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    1. The Complete Story of Changing Rims on my CG125 for Perfect Alignment: @ Page 5 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...on#post4359405

    and

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-5#post4403891


    2. Engine Push Rods Changed to OLD CG125 Model, Japenese: @ Page 5 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-5#post4396649


    3. The Raam Kattha of Adjusting Alignment of CG125: @ Page 7 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-7#post4449978


    4. Locks Kit Purchased at 8th July, Now Fitted:@ Page 8, Post #159 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-8#post4464533

    5. Cylinder Head Seal Changed at 8th September 2014 to solve Tappet Cover Leak @ Page 8, Post#149 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-8#post4521260


    6. Panther Pacer Rear 3.00-17 Changed at 30th December 2014; Old Panther Power was faulty with misalignment @ Page 8, Post#156 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-8#post4650399


    7. Feeler Gauge & Valve Adjuster Bought from HYS, Brandreth Road; Page 9, Post#165 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-9#post4666830


    8. Engine Works Done @ 39920; Page 10, Post#200 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...10#post4730453 w/ Pictures in Post#202 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...11#post4730459 ... and Post#203 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...11#post4730462


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    Engine Oil Experiences

    Kixx Ultra 4T (2nd Bottle) - Odo Reading 34800 to 35811: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...56#post4340438

    Liqui Moly 4T (1st Bottle) - Odo Reading 35811 to 37082: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...56#post4340438
    ++ Also listed my (initial) reservations about LiquiMoly ++ : https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...63#post4507036

    Liqui Moly 4T (2nd Bottle) - Odo Reading 37082 to 38322: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...76#post4640291

    Back to Kixx Ultra 4T - @ Odo Reading 38322 to 39149: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...76#post4640291

    Kixx Ultra 4T - @ Odo Reading 39149 to 39920 (Engine Work was coming up, so again got Kixx Ultra)

    Havoline - @ Odo Reading 39920 to [ongoing] (Engine Work was coming up, so again got Kixx Ultra)

    *A Test to find difference between expensive Liqui Moly vs. Cheaper Kixx Ultra*


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    CG125 Workshop Manual - Courtesy of our dear @r1
    Preview (Download for High Quality version): https://app.box.com/s/gl4rrv11kr3wd38xb0ph


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    @ussama.ghanchi ! You cannot find Araya Japan Rims in Pakistan. Both Araya J and Union Rims are made in Thiland and are of adequate quality (better than the stock one). So just get them and be happy.

    Otherwise, you can import one from abroad, if you can

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    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post
    @ussama.ghanchi ! You cannot find Araya Japan Rims in Pakistan. Both Araya J and Union Rims are made in Thiland and are of adequate quality (better than the stock one). So just get them and be happy.

    Otherwise, you can import one from abroad, if you can

    Oh and stay away from OLX. Many choonay baaz there
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Yes could be the reason. Why don't you give a try to genuine ahl clutch plates this time? Cost around Rs. 550/
    I think the real problem lies in finding "real" Japense ones, which sadly don't exist in Pakistan (judging from the level of "looting" there is)

    But many mechanics here claim that if you are the AHL distributor (like Makhdoom Corp. McLeod Road Lahore) ask "Japenese" clutch plates, they'd give you. Do they really? Also, they are not priced something around Rs.550 ... but nearly 1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    In last 2 months i have blown 3 x plugs. First NGK then Denso and AHL genuine spark plug. Now using a Malaysian brand DBL.
    What is the reason behind this?
    What do you mean "Blown" the plugs? How? I mean, how were you riding the bike? Pushing it to the limits, or it was out-of-nowhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Blown matlab Plug Shot issue. Am not an aggressive rider, usually ride below 50kms/hr and my daily use is not more then 3-4kms. Facing the problem in acceleration and some times bike do back fires.
    I have no idea Never been in such a situation.

    Could it be a problem with the spark plug itself, or rather its quality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Mechanic told me sir the bike is running on very light fuel mixture and this is the reason of spark plug blown. I checked the plug it was light brown, however i am not satisfied with his arguments.
    Light fuel mixture blowing up the spark plug? Agar ye baat hay to mera to phir 10 baar hona chahiye aisay. But it never happened.

    But i'll ask around to see what response do i get.

    If its feasible, can you please post a picture of the blown plugs?
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    Stick to the post guyz..

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    @r1 ! I asked 2 people yesterday, and they blamed it on "head problem" ...meaning, bike's values, rings or piston ...something has deteriorated, and needs changing. But they also said that the first suspicion should be on Spark Plug itself, and that sometimes aftermarket plugs (like Iradium ones) cause these issues.

    Now, i don't really believe them but their opinion might have differed if the bike was infront of them.

    Anyway, the first NGK Plug you used ... that seems to be a sasti quality one. Or Was it Original NGK? Here is what NGK website shows, to identify do number plugs: PLUG STUDIO / NGK
    Abobobilly's CG125 Thread - Its Evolution and Stuff I Changed - photo7

    The second Picture, Denso Plug. Why is there Oil around the Tip?

    The 3rd Picture, of that Malaysian Plug you are using, it shows your bike is in perfect condition.

    So there you go, i am also confused on what could be the problem Time to tag other specialists in the thread, like @vickytulla, @Xulfiqar, @aximaxim ... brethren
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    @abobobilly the pictures..

    NGK
    Aftermarket Rims for CG125  Araya vs Union -1413587

    Aftermarket Rims for CG125  Araya vs Union -1413585

    Denso
    Aftermarket Rims for CG125  Araya vs Union -1413586

    Currently using a Malaysian Spark Plug
    Aftermarket Rims for CG125  Araya vs Union -1413588
    CHECKOUT This WEBSITE Its about "reading the spark plug.

    The tip of the Malay plug is a bit darker than ideal...... the air fuel mixture is a bit off.....a teeny bit richer than what it should have been.

    The 2 pictures above that shows a very oily and wet carbon on the spark plug. A very common diagnosis is that you have worn piston rings but I do not think that is what it is..... bcoz you might have noticed smoke from the exhaust. It happens sometimes when you over due the service interval. Nothing to worry about. If it happens again than maybe its an engine issue and currently the state of the Malay plug suggest that other the mixture setting everything is fine....... your engine isnt over heating. No detonation....no pre-ignition, no nasty deposits...... so all in all good news.

    FYI...... yes lean air fuel mixture can and will short the plug on longer usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post

    So there you go, i am also confused on what could be the problem Time to tag other specialists in the thread, like @vickytulla, @Xulfiqar, @aximaxim ... brethren
    Apni tareef kisko pasand nahi hoti...... to be named among waqar and Xulfiqar is an honor for me.
    Im not being modest or trying to prove my humility but rather just stating facts.
    Waqar is an encyclopedia of motorcycles and Xulfiqar is in another league.
    But not accepting the compliment is stupid and I greedily accept this compliment as it cant get any better than this
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    Baat RIMS say chali or pohanch plugs per gaye hai . ....


    I have found my bike to response best when it has a plug in this shape/colour @r1 its a little above the ideal zone ... a little rich (jisay aam zubaan men "halki aaanch ka tarka kehty hain" ) off-course one do not get the best feul average but one does get a bullet CG acceleration.

    Yes I used to have short plugs when I used bike on leaned setting as it used to over heat and bake the plug... thats when I was in college in 2002.... gud old times. at that time i didnt knew why I get short plugs right after a month or even earlier but I kept my mechnic to lean it as much as possible becuase feul k paisy bachanay hotay thay.. lekin wo kharch plug pora ker deta tha

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    Your bike rims still looks like brand new... which model is it ...

    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    @abobobilly lets back to the topic. Attaching pictures of my bike rims and the rear tyre which i really want to replace now.

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    Aftermarket Rims for CG125  Araya vs Union -1414002

    Rear
    Aftermarket Rims for CG125  Araya vs Union -1414004

    Rear Stock Servis Tyre
    Aftermarket Rims for CG125  Araya vs Union -1414003



    I think CG is the most less hassle bike if we compare it to GS/RP/Dlx there parts and maintaince both are expensive ... CG tu bechari kuch bhi nahi mangti or chalti rehti hai ... ?

    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Am extremely sorry that was all my mistake, as you know there is no particular thread fpr CG and HEADACHES. But you know CG and Problems Choli Daman Ka Sath

    Well anyway now the bike is back in action again. Actually i have been in Muree and Swat in last 2 months and there mechanics raped my CG lol.. But thanks to some dear friends now problems are gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Model is 2007. Tank side covers are changed.

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    MASHALLAH bro your bikes condition is very good

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    @vickytulla! Sorry for derailing the thread, but aap ko pata to hay CG125 ka. RIMS se iss ki problems shuru hoti hain, and Engine pe aa k bhi nahi ruktin
    @r1 ! Janab, whats wrong with your current tyres? They are in perfect condition. Okay, maybe the front is a little worn out.

    Not sure about the rims though. Remember when i say AHL covers sh*t rims with better quality chrome ... fooling people into thinking that these are very good quality rims. Well, THEY ARE NOT. @vickytulla, also goes for you bro ). I have the exact same ones that r1 has, by SOMO ... with the only difference being ... my rim doesn't state the year they are manufactured in i.e. 2007 (mine are actually 2008-09 ones).

    Or you just want to change them for more grip? Why not try to deflate them a little first? Because I suspect the rear tyre is currently at more than 45psi, which would be fine IF you do pillion riding more often. Otherwise, i always keep rear tyre at 38psi, which also works fine pillion riding. (but increases the risk of puncture, especially if your rims are accumulating rust from the inside) ... and front tyre not more than 25psi.

    What is the current tyre pressure in your bike's tyres?

    If you are still not convinced and want to change them anyway ... well, i think you should aim for slightly wider tyres. (I myself have been thinking of getting wider tyres but current tyres are far from weary.) Like 2.75-18 for the front (stock is 2.50-18) and 3.25-17 for the rear (stock is 3.00-17). Stock size for both Tubes and Rims will work just fine. What do you think?
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    SOMO rims are the worst when it comes to quality,they are no different from their chonda compatriots.I have somo rims in CD-100 and believe me every 2-3 months they need to be aligned and reshaped.

    I am seriously considering installing araya-J rims in my CD.But i would like to wait and learn from your experience @abobobilly
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    @r1 ! I am gonna be honest. If you want to do sharp turns on your bike on highway, then thats a bad idea. Tyres are not the only one to make road-grip. It depends on the chassis design as much as it does on performance of shock-absorbers. So the reason why this bike will never be able to have PROPER road grip, should be clear by now.

    However, it can be improved, by:
    - Installing wider tyres: It'll increase the straight line stability of your bike. Most people only install "Rear" wider tyre which helps but disconnects the behavior of front and back wheel (most noticeable during sharp turns on high speeds) ... so front tyre should also be changed for both tyres to work together.

    - Better quality tyres: The reason why people like Panther/Servise tyres is because they are cheap, and they are very long lasting. The downsides of 'long-lasting' is that their rubber is hard, which means less road-grip. Less road-grip means high fuel mileage and less tyre wear. Less Tyre wear means cost-saving and long-life. Ever wondered how these tyres can sometimes manage to last as much as 40,000 kms (not kidding). I for one, despite being happy with this thing ... is not really satisfied, which means i am also aiming for better quality (and tubeless) tyre. Have a look at the tyre mentioned on previous pages, that Michllen Street/Sport whatever it was. What i don't know ... is its availability and price in Pakistan ... and if installing a Tubeless Tyre will need a Rim Changing as well.

    - Reducing Tyre Pressure: It may sound ridiculous but its true. Even 1 or 2psi will make a lot of difference. Your current tyre pressure on rear is 40psi ... if you don't do pillion riding, then reduce it to 35, otherwise 38. Keep the front at 25psi at all times, not a single psi more (unless you do pillion). Remember, when i say pillion riding ... i am implying that you "always" ride with pillion. Another thing to note ... to inflate your tyres, if you use shops which deal with "Car Tyres" then make sure you DO NOT use their "Big Pressure Guage". It'll show you less value, when the actual value is significantly higher (because of high-pressure compartments they use, to faster fill-up car tyres). Use the smaller guage, like this one:
    Abobobilly's CG125 Thread - Its Evolution and Stuff I Changed - 08 0402


    I have been through these experiences so i completely understand your agony about Road Grip. High-Speed breaking is a MAJOR problem with this bike, and one of the reasons why i never over-speed on it, unless i am on an open road. I keep almost all the pressure on front breaking, with very little on the rear. Also, i have learned to use the "Engine Braking" in co-ordination with other Brakes, to have more effective breaking. But that needs me to keep mind 100% focused at all times, to be able to do that in Emergency situations (though not once did i succeed in that lol )
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    @r1! To answer your question about the difference between 2007 and later SOMO rims. Its the quality. 2007 bikes were still a much better built than the latter ones. It was after 2008-09 that it completely went downhill. Only its "chrome" is of good quality, which fools people into thinking that Rims are of good quality too. But they are just not.

    Wait till tomorrow morning. I'll post some pictures of my new Rims and old ones, and also the wires used inside rims (whatever you call them).

    @devilskreed! I hear ya brother. Btw, you can go ahead and install the Araya J or Union Rims because even if they are not of very best quality ... they are very much better than the stock ones. I can attest to this fact.
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    @r1 bro deflate the rear tire to 30psi. Oh man 40 is just too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyedMoazzam View Post
    @r1 bro deflate the rear tire to 30psi. Oh man 40 is just too much
    Its not GS150's 90/90/18 or 3.50-18 bro. Its 3.00-17 ... and 30psi is TOO LOW for it.
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    33 psi is recommended in my GS150 manual and on chain cover sticker, however, in summers i try to keep it at 30psi due to air expansion in hot summers and at 35 in winters

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