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    Default Motorcycle Engine Oils

    Aslam Alikum, Immediately seeing the title you may have said this oh not again again one more thread
    for engine oil but guys please bear this one too purpose of creating this thread is to share the range
    of motorcycle engine oils available in market and for this i want your valuable co-operation as i would
    share engine oils & their pics which obviously will show the specification but i have access to only few oils
    which i have used or which are available in my city
    i can't access all engine oils so that is why i request all of you if you have used an engine oil or you have pics of
    bottle you should share here & share your review about that particular oil
    Your sharing matters alot as i alone can't collect all info about engine oils available in market

    As i just said in last line of first paragraph your co-operation is important in helping me out
    to collect info about engine oils available in market but also i need your help in Engine oils subject As i am not expert in Oils
    if we search on net this subject is too deep so want to know your info about these important terms in engine oils
    this thread will be useless if it does not have any details info about specification terms
    so kindly if you find some good info on net share here

    *API
    *JASO
    *Viscosity
    *SAE Viscosity Numbers 10w40,20w40,20w50 or SAE40
    *Single Grade & Multi Grade
    *Mineral & Synthetic/Semi synthetic
    Etc notify if there are some other important terms

    The Sole purpose of this thread is to collect info about engine oil available in market
    *Specifications/price & *Picture

    ^Sharing some basic info which i know as par my bike

    API in simple word an company which gives certificates of quality to engine oil
    so always look for this API label oil but some manufactures recommends JASO
    But most motorcycle manufactures in pakistan as the big one
    AHl recommends to use engine Oil with API SG,SF,SE or higher grade
    you should look your bike manual for the details about your bike

    Viscosity of oil is shown in the SAE numbers
    most oils nowadays available in market are multigrade
    first number which is followed by W (winter) shows the oil viscosity at low temp:
    lower this number thinner the oil be at lower temp:
    2nd number shows the viscosity of oil at high temp 100c: higher the number thicker the oil
    20w40 oil will remain less thick at 100c as compare to 20w50
    my bike manual says 20w40 is good all rounder for pakistani conditions
    but depending on the temp user can choose which oil suits engine more


    Now Lets Start Sharing Some Engine Oil Brand Which I Know Or Remember


    Shell

    AX3 20w50 0.7lt & 1.0lt (Pic on post #3)
    AX5 15w40 1.0lt (Pic on post #234)

    Caltex


    Havoline 20w40 0.7lt (#1986)
    Havoline 20w50 1.0lt
    Castrol

    Go 20w40 0.7lt (Pics on #146)
    Active 20w50 0.7lt & 1.0lt ( Pics on #155)
    Gtx 20w50 1.0lt (Pics on #357)

    Atlas Honda


    Atlas Engine Oils (Pics on #948, #1054)

    Yamaha Lube

    Yamalube 20w50 (#1727)


    Servo

    M2 30/40 0.7lt & 1.0lt
    M5 20w50 0.7lt & 1.0lt (Pics on #14)

    Dyl Lube


    Dyl Lube 20w50 0.7lt & 0.8lt & 1.0lt (Pic on #4)

    Suzuki SGO Oil

    Suzuki Genuine Oil 10w40 (Pic on #106)

    Zic Lubricants -
    (Offers Online Purchase From Official Site)
    Zic M5 20w40
    Zic M7 10w40 (#1557)

    PSO Oil


    Pso Blaze 4t 20w50

    Total Lube

    Total HI-Perf 20w40 (#1233)
    Total Hi-Perf 10w40

    Master Lubricants

    Master Xtra 4t-MCO 20w40

    Imported Engine Oils


    Kixx (Korean)

    Kixx Ultra 20w50 1.0lt (Pics on #154)
    Kixx Semi Synthetic 20w50 (#1406)

    Liqui Moly (Germany)


    Racing 4t 20w50 1.0lt (Pic on #11, 219. 302,
    )
    Racing Semi Synthetic 10w40 (#1244)

    Repsol Moto 4t 20w50 (#1270)

    Valvoline Champ 4t 20w50 (USA) (#1040)








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    Quote Originally Posted by imranabid4301 View Post
    salam @amjad635 i am from gujrat and i have read all comments and views about engine oil on this thread...and find liqy moly the best engine oil among all other brands but sadly this oil is not available in gujrat...i was using SGO(suzuki genuine oil) in my gd 110 i have completed 6000km on my ride now few days ago i hv used kixx ultra 4t sl in my gd and found it a good engine oil compared to SGO...i just want to confirm that is Kixx oil suitable for gd 110 and espacially in winter season???
    @TZB plz let me know your comments too
    Brother there are bad reviews about kixx
    Our fellow Gull bhai owns GS had very unpleasant experience with oil "clutch slip issue"
    and exactly same issue faced another gs owner so bro there are some negative
    reviews about this oil so just keep an eye on its performance 20w50 is thick
    but it works in pakistani winter always warm up your bike for minute



    Quote Originally Posted by himmi_Pak View Post
    ALERT ALERT !! Havoline is comming 2 number across rwp isb

    after 650 km the oil gives up on me . first time happen with me.

    CLUTCH SLIP or what ever it is call 2 black plates are change due to it

    drove around 40 km from isb to rwp no problems then but at g-8 nadra office

    when in return it gaves up. not picking the kick at all

    oil came as black as tar. please avoid using it. first time i tunned and change oil at different location and got inserted 2 number oil

    about a month ago.

    the guy who fix my bike said they are taking oil in gallon from them and making/packing in somewhere in rwp

    just because of few hundred they are damaging one;s engine - so beware

    the mechanic said apka tu phir be 600 km plus chal gaya hay aj kal es ki itni complaints ah rahi hain

    k aik banday ne dalwaya in bike and ghar tak le kr gaya and same happen with him damn it

    meray sath 3 bikes ka be yehi kam ho raha tha

    now i have pour KIXX ultra 4T SL for Rs 350 for 0.7ML and have to pay a total of 1050 Rs in damage of repairs
    This is very very sad incident but we should not be very surprise with this
    this is Pakistan he fake medicines are being sold for human beings
    so fake engine oils are no problem at all

    Guys this is why i and most fellow senior members always purchase from authorize dealer
    or the dealer which has direct affiliation with company as ahl,castrol,shell etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by imranabid4301 View Post
    salam @amjad635 i am from gujrat and i have read all comments and views about engine oil on this thread...and find liqy moly the best engine oil among all other brands but sadly this oil is not available in gujrat...i was using SGO(suzuki genuine oil) in my gd 110 i have completed 6000km on my ride now few days ago i hv used kixx ultra 4t sl in my gd and found it a good engine oil compared to SGO...i just want to confirm that is Kixx oil suitable for gd 110 and espacially in winter season???
    @TZB plz let me know your comments too
    Sure bro, use this oil. It's good. I have used Kixx 4T Ultra SL consecutively in my GD. It is a 20W-50 oil. I am not quite sure about its performance in winter season since I am out of country at the moment and my GD is in storage (ah, I miss her so much). I'll return by the end of December, so Insha Allah I'll share my experience then with Kixx 4T Ultra SL in winters. However, so far I have had a wonderful experience with Kixx. SGO is crap!
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    yes first time go to different shop just adjacent to the shop where i do the tunning

    bcoz that shop was close that day.

    i pour many oils in hb70 , previously also havoline and found it useful but one cant comprehend which is fake which is original

    posted my story so that many guys get save

    so far i found CASTROL ACTIV to be optimum for me.

    i will test KIXX performance too . its 350 per 0.7ML pack

    and this is the best avail at g-8 markaz and found at reputable oil dealer

    at initial 10 km drive i found it much better than havoline , smooth gear shift and less engine noise - smooth drive

    and plz edit the main post 0.7 ML packing in KIXX is also available in PK
    Quote Originally Posted by amjad635 View Post

    This is very very sad incident but we should not be very surprise with this
    this is Pakistan he fake medicines are being sold for human beings
    so fake engine oils are no problem at all

    Guys this is why i and most fellow senior members always purchase from authorize dealer
    or the dealer which has direct affiliation with company as ahl,castrol,shell etc

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    please tell me the safe drain interval for kixx ultra SL 20W50 ?
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    guys who have use them , @TZB

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    im going no more 1200 km

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    yes LIQUI MOLY is awesome . but for 70 they need to bring in 0.7ml packing- there are majority of ride 70cc

    it is expensive to buy 750 RS 1 litre bottle

    and if your drive is less say change oil need after 2-3 month then rest of bottles or oil(even u buy plenty) is mere not useful.

    tommorrow went to metro just hr before incident should have bought shell ax-5 . the optimum of local brands and 15w40

    good for winters. anyway tragedy happens


    i have tried castrol activ once and it was ood in performance.

    but i didnt find in g-8 markaz after 4-5 shop search

    and kixx is what optimum avail and i had to pour something so the ride will be driven.

    DRIVE MOSTLY CAR IN WINTERS

    Quote Originally Posted by sherry56 View Post
    So sad to hear abt ur loss.bt if u people want the pure caltex oil all of there products u can contact the direct distributer and I assure u dat oil will original 100%.as my uncle is in this business and they get the oil directly from the warehouse and they even visit the warehouse them self very often to check every thing is going fine or not.
    U people jst check urself by giving them a try
    And one most imp thing m not marketing their products, they already have a huge market to serve .I am jst telling u people abt them so that u shud alwaz get the original product.so in short i jst want to help u people.
    Bt one more thing m not using havoline in my bike :p bt liquoy moli.

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    i think Gull bhai have got a 2 number copy of KIXX

    it is an imported oil . let see what happens with me fingers cross

    Quote Originally Posted by amjad635 View Post
    Brother there are bad reviews about kixx
    Our fellow Gull bhai owns GS had very unpleasant experience with oil "clutch slip issue"
    and exactly same issue faced another gs owner so bro there are some negative
    reviews about this oil so just keep an eye on its performance 20w50 is thick
    but it works in pakistani winter always warm up your bike for minute


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    Quote Originally Posted by himmi_Pak View Post
    please tell me the safe drain interval for kixx ultra SL 20W50 ?
    //
    guys who have use them , @TZB

    \\

    im going no more 1200 km
    Bro, I drained it after 1,600 km. After my good experience with it, I think 1,500 km is a fine drain interval for this (yet) wonderful engine oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by himmi_Pak View Post
    i think Gull bhai have got a 2 number copy of KIXX

    it is an imported oil . let see what happens with me fingers cross
    Brother i have used Kixx several times in three different bikes and purchased from different cities at times
    I have already shared that i didn't have any problem using Kixx in Honda Deluxe.
    But GS is a bit picky when it comes to oils. And Kixx doesn't play well with its clutch when engine is cold.
    I am sure it'll be fine in your 70.
    If talking about imported, then even Zic 4T is imported

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    sir Zic ki tu bat hi na krien chaye mars se be aye

    enka car ka brand hi acha hay. ZIC mene dalwaya tha after 300km change kr liya too much increase engine noise

    sir ap kiya kehtay hain kixxx kitna km use krna chiye?

    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    Brother i have used Kixx several times in three different bikes and purchased from different cities at times
    I have already shared that i didn't have any problem using Kixx in Honda Deluxe.
    But GS is a bit picky when it comes to oils. And Kixx doesn't play well with its clutch when engine is cold.
    I am sure it'll be fine in your 70.
    If talking about imported, then even Zic 4T is imported

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    Default A day with Liqui Moly :)

    Total 4T was used for 800Km when my bike touched 4000Km mark.
    I was prepared for oil change with Liqui Moly with new oil filter.
    So went ahead and drained the oil, oil was still maintaining good viscosity but i couldn't wait any more to try LM out so drained it anyway
    Replaced the oil filter with new one and put LM into bike. Went out and used the bike for around 10Km that day. It was doing fine. (didn't feel any magical transformation though, may be too little use to tell)
    Anyway, next morning started the bike and let it warm up for a minute like i used to do daily. Then as soon as i pressed the clutch and engaged first gear, it took a jerk and engine stalled. I though no problem, may be LM is a bit thick that's why, so i let it warm up for another minute and engaged the gear but it was same again.
    I thought that can't even engage the gear properly after 2 min warm up, it isn't good. Hell it isn't even that much cold here yet, next two months are gonna be much colder.
    Anyway, i engaged the gear while giving some throttle at the same time so that it won't stall this time and took the bike to the exit gate (almost 150 feet distance), opened the gate and tried to engage gear and damn it stalled again.
    So basically after about 4 minute warm up, clutch still wasn't upto its proper function. Came back after a round of market and finally clutch was working fine.

    I thought i'll have to follow devilskreed bro's tip if i want to use LM (aka start the bike and take my breakfast while bike warms up ), not my cup of tea
    So went out , bought a pack of Total 4T and came back.
    Then i was replacing a 700 rupee/litre oil with a 320 rupee/litre oil in my bike and laughing at myself at the same time.

    Have ever seen a fresh LM coming out of bike???
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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    Total 4T was used for 800Km when my bike touched 4000Km mark.
    I was prepared for oil change with Liqui Moly with new oil filter.
    So went ahead and drained the oil, oil was still maintaining good viscosity but i couldn't wait any more to try LM out so drained it anyway
    Replaced the oil filter with new one and put LM into bike. Went out and used the bike for around 10Km that day. It was doing fine. (didn't feel any magical transformation though, may be too little use to tell)
    Anyway, next morning started the bike and let it warm up for a minute like i used to do daily. Then as soon as i pressed the clutch and engaged first gear, it took a jerk and engine stalled. I though no problem, may be LM is a bit thick that's why, so i let it warm up for another minute and engaged the gear but it was same again.
    I thought that can't even engage the gear properly after 2 min warm up, it isn't good. Hell it isn't even that much cold here yet, next two months are gonna be much colder.
    Anyway, i engaged the gear while giving some throttle at the same time so that it won't stall this time and took the bike to the exit gate (almost 150 feet distance), opened the gate and tried to engage gear and damn it stalled again.
    So basically after about 4 minute warm up, clutch still wasn't upto its proper function. Came back after a round of market and finally clutch was working fine.

    I thought i'll have to follow devilskreed bro's tip if i want to use LM (aka start the bike and take my breakfast while bike warms up ), not my cup of tea
    So went out , bought a pack of Total 4T and came back.
    Then i was replacing a 700 rupee/litre oil with a 320 rupee/litre oil in my bike and laughing at myself at the same time.

    Have ever seen a fresh LM coming out of bike???
    Same here bro
    The viscosity is high otherwise i would have used this, currently using SGO OIL 10W40 it is better for winters

    Bro you changed oil filter at 4000 km mark , did you change it first time or is this second time you have changed oil filter

    Also do you think total 4T is better oil than sgo. (what is total 4T oil viscosity)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nom125 View Post
    Same here bro
    The viscosity is high otherwise i would have used this, currently using SGO OIL 10W40 it is better for winters

    Bro you changed oil filter at 4000 km mark , did you change it first time or is this second time you have changed oil filter

    Also do you think total 4T is better oil than sgo. (what is total 4T oil viscosity)
    I know viscosity is high, but i have never seen a bike this much sensitive to oil.

    I changed first oil filter at 1000km, second at 4000km and from now on will be changing it every 4000km.

    I found Total 4T better than SGO. It's a 20W-40 oil and till now haven't bothered me in morning warm ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    Total 4T was used for 800Km when my bike touched 4000Km mark.
    I was prepared for oil change with Liqui Moly with new oil filter.
    So went ahead and drained the oil, oil was still maintaining good viscosity but i couldn't wait any more to try LM out so drained it anyway
    Replaced the oil filter with new one and put LM into bike. Went out and used the bike for around 10Km that day. It was doing fine. (didn't feel any magical transformation though, may be too little use to tell)
    Anyway, next morning started the bike and let it warm up for a minute like i used to do daily. Then as soon as i pressed the clutch and engaged first gear, it took a jerk and engine stalled. I though no problem, may be LM is a bit thick that's why, so i let it warm up for another minute and engaged the gear but it was same again.
    I thought that can't even engage the gear properly after 2 min warm up, it isn't good. Hell it isn't even that much cold here yet, next two months are gonna be much colder.
    Anyway, i engaged the gear while giving some throttle at the same time so that it won't stall this time and took the bike to the exit gate (almost 150 feet distance), opened the gate and tried to engage gear and damn it stalled again.
    So basically after about 4 minute warm up, clutch still wasn't upto its proper function. Came back after a round of market and finally clutch was working fine.

    I thought i'll have to follow devilskreed bro's tip if i want to use LM (aka start the bike and take my breakfast while bike warms up ), not my cup of tea
    So went out , bought a pack of Total 4T and came back.
    Then i was replacing a 700 rupee/litre oil with a 320 rupee/litre oil in my bike and laughing at myself at the same time.

    Have ever seen a fresh LM coming out of bike???
    Motorcycle Engine Oils -1313755
    Well.. I guess ur bike needed a better tune up or atleast idle rpm adjustment rather then the oil change!

    New oil fresh + viscous = dense.
    Morning + cold + oil all gathered in the pan = Bad start.
    If u had been on a long route the difference would have been apparent, and in summers the difference is definately going to be apparent and in summers + long route ur gona love this oil!

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    I would like to share my experience with liqui moly. i changed oil of my bike CD 70 at 1800 km after pouring LM and driving it i feel that sound of engine and gear becomes bit low nothing more. but after 100 km i feel drive becomes smooth. i have a good experience with this oil. i will definitely stick to this oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    Total 4T was used for 800Km when my bike touched 4000Km mark.
    I was prepared for oil change with Liqui Moly with new oil filter.
    So went ahead and drained the oil, oil was still maintaining good viscosity but i couldn't wait any more to try LM out so drained it anyway
    Replaced the oil filter with new one and put LM into bike. Went out and used the bike for around 10Km that day. It was doing fine. (didn't feel any magical transformation though, may be too little use to tell)
    Anyway, next morning started the bike and let it warm up for a minute like i used to do daily. Then as soon as i pressed the clutch and engaged first gear, it took a jerk and engine stalled. I though no problem, may be LM is a bit thick that's why, so i let it warm up for another minute and engaged the gear but it was same again.
    I thought that can't even engage the gear properly after 2 min warm up, it isn't good. Hell it isn't even that much cold here yet, next two months are gonna be much colder.
    Anyway, i engaged the gear while giving some throttle at the same time so that it won't stall this time and took the bike to the exit gate (almost 150 feet distance), opened the gate and tried to engage gear and damn it stalled again.
    So basically after about 4 minute warm up, clutch still wasn't upto its proper function. Came back after a round of market and finally clutch was working fine.

    I thought i'll have to follow devilskreed bro's tip if i want to use LM (aka start the bike and take my breakfast while bike warms up ), not my cup of tea
    So went out , bought a pack of Total 4T and came back.
    Then i was replacing a 700 rupee/litre oil with a 320 rupee/litre oil in my bike and laughing at myself at the same time.

    Have ever seen a fresh LM coming out of bike???
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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    Total 4T was used for 800Km when my bike touched 4000Km mark.
    I was prepared for oil change with Liqui Moly with new oil filter.
    So went ahead and drained the oil, oil was still maintaining good viscosity but i couldn't wait any more to try LM out so drained it anyway
    Replaced the oil filter with new one and put LM into bike. Went out and used the bike for around 10Km that day. It was doing fine. (didn't feel any magical transformation though, may be too little use to tell)
    Anyway, next morning started the bike and let it warm up for a minute like i used to do daily. Then as soon as i pressed the clutch and engaged first gear, it took a jerk and engine stalled. I though no problem, may be LM is a bit thick that's why, so i let it warm up for another minute and engaged the gear but it was same again.
    I thought that can't even engage the gear properly after 2 min warm up, it isn't good. Hell it isn't even that much cold here yet, next two months are gonna be much colder.
    Anyway, i engaged the gear while giving some throttle at the same time so that it won't stall this time and took the bike to the exit gate (almost 150 feet distance), opened the gate and tried to engage gear and damn it stalled again.
    So basically after about 4 minute warm up, clutch still wasn't upto its proper function. Came back after a round of market and finally clutch was working fine.

    I thought i'll have to follow devilskreed bro's tip if i want to use LM (aka start the bike and take my breakfast while bike warms up ), not my cup of tea
    So went out , bought a pack of Total 4T and came back.
    Then i was replacing a 700 rupee/litre oil with a 320 rupee/litre oil in my bike and laughing at myself at the same time.

    Have ever seen a fresh LM coming out of bike???
    Motorcycle Engine Oils -1313755
    Sad to see this gull bhai. Oil may be doesn't suite your bikes engine.

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    Sir this exact same thing happens in my gs too. I start up the bike let it idle or bike pe kapra mara achi tarha. That's enough time for it to warm up and work properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haji__John View Post
    Sir this exact same thing happens in my gs too. I start up the bike let it idle or bike pe kapra mara achi tarha. That's enough time for it to warm up and work properly.
    Good Tip of the day.

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    sir jee ek bat pochi thi ap ne reply nai kia.kher its ok ab dono baton ka reply ek sath kar dijiey ga.kixx k sth b same problem ha mje jo apne liquiy moly k sth hui.bike bnd ho jati thi sba but ab thora sa warm up kar k or thora clutch press kar k slightly accltr den tu ok ha.ek bhai ne sahi kaha k long route pe esey thick imported good quality oils ki performance ka sahi pta chalta ha clear distinction tab nazr ata ha jb constantly high rpm pe highway pe hotey hen hm.ek brand hi ab try karney wala reh gya ha or wo ha castrol active.isko b try kar len ap???baqi tu ap ney kar liey hen or detailed feedback b dey dia ha.total me yama me 4 sal se use kar rha hon its fine ab next time gs me b try karo ga...

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