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    Aslam Alikum, Immediately seeing the title you may have said this oh not again again one more thread
    for engine oil but guys please bear this one too purpose of creating this thread is to share the range
    of motorcycle engine oils available in market and for this i want your valuable co-operation as i would
    share engine oils & their pics which obviously will show the specification but i have access to only few oils
    which i have used or which are available in my city
    i can't access all engine oils so that is why i request all of you if you have used an engine oil or you have pics of
    bottle you should share here & share your review about that particular oil
    Your sharing matters alot as i alone can't collect all info about engine oils available in market

    As i just said in last line of first paragraph your co-operation is important in helping me out
    to collect info about engine oils available in market but also i need your help in Engine oils subject As i am not expert in Oils
    if we search on net this subject is too deep so want to know your info about these important terms in engine oils
    this thread will be useless if it does not have any details info about specification terms
    so kindly if you find some good info on net share here

    *API
    *JASO
    *Viscosity
    *SAE Viscosity Numbers 10w40,20w40,20w50 or SAE40
    *Single Grade & Multi Grade
    *Mineral & Synthetic/Semi synthetic
    Etc notify if there are some other important terms

    The Sole purpose of this thread is to collect info about engine oil available in market
    *Specifications/price & *Picture

    ^Sharing some basic info which i know as par my bike

    API in simple word an company which gives certificates of quality to engine oil
    so always look for this API label oil but some manufactures recommends JASO
    But most motorcycle manufactures in pakistan as the big one
    AHl recommends to use engine Oil with API SG,SF,SE or higher grade
    you should look your bike manual for the details about your bike

    Viscosity of oil is shown in the SAE numbers
    most oils nowadays available in market are multigrade
    first number which is followed by W (winter) shows the oil viscosity at low temp:
    lower this number thinner the oil be at lower temp:
    2nd number shows the viscosity of oil at high temp 100c: higher the number thicker the oil
    20w40 oil will remain less thick at 100c as compare to 20w50
    my bike manual says 20w40 is good all rounder for pakistani conditions
    but depending on the temp user can choose which oil suits engine more


    Now Lets Start Sharing Some Engine Oil Brand Which I Know Or Remember


    Shell

    AX3 20w50 0.7lt & 1.0lt (Pic on post #3)
    AX5 15w40 1.0lt (Pic on post #234)

    Caltex


    Havoline 20w40 0.7lt (#1986)
    Havoline 20w50 1.0lt
    Castrol

    Go 20w40 0.7lt (Pics on #146)
    Active 20w50 0.7lt & 1.0lt ( Pics on #155)
    Gtx 20w50 1.0lt (Pics on #357)

    Atlas Honda


    Atlas Engine Oils (Pics on #948, #1054)

    Yamaha Lube

    Yamalube 20w50 (#1727)


    Servo

    M2 30/40 0.7lt & 1.0lt
    M5 20w50 0.7lt & 1.0lt (Pics on #14)

    Dyl Lube


    Dyl Lube 20w50 0.7lt & 0.8lt & 1.0lt (Pic on #4)

    Suzuki SGO Oil

    Suzuki Genuine Oil 10w40 (Pic on #106)

    Zic Lubricants -
    (Offers Online Purchase From Official Site)
    Zic M5 20w40
    Zic M7 10w40 (#1557)

    PSO Oil


    Pso Blaze 4t 20w50

    Total Lube

    Total HI-Perf 20w40 (#1233)
    Total Hi-Perf 10w40

    Master Lubricants

    Master Xtra 4t-MCO 20w40

    Imported Engine Oils


    Kixx (Korean)

    Kixx Ultra 20w50 1.0lt (Pics on #154)
    Kixx Semi Synthetic 20w50 (#1406)

    Liqui Moly (Germany)


    Racing 4t 20w50 1.0lt (Pic on #11, 219. 302,
    )
    Racing Semi Synthetic 10w40 (#1244)

    Repsol Moto 4t 20w50 (#1270)

    Valvoline Champ 4t 20w50 (USA) (#1040)








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    Quote Originally Posted by SyedMoazzam View Post
    Yar idea to acha hay
    Try karo aur results post zrur karna
    bohat acha
    Total 4T ko phir wapis bottle main save kar leta hoon. March mein use kar loonga, wat say???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherry56 View Post
    Whats ur suggestion for cg euro 2 currently m using liquoy moli bt not geting good fuel average.i drive it peacefully and most of my drive is on long routes bt still geting 38-40kmph

    Sent from my GT-I9100P using PW Forums mobile app
    bro kixx k sath problem thori bht gs me hi nzr i ha otherwise its the best available oil in that price range.and as for as cg is concern, i ve seen lot of hapy users in lahore many of them shifted to kixx from other brands.u also just go for kixx

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    Quote Originally Posted by moons View Post
    bro kixx k sath problem thori bht gs me hi nzr i ha otherwise its the best available oil in that price range.and as for as cg is concern, i ve seen lot of hapy users in lahore many of them shifted to kixx from other brands.u also just go for kixx
    Gull & Moons Bhai
    Yaar Aakhir Maslaa Kiya Hai GS Ke Saath Esko Quality Waali Cheezein Pasand Nahien Kiya

    Liqui Moly Aur Kixx Dono Ko Quality Waala Engine Oil Samjha Jaata Hai Aur Dono He Se
    GS Bilkul Nafrat Karte Hai


    Waise Seriously Speaking I Doubt On One Thing Which Is Common In Liqui Moly & Kixx
    And It Is API "SL" Kanhe Yeh Toh Wajaah Nahein Shaayad GS Ko API SL Pasand Nahein Hai
    Jo Ke latest API Specification Hai

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    Quote Originally Posted by amjad635 View Post
    Gull & Moons Bhai
    Yaar Aakhir Maslaa Kiya Hai GS Ke Saath Esko Quality Waali Cheezein Pasand Nahien Kiya

    Liqui Moly Aur Kixx Dono Ko Quality Waala Engine Oil Samjha Jaata Hai Aur Dono He Se
    GS Bilkul Nafrat Karte Hai


    Waise Seriously Speaking I Doubt On One Thing Which Is Common In Liqui Moly & Kixx
    And It Is API "SL" Kanhe Yeh Toh Wajaah Nahein Shaayad GS Ko API SL Pasand Nahein Hai
    Jo Ke latest API Specification Hai
    i think it's not about API grade. It's more of a viscosity thing. May be GS engine doesn't have enough clearance to paly well with a thickish 20W-50 oil. As most of the modern engines require thinner grades. I am quite sure when GS has done some 20K km or so, then this problem might gradually vanish. But on brand new engine, 20W-50+winter= not cool

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    gull bro is 100% rite.there should b a quality 15w40 or 10w40 oil in market which is not available so we have to go for 20w50.i wanna add one more thing
    (GS KO IZZAT RAAS NAI HA BAS ACHI CHEEZEN HZM NAI KARTI)

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    Quote Originally Posted by moons View Post
    gull bro is 100% rite.there should b a quality 15w40 or 10w40 oil in market which is not available so we have to go for 20w50.i wanna add one more thing
    (GS KO IZZAT RAAS NAI HA BAS ACHI CHEEZEN HZM NAI KARTI)
    Yar i am also planning to drain my liqui moly which has completed 500Km and piur in Zic 4T as it is fine in winters
    The problem i am getting is that the bike does not start with self starter or kick even with choke early in the morning
    After two or three kicks it starts but with self starter no cold start
    This problem was not in previous winters as i was using zic 10W-40
    20W-50 is just too thick
    Note: My dad's 70 has no problem whatsoever with liqui moly and starts on 1st kick......lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyedMoazzam View Post
    Yar i am also planning to drain my liqui moly which has completed 500Km and piur in Zic 4T as it is fine in winters
    The problem i am getting is that the bike does not start with self starter or kick even with choke early in the morning
    After two or three kicks it starts but with self starter no cold start
    This problem was not in previous winters as i was using zic 10W-40
    20W-50 is just too thick
    Note: My dad's 70 has no problem whatsoever with liqui moly and starts on 1st kick......lol
    exactly what i was trying to tell. each bike plays differently with different viscosity grades.
    your bike engine is clearly Choking under heavy oil, so better shift to thinner grade for winter. Options are there in market for a reason.

    There should be a separate thread of Engine Oils for GS150
    as general rules don't apply to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    exactly what i was trying to tell. each bike plays differently with different viscosity grades.
    your bike engine is clearly Choking under heavy oil, so better shift to thinner grade for winter. Options are there in market for a reason.

    There should be a separate thread of Engine Oils for GS150
    as general rules don't apply to it.
    Yeah rightly said

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    bros zic is not bad in winters,using it in my pridor and satisfied with it,the best part about zic is bikes acceleration just love it,but no doubt it is worst in summers.
    Sada nai banya.......Chalo koi gul nai....mitti pao...its ok..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyone View Post
    bros zic is not bad in winters,using it in my pridor and satisfied with it,the best part about zic is bikes acceleration just love it,but no doubt it is worst in summers.
    Thanks for posting your feedback brother

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    ZIC 4T Fully Synthetic 10W-40
    Motorcycle Engine Oils -1316046
    Change after 2000Km

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Forward View Post
    ZIC 4T Fully Synthetic 10W-40
    Motorcycle Engine Oils -1316046
    Change after 2000Km
    @6Forward bhai share some reviews of this oil, your experience and also price of this oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maaru View Post
    @6Forward bhai share some reviews of this oil, your experience and also price of this oil
    I am using this oil in my CG 125 from day first and my bike has complete 18000 km. I change after 2000 km. I always purches oil from ZIC service centre DHA lahore and price is 320.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Forward View Post
    I am using this oil in my CG 125 from day first and my bike has complete 18000 km. I change after 2000 km. I always purches oil from ZIC service centre DHA lahore and price is 320.
    zic 4t for Rs.320?????? i ve got from filter house lahore in Rs.430.bro where this shop is exctly located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moons View Post
    zic 4t for Rs.320?????? i ve got from filter house lahore in Rs.430.bro where this shop is exctly located?
    Sorry


    320 price of 0.7 liter
    430 for 1 liter

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Forward View Post
    Sorry


    320 price of 0.7 liter
    430 for 1 liter
    oh, ok
    i got Zic litre pack for 450 here and was wondering if i got ripped off

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    Yaar 320Rs 0.7L pack ki price ha.
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge"

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    as Bottle says Fully Synthetic @devilskreed what is your opinion now?

    about synthetic over mineral, this guy is using since start

    Quote Originally Posted by 6Forward View Post
    I am using this oil in my CG 125 from day first and my bike has complete 18000 km. I change after 2000 km. I always purches oil from ZIC service centre DHA lahore and price is 320.

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    Zic 4T is NOT fully synthetic
    You can't get a fully synthetic in Rs 430/ litre.

    As per my poor knowledge,
    Lubricants are made from basically four groups of base oils.
    And only Group IV lubricants are true synthetics. While Zic 4T belongs to Group III and why it has fully synthetic written on box?? you can read below.

    Group I
    Group I base oils are classified as less than 90 percent saturates, greater than 0.03 percent sulfur and with a viscosity-index range of 80 to 120. The temperature range for these oils is from 32 to 150 degrees F. Group I base oils are solvent-refined, which is a simpler refining process. This is why they are the cheapest base oils on the market.

    Group II

    Group II base oils are defined as being more than 90 percent saturates, less than 0.03 percent sulfur and with a viscosity index of 80 to 120. They are often manufactured by hydrocracking, which is a more complex process than what is used for Group I base oils. Since all the hydrocarbon molecules of these oils are saturated, Group II base oils have better antioxidation properties. They also have a clearer color and cost more in comparison to Group I base oils. Still, Group II base oils are becoming very common on the market today and are priced very close to Group I oils.

    Group III

    Group III base oils are greater than 90 percent saturates, less than 0.03 percent sulfur and have a viscosity index above 120. These oils are refined even more than Group II base oils and generally are severely hydrocracked (higher pressure and heat). This longer process is designed to achieve a purer base oil.Although made from crude oil, Group III base oils are sometimes described as synthesized hydrocarbons.Like Group II base oils, these oils are also becoming more prevalent.

    Group IV
    Group IV base oils are polyalphaolefins (PAOs). These synthetic base oils are made through a process called synthesizing. They have a much broader temperature range and are great for use in extreme cold conditions and high heat applications.



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    interesting indeed

    a FULLY SYNTHETIC IS NOT FULLY SYNTHETIC

    then what is need of mentioning it on the bottle or must be complete group



    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    Zic 4T is NOT fully synthetic
    You can't get a fully synthetic in Rs 430/ litre.

    As per my poor knowledge,
    Lubricants are made from basically four groups of base oils.
    And only Group IV lubricants are true synthetics. While Zic 4T belongs to Group III and why it has fully synthetic written on box?? you can read below.

    Group I
    Group I base oils are classified as less than 90 percent saturates, greater than 0.03 percent sulfur and with a viscosity-index range of 80 to 120. The temperature range for these oils is from 32 to 150 degrees F. Group I base oils are solvent-refined, which is a simpler refining process. This is why they are the cheapest base oils on the market.

    Group II

    Group II base oils are defined as being more than 90 percent saturates, less than 0.03 percent sulfur and with a viscosity index of 80 to 120. They are often manufactured by hydrocracking, which is a more complex process than what is used for Group I base oils. Since all the hydrocarbon molecules of these oils are saturated, Group II base oils have better antioxidation properties. They also have a clearer color and cost more in comparison to Group I base oils. Still, Group II base oils are becoming very common on the market today and are priced very close to Group I oils.

    Group III

    Group III base oils are greater than 90 percent saturates, less than 0.03 percent sulfur and have a viscosity index above 120. These oils are refined even more than Group II base oils and generally are severely hydrocracked (higher pressure and heat). This longer process is designed to achieve a purer base oil.Although made from crude oil, Group III base oils are sometimes described as synthesized hydrocarbons.Like Group II base oils, these oils are also becoming more prevalent.

    Group IV
    Group IV base oils are polyalphaolefins (PAOs). These synthetic base oils are made through a process called synthesizing. They have a much broader temperature range and are great for use in extreme cold conditions and high heat applications.



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