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    Lightbulb CG125 Euro 2 vs Non Euro 2

    Now there is a lot of debate on this forum that whether to go for Euro 2 or Non Euro 2, or which one is better.
    Here are a few misconceptions which exist.

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    1) Push rod design is changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    euro II vibrates lesser bcoz of new push rod design not due to it will be new


    cg125 euro 2 vs non euro 2 -1467914
    Although the above picture only shows the change of tappet covers the truth is no the pushrods are not changed, the only reason for changing the cover was to adjust crank case emission control system.
    CG125 Euro 2 vs Non Euro 2 -1518921

    As posted by @abobobillythe push rod design was changed in 2003 when they switched from Japanese to local ones

    CG125 Euro 2 vs Non Euro 2 -1518922

    Picture taken by @abobobilly the thinner being the current ones (my CG2011, and CG2014 has them) and the thicker being old Japanese ones.

    Secondly another marketing tactic by Atlas is "NEW ROCKER ARM DESIGN"

    Quote Originally Posted by racerali View Post
    These Also Cause less Vibration

    CG125 Euro 2 vs Non Euro 2 - honda 125 new model engine

    CG125 Euro 2 vs Non Euro 2 - euro 2 honda 125 classic engine

    In my Opinion Go for Euro II
    Well unfortunately this isn't true as well the picture below is of rocker arm's of CG125 1984 model (Workshop manual)

    CG125 Euro 2 vs Non Euro 2 -1518923

    Spot the differnce cuz i couldn't cuz there isn't any

    So people there is no way a Euro 2 is technically more advance that non Euro 2 apart from ofcourse the Emission control system which basically makes it Euro 2 (and was a majburi of Honda). Euro 2's might be better due to being new but one also has to consider the decrease in standards compared to previous years.

    So which one is better ? I leave that decision up to you.

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    there is surly power,sound,avg difference in both even if the power,economy difference is due to ASV device in euro 2 what is the reason of sound difference ???? I am sure that the rocker arm design,cam gear is a bit different in both

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    there is surly power,sound difference i
    Who said Euro 2 had more power ? Did Honda claimed that previous models had less bhp and the newer ones had more ?
    These are all misconceptions spread by the people.

    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    even if the power,economy difference is due to ASV device in euro 2
    Please do explain how power and economy is improved by removing the harmful gases from the crank case ?

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    what is the reason of sound difference ????
    Remove the genuine silencer and add windor one and tell me if there is a sound difference or not.

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    I am sure that the rocker arm design,cam gear is a bit different in both
    I have already proved this above that rocker arm is same so i wouldn't be banging my head into the wall any more.
    Try to prove your claims by giving technical evidence and stop getting fooled by what people have to say and for that matter even Honda themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaudhary007 View Post
    Who said Euro 2 had more power ? Did Honda claimed that previous models had less bhp and the newer ones had more ?
    These are all misconceptions spread by the people.



    Please do explain how power and economy is improved by removing the harmful gases from the crank case ?



    Remove the genuine silencer and add windor one and tell me if there is a sound difference or not.



    I have already proved this above that rocker arm is same so i wouldn't be banging my head into the wall any more.
    Try to prove your claims by giving technical evidence and stop getting fooled by what people have to say and for that matter even Honda themselves.
    first I didn't said euro 2 has more power second economy is a bit better in euro2 not much but a bit better and bro I have 100% sure euro 2 vibrates less than previous and I have seen euro with fully chromed exhaust producing same sound

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    Here is another key difference you guys are ignoring:
    CG125 Euro 2 vs Non Euro 2 - honda 125 new model enginehead

    This is the reason for:
    - Less vibrations as compared to previous models
    - More 'free' feeling in engine, when on high RPMs
    - Slightly less engine break as compared to previous models, because engine comes back at lower RPMs slower than before.

    There is no power difference. The component change did make the engine a bit more ... say, FRESH. Otherwise, its the same thing as before. This isn't a real reason to go with this newer design. If you want less vibrations and same feel of Euro 2 ... you can Rebuild your current CG125's engine with Euro2's Rockers and you'll get pretty much the same feeling.
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    i dont feel any difference in sound. jin k pass old models properly tuned and maintained hain they produce the same sound. have seen many 2012 models like that. new bike hoti hai iss liye sound aisa feel hota hai as far as i think warna no difference.
    people need to grow up sometimes and act MATURE !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadoon1992_vxlimited View Post
    i dont feel any difference in sound. jin k pass old models properly tuned and maintained hain they produce the same sound. have seen many 2012 models like that. new bike hoti hai iss liye sound aisa feel hota hai as far as i think warna no difference.
    bro there is difference in sound I know it becoz owned euro2 and currently using non euro the power,economy,vibration all are different euro 2 vibrate less,sound is cripy, and is less power full compared to non euro

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    bro there is difference in sound I know it becoz owned euro2 and currently using non euro the power,economy,vibration all are different euro 2 vibrate less,sound is cripy, and is less power full compared to non euro
    because euro 2012 mai aya tha and ap ka non euro 2003 hai tou what do you expect from a 11 years old ride to give the same sound as of a brand new bike? the clutch plates, the engine, pta nhe kitne thousand kms chala hua hoga tb he tou bikes punjab se karachi atay hain. how can you compare both of them having 11 years difference? bro compare a 2012 euro and non euro of the same condition.
    people need to grow up sometimes and act MATURE !

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    There is a slight difference in sound. my cousin just bought brand new and my friend has 2011 the both sounds different. i know you guys would say its brand new and will change its sound after few thousand kilometers but sadly its not true new one has different sound than the old one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suzukialtomehran View Post
    There is a slight difference in sound. my cousin just bought brand new and my friend has 2011 the both sounds different. i know you guys would say its brand new and will change its sound after few thousand kilometers but sadly its not true new one has different sound than the old one.
    I have CG125 2001 and since 2 years i use to change exhaust after 1 years and whenever i change exhaust to new one it gives zero meter sound and riding become more lively due to new exhaust. I use to tune my bike by self except engine work. Because the lesser you go to mechanic the less your bike becomes faulty. Just take good care of engine oil and always use fuel system cleaners from STP or ABRO, i have used it many times and it cleans fuel system and clean carburetor and restore lost HP

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