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    1. The Complete Story of Changing Rims on my CG125 for Perfect Alignment: @ Page 5 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...on#post4359405

    and

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-5#post4403891


    2. Engine Push Rods Changed to OLD CG125 Model, Japenese: @ Page 5 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-5#post4396649


    3. The Raam Kattha of Adjusting Alignment of CG125: @ Page 7 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-7#post4449978


    4. Locks Kit Purchased at 8th July, Now Fitted:@ Page 8, Post #159 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-8#post4464533

    5. Cylinder Head Seal Changed at 8th September 2014 to solve Tappet Cover Leak @ Page 8, Post#149 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-8#post4521260


    6. Panther Pacer Rear 3.00-17 Changed at 30th December 2014; Old Panther Power was faulty with misalignment @ Page 8, Post#156 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-8#post4650399


    7. Feeler Gauge & Valve Adjuster Bought from HYS, Brandreth Road; Page 9, Post#165 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...-9#post4666830


    8. Engine Works Done @ 39920; Page 10, Post#200 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...10#post4730453 w/ Pictures in Post#202 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...11#post4730459 ... and Post#203 -- https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...11#post4730462


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    Engine Oil Experiences

    Kixx Ultra 4T (2nd Bottle) - Odo Reading 34800 to 35811: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...56#post4340438

    Liqui Moly 4T (1st Bottle) - Odo Reading 35811 to 37082: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...56#post4340438
    ++ Also listed my (initial) reservations about LiquiMoly ++ : https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...63#post4507036

    Liqui Moly 4T (2nd Bottle) - Odo Reading 37082 to 38322: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...76#post4640291

    Back to Kixx Ultra 4T - @ Odo Reading 38322 to 39149: https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...76#post4640291

    Kixx Ultra 4T - @ Odo Reading 39149 to 39920 (Engine Work was coming up, so again got Kixx Ultra)

    Havoline - @ Odo Reading 39920 to [ongoing] (Engine Work was coming up, so again got Kixx Ultra)

    *A Test to find difference between expensive Liqui Moly vs. Cheaper Kixx Ultra*


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    CG125 Workshop Manual - Courtesy of our dear @r1
    Preview (Download for High Quality version): https://app.box.com/s/gl4rrv11kr3wd38xb0ph


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    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    You just mentioned tyre sizes. I guess rim sizes are front 1.40-18 and rear 1.60-17. right?
    Yep, you are correct. 1.4x18 is front, and 1.6x17 is rear.

    I always forget it so its easier for me to remember the tyre sizes. As i have come to know that for 2.50x18 and 2.75-18, one rim size will work i.e. 1.4x18.

    Quote Originally Posted by gull_s_777 View Post
    These rims seem quite pricier than SOMO rims.
    Still think SOMO rims are in 'very good quality'? These would be one of the shittiest rims these bike manufacturers use. And they are famous for only their chrome quality, which is comparitively better than the rest of locally manufactured rims. Locally manufactured will cost you just Rs.500 approx while a SOMO, just Rs.800 approx.

    I am not saying that Araya, Union and Takasago are the best we have because i'd still prefer 100% japenese rims. But i'd still prefer them over the stock ones.

    The reason for preferring Japenese is because i have seen them in action. A family member once crashed his GTO150 at the speeds of 40-50km/h ... and the front rim was like untouched. Not a single dent on it That was a Takasago real japenese rim. And guess what becomes of todays rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post
    As i have come to know that for 2.50x18 and 2.75-18, one rim size will work i.e. 1.4x18.
    Yes it works. Suzuki is using 1.4x18 for 2.75-18 tyre.
    But to me 1.4 rim is kind of small for anything bigger than 2.50.

    So i have 1.6x18 rim at front for 2.75-18 tyre.
    Deluxe and Piaggio also have same combo at front.

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    yes seems like its geniune brother.... as I see they have revised the Carb as well... Last year I saw this change in RP's Carb!
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    why CG 125 rear tyre is smaller then front tyre? in other bikes rear tyre is bigger or same in size
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    Yeah this change first came in deluxe and now in CG as well... may be they started to manufacture locally ?

    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Old Carburetor
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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini85 View Post
    why CG 125 rear tyre is smaller then front tyre? in other bikes rear tyre is bigger or same in size
    Its the stock size. Thats one of the reasons why CG125 is more agile in traffic, and many people like it because of its maneuverability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post
    Its the stock size. Thats one of the reasons why CG125 is more agile in traffic, and many people like it because of its maneuverability.
    Can we do this with other bikes? And. What are advantages of doing this

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    @vickytulla @hidalgo ! Brethren, is it possible to IMPORT a 100% bolt to bolt fit of a CG125 front, with Disk brake? Wo kon sa model tha jis main Disk Brake bhi aayi thi? I can't remember.

    Mera koi mood nai hay kisi kharadiye wagera k paas janay ka. I want to import a set, disassemble the front myself and just fit the new one.

    I am willing to pay extra for 100% Japenese maal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Yamaha YD125 Sport front will fit in CG classic bolt to bolt but the company is not in a mood to sale out the items

    Na kar
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    @r1! HAHA. That made me laugh good I never thought iss ka front bolt to bolt fit jo jaye ga. But man, iss ki quality bhi down ho gi. Main already bhugat raha hon AHL k ghatiya quality ka front.

    Dhondo kisi ko. Lets import it, from someone who knows this shizz.
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    u r in heaven of importers sir... cavalary ground main market men near bridge many importers offices are their and will import any thing for you... you can check them out.

    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post
    @r1! HAHA. That made me laugh good I never thought iss ka front bolt to bolt fit jo jaye ga. But man, iss ki quality bhi down ho gi. Main already bhugat raha hon AHL k ghatiya quality ka front.

    Dhondo kisi ko. Lets import it, from someone who knows this shizz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    u r in heaven of importers sir... cavalary ground main market men near bridge many importers offices are their and will import any thing for you... you can check them out.
    If i am not mistaken, they are going to charge a HEFTY amount of price for importing goods. And i am pretty sure if i import them myself, i just might get them cheaper. Either way, i'll have to FIND it first. I have no idea where to look.
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    brothers wo kehtay hain an k dhondanany say khuda bhi mil jata hai wo bilkul sach hai ... men bhi yehi samjhta tha that they will be a rip off ...

    but that is not quite true from every importer most of the time they are waiting for customers to arrive for book any shipment becuase they have to fill in there container to save shipment cost per item ..


    ye shock China say mil jien *** easily, and there are many Pak - CHina importer If you have my contact give me a call and I can share details not here.

    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Wo tou thek but which particular bike front will fit bolt to bolt without any alteration?

    Found this on ebay: 27 034 Front Fork Tubes for Honda CG125 CT90 CT110 Disc Brake Model Shock Absorbers | eBay
    Quote Originally Posted by abobobilly View Post
    If i am not mistaken, they are going to charge a HEFTY amount of price for importing goods. And i am pretty sure if i import them myself, i just might get them cheaper. Either way, i'll have to FIND it first. I have no idea where to look.
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    So as i have mentioned in the past, two issues which plagued my ride and messed up my mind greatly:
    1. My bike's Mis-Aligned Front
    2. Terrible performance of Front Shock Absorbers
    3. Wheel Alignment going out of order again & again.

    3rd Problem is solved by Changing the Rims to "Araya", which this thread is about.

    About the other issues, here it goes:


    July 5th, 2014

    I went to Khan Denter, Qasoor Poora, Lahore. Just like all the other denters, he blamed the issue 1 & 2 on my "Weham".

    Then i went to a famous Shock Absorbers person near Qusoor Poora (on the opposite side of Khan Denter), named "Mushtaq" ... who was the student of the famous "Hafiz Shocks Wala" near "Do moriya Pull".
    - He opened up the front, and checked the fork shafts in his Kharaad Machine. Shafts were badly misaligned.
    - He sent me a "Hydraulics Press Person" (besides Khan Denter), who tried to align it. Here is the picture:

    Abobobilly's CG125 Thread - Its Evolution and Stuff I Changed - oVocFN8


    RESULT? FAILED EXPERIMENT & WASTED RS.300 ... and a FULL BLOODY DAY (It was nearly 50C that day, with very hot sun shining bright + Roza ... go figure )


    July 7th, 2014

    I talked to my neighbor, who is a known CG125 Engine Modder, and a Kharadia. He opened up the front end, inspected the bike and told me following:
    - My fork shafts are just fine.
    - I should purchase the "Ainak" brand new (Stem Steering), along with Balls & Cups set for the handle.


    I went to Makhdoom Corporations, McLeod Road ... and bought:
    - Stem Steering for CG125, Genuine Atlas Honda @ Rs.650
    - "Sun" Balls & Cups Set, Japenese @ Rs.650 (for both)

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    I couldn't take a picture of the OLD Stem Steering, to show you the work of art, these Denters perform on these things. It was badly mis-aligned for both Left & Right side. Which was the main reason for Misaligned Front End, and front forks basically getting stuck again & again. (i was thinking that it was the forks all along, and was afraid to change the Stem Steering, thinking it would be too costly. But it was just Rs.650 )

    He also Re-did the shock absorbers, by putting in the STP Power Fluid (which i had purchased in the past). Now, the front tubes' hydraulics are also back up & running.


    RESULT? PERFECTO & Great Mental Satisfaction


    July 8th, 2014

    Front Wheel Bearings also went kaput, and were noticed later. Purchased Naachi Japan Front Wheel Bearings @ Rs.320, from Makhdoom Corporations, McLeod Road.


    Side Lock was broken since ages, and i was advised to change it. (Since my Ignition lock was also broken since 2-3 years, i was asked to get complete set including ALL the locks of bikes because Ignition+Side lock was worth Rs.650 ... and the whole set was just Rs.1350. So had to get those.

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    OLD Bearings, were also of Naachi.
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    RESULT? PERFECTO & Great Mental Satisfaction

    P.S. I still haven't changed the locks lol. Don't kill me please Just not getting enough time. But hopefully, i will get them changed tomorrow InShaALLAH.



    JUST ONE LAST THING LEFT TO DO:
    I am also asked to change the "Handle Bar" as well. Because apparently, Denters have totally messed up the alignment of it, and it has now become the handle bar of a old Yamaha YB100.


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    I hope it'd help those with similar problems.

    @r1! Finally, my front forks problems is solved.

    Though i still feel that on high speeds, bike is slightly mis-aligned but i guess thats because of the Rims, which need to be tightened. (Brand New rims' spokes need to be tightened after first fittings because they get loose after running a few hundred kms).
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    Bro believe me, itni apko nahi khushi hui hogi jitni mujhe hui ha ye jan kar k you're CG is finally according to your taste :-)

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    phew that was a long story but glad it ended well and ur ride is fine 'Finally' .... (Y)
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    Nice thread !! New Title though

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    That is one sesky tyre....

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    thread design is very very similar and alike to dunlop aeromax, I doubt some one added aeromax front tyre to CG rear (orignally made for CBR) but not sure... but it sure is a front tyre I think ...... its gona be badly unstable in corners...

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    @vickytulla @abobobilly Need help
    Brand name+size, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Anyway some serious updates going. It means you will keep CG for next 3-4 years.
    Kya updates bhai Ye updates nahi hay. "Rectification of Errors" hain :p

    But yeah, i don't sell my belongings. I use them until they die on me. That, and the fact that i am more of a "Problem Solver", instead of "Problem Evader". Thats the only reason my bike's alignment issues kept me worried all this time. If i were to "evade" these problems, i would've purchased these things way back then.

    This time, as i did find the fault (which was in Stem Steering), i didn't hesitate to change them.


    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    The Nachi bearings are just pathetic in quality, one of my friend installed in CG but after 3 months got broken.
    Actually no. They, along with the "SKF" (japenese) brand, are equally impressive. Fake copies are also available in the market, so its advised you buy from a trusted source. I hate Makhdoom Corp's prices, but i also admit the fact that those guys have 100% authentic products. (if they say, Japenese, it "will" be japenese --- btw, "Japenese Quality" may have been produced in Pakistan, but thats a separate discussion)

    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    What was the inner panel color of company fitted bearings?
    The company fitted ones are also "Naachi". You can see the last picture i have posted above.

    Here ... both of these are old ones, from the front wheel.
    Abobobilly's CG125 Thread - Its Evolution and Stuff I Changed - wOAbwGf

    These lasted me like 4+ years. Pretty good i'd say.


    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Btw did you read the Workshop Manual?
    Haven't even touched it yet Ramzan ki waja se short on time, so hardly sit infront of PC. The free time i get, i either sleep or lie down to do nothing


    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    4 din guzarnay do bhai zara. Phir pochain gey
    Ho gaye pooray. And i still say, bike now feels like brand new. I can still feel the bike is twitchy at high speeds, but i think that'd be because of:
    1. New rims need tightening (as mentioned in previous post)
    2. Handle bar is out of alignment (as mentioned in previous post, i was advised i should get it changed ASAP -- still haven't ... alongwith the locks Don't kill me please)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Knife View Post
    Nice thread !! New Title though
    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Err Thread Title changed lol, I was thinking damn how i missed this thread?
    I decided to turn this thread into something else, and decided to "record" all the things i have done with my bike. Thats why i got the title changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vickytulla View Post
    thread design is very very similar and alike to dunlop aeromax, I doubt some one added aeromax front tyre to CG rear (orignally made for CBR) but not sure... but it sure is a front tyre I think ...... its gona be badly unstable in corners...
    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Hmm just a fancy tyre with no grip at all.
    I have been brain storming to remember the brand of this tyre. I have actually seen this tyre in action, and very closely. A friend (wheeler+racer) had this tyre on his CG125 and i found this tyre to be very VERY impressive.

    Its very Grippy, and provides amazing traction on the road. But, this tyre would literally wear out in just 5000 kms. Plus, i don't quite remember the cost of this. Maybe it was 3 or 4k ... just can't remember anything (also can't ask that friend because ... well, we are not in touch anymore)

    I know because i have ridden with him dozens of times on his bike with this tyre. And being a rider and owner of a CG125 myself, i could clearly tell its performance while on the road. (we have evaded some nasty hard brakings as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1 View Post
    Okayhh! So here comes air filter cleaning. Since last week bike was knocking and screaming but wasn't achieving 60-70kms/hr. Finally opened and cleaned the air filter, now its pick and acceleration is much better and can achieve 80kms in 3rd gear
    ABAY Don't you clean your Air Filter soon? Thats like, you are cleaning this thing after 2000 or 3000 kms You live in relatively clean area, if i am not mistaken (i bet you it may not be as dusty as our Badami Bagh is ) But boy thats A LOT of dust.

    Anyway, good to see that you are doing it yourself. I have been doing it myself since ages. Tappet Adjustments, i don't mess with, and i get it done from outside after 5 or 10k kms ... or whenever i feel the bike is losing power or top-end.

    I usually clean the air filter at every oil change (mostly after 1000kms), but sometimes when i feel i have ridden in more dusty areas (which is a lot), i clean it just after 600kms.

    If you don't clean your Air Filter at right time, not only you'll get poor fuel average, but engine oil will also wear out quicker. So "regularly" clean your air filter.

    Also, i need to ask you. How much Petrol do you use to clean your Air Filter? Because it looks like you barely use any. I wonder how do you really clean it then when all you have to do is "Dip & Squeeze Out". That needs approx 0.25 Liters of Petrol.
    Riders on the storm ... literally.

  34. 18-07-2014, 10:07 AM
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