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    Dear Pakwheelers

    Assalamualaikum

    I m driving car from about last 20 yrs but now a days, its very difficult to drive at khi due to huge traffic jams, law order situation, parking, economy etc so i m planning to have a bike. However i m not a rider at a moment.

    i have gone through some of the pages at PW but not found relevant to me.

    definitely i will prefer Honda, but here situation is worst so my choices are either for Superpower or Unique (used).
    what i want to know is that: --

    - now from road grip point of view what is appropriate? 100cc or 70cc
    - difference between maintenance? 100cc or 70 cc
    - difference between consumption? 100cc or 70 cc
    - which one is reliable?
    - an idea about prices from 2010 to 12 models
    - best buying place, olx, pw or hadri bazaar?

    in addition i will be appreciating ur valuable advices

    Many thanks - TC


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    W/salam brother

    Welcome to Bikes Land!

    - now from road grip point of view what is appropriate?
    100cc

    - difference between maintenance?
    Difference is there though not too much but still 70cc parts are cheaper.

    - difference between consumption?
    100cc are doing almost equal/bit better then 70cc bikes like Suzuki Raider/Sprinter, Honda Pridor, DYL Junoon e.g.

    Fuel mileage depends on rider/riding/road/traffic/atmosphere situations too. Almost all 70 and 100cc bikes fuel mileage are around 50 to 60km and bit more.

    - which one is reliable?
    In my opinion nothing is 100% perfect/reliable it actually matters how much you care of your ride. Even you go for Sports bikes like 600/1000cc you have to take care of it.

    - best buying place, olx, pw or hadri bazaar?
    For new obviously a company showroom, for second hand bike which ever you like local market or online sites its up to you.

    - an idea about prices from 2010 to 12 models

    Following are the prices of brand new 2012 bikes:

    100cc

    Atlas Honda Pridor 100cc = 84,000/-
    http://www.atlashonda.com.pk/pridor.php

    Suzuki Raider 110cc = 85,400/-
    Suzuki Sprinter 110cc = 80,400/-
    http://www.paksuzuki.com.pk/Automobile/Pages/Home.aspx


    DYL Junoon 100cc = I guess it will around 80,000/-
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    ttp://dylmotorcycles.com/products/junoon/

    70cc

    They start from 37,000 to 70,000/-

    For more prices visit this link
    https://www.pakwheels.com/new-bikes/pricelist


    in addition i will be appreciating ur valuable advices

    *Avoid DYL Mini-100cc Khusra numa Khalaai Makhlooq at any cost.

    *Keep in mind one thing none of the above bikes are
    MADE IN JAPAN they are MADE IN PAKISTAN

    *In case If a salesman or dealer tells you SIR THIS IS 100% MADE IN JAPAN BIKE do not ever trust on his words, if possible slap right on his face for the white lie.

    *I am owner of 70cc bike with my overall experience I will suggest you avoid any 70cc bike spend bit more cash and get 100cc with free peace of mind, acceleration, comfort, road grip, good fuel consumption e.g.

    *Wait for more 100cc bike owners suggestion and opinions.

    *These are my opinions and suggestions, You or any other rider is free to agree/deny them.

    *Good Luck for the Bike Hunt!
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    Agreed with Justle Brother, 70cc aur 100cc bike ki inital cost aur maintainance cost mein thora sa he faraq hai par 100cc mein peace of mind zada hai aur spare parts almost sab bikde kay between 19 20 ka he faraq hota hai

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    @Juste

    Many thanks Dear for ur valuable and detailed response. Well now i will be searching for sp 100 or ud 100. and from olx and pw, their price is in between 30k to 40k.

    pls explain this:-
    *Avoid DYL Mini-100cc Khusra numa Khalaai Makhlooq at any cost.

    thanks again

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    it was a bike which was never been able to make it on roads as far as I understand...



    Quote Originally Posted by meniazijee View Post
    pls explain this:-
    *Avoid DYL Mini-100cc Khusra numa Khalaai Makhlooq at any cost.
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    what do safe guards in bikes(front n rare both)? and why people dont use them are they only for showsha

    100cc comes with safe guards???

    also any member advice the total cost of new 2013 sp100 and ud 100. thanks

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    sorry brother, but residence khi main aur bike new . . . . . . . ??? Kia ye khula tazaad nai ???

    ya tou phir bike purchase kartay hee waxing karwa laina uski, q k new bikes khi main not allowed hain.

    samajh tay tussi gaye ae ho.

    I'll advise you to go for 100cc Honda (used) due to following reasons:
    1) reliable
    2) easy availability of parts
    3) good from resale point of view
    4) mechanics available everywhere

    You have mentioned Haideri Bazaar, just want to add that most of the persons come there are dealers.
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    getting a 100cc is worth it, coz of comfortability, average fuel consumption and average power for long drives.
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    100cc bikes definately have an advantage over 70cc ones in terms of power, comfort and road grip.
    I would not recommend you to buy a chinese/local brand 100cc as its fuel economy would be a big question mark, as they use cheap quality carburettors.. hence my recommendation would be to choose between Honda CD100 or Suzuki sprinter/Sprinter Eco.. All 3 of these bikes are capable of giving 60+ Km/Ltr milage at a suitable driving style.

    Maintinence costs are higher for 100cc but a regularly maintained bike wont need much money, you just need to spend on Engine oil (might use a few 100Ml more than a 70cc), Air filter (might be expensive), Tunning, Brake shoes etc.

    My vote would go for Honda CD100, it is a nice comfortable bike with good milage, but God forbid if it goes through an accident the body parts will be expensive as well as the engine as compared to a 70cc bike.

    Bear in mnd that 100cc vs. 70cc per month fuel expense differnce is going to be barely a few 100Rs difference.
    Also note in case of overhaul with genuine parts, still the difference is going to be a few 1000s, not too much.

    Avoid brands like Yamaha Junoon in used as itys engine re-build costs somewhere close to a car's if required + its Filters are expensive too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meniazijee View Post
    @Juste

    Many thanks Dear for ur valuable and detailed response. Well now i will be searching for sp 100 or ud 100. and from olx and pw, their price is in between 30k to 40k.

    pls explain this:-
    *Avoid DYL Mini-100cc Khusra numa Khalaai Makhlooq at any cost.

    thanks again
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...yl-new-mini100

    Its a 70cc chasis witha 100cc engine, unstable, lacks road grip, vibrations are higher and brakes are poorer, its not a sensible bike.

    Just to add, Chinese 70ccs milage is max. 55Km/ltr 100cc milage would be worse, Sp100 or UD100 both. I dont recommend these.
    Consider Suzuki Sprinter ECO.. it would be great if u increase ur budget a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    it was a bike which was never been able to make it on roads as far as I understand...
    i also have not seen a single mini on road i would say that MINI is the most flop bike ever made in pakistan by such a big name
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    Quote Originally Posted by meniazijee View Post
    @Juste

    pls explain this:-
    *Avoid DYL Mini-100cc Khusra numa Khalaai Makhlooq at any cost.

    thanks again
    Example 1:
    In simple words if you take a 70cc motorbike and replace its 70cc engine with 100cc engine + you don't replace or modify the rest of the bike parts like chassis, suspensions, body parts e.g. End result will be DYL Mini-100

    Example 2:
    Replacing 1300cc car engine with mehran 800cc engine. Now imagine how dinky mehran will behave

    In simple words:
    Chassis of 70cc, engine of 100cc = DYL Mini-100 bike

    Check the DYL Mini-100 Khalaai Makhlooq on following link

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...yl-new-mini100
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    Quote Originally Posted by faizandawood007 View Post
    i also have not seen a single mini on road i would say that MINI is the most flop bike ever made in pakistan by such a big name
    I hardly saw it on any showroom
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    I agree with Automotorsport_Lover bro.
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    Looked here ads at PW & OLX but cant find the vehicle in the acceptable condition
    at sunday bazzar, first and foremost Ud 100 was very less and mostly dealers were there with tempered meters and normal condition and may be Jugrrars in engines.

    Im now confused in buying it new or used one.

    for new, a threat of snatching and theft, big decrease in resales value

    for used one as i mentioned above.

    Pls suggest me . Thanks

    sorry for a newbie question

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    bro go for 100 CC bike honda or suzuki
    i have a dyl dhoom 70 and i am sick of this bike..
    poor braking , road grip , mileage ( 40-45 km/l) in running period it used to give 55-60 kms/L

    as far as i know about honda 100 mileage its above 60 kms/L if you drive decently.. its very comfortable..
    traveling long distances (25 km +) on 70 cc is sh*t (personal experience )
    you cant cruise above 60 km/h
    on 100 CC you can easily cruise above 70 km/h with a comfortable vibration less ride..
    so my vote is for Honda pridor and Suzuki Sprinter/ Raider

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