes the bike messy. chain wax in a can is good - When I was in Karachi I could easily buy it for Rs 300/can and it lasted me quite a while.
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    I will try to find one in pindi/Isb if someone can direct me to a retailer that would be awesome..Btw Xulfi bhai did you check your inbox?I sent you a message.Experties required in thread

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/oil...motorcycle-oil

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    Where can i get it in pindi/isb at the above mentioned rates?

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    check ryders.
    legend will revive soon

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