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    well guys there have been so much threads here on this topic, so a noble thought came to my mind tht i should make a STICKY thread which should discuss each and everything of SPRINTER and ECO...

    so ALL STORIES GO HERE and plz dont bother to make any other thread....
    thnx...
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    @ dawudi
    i didnt do that comparison
    that was performed by mon2006
    ok? bro
    oh yes
    now there is time for monopoly breaking
    hahahaha
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    @dawudi
    yar both bikes were on their economy speed
    cd on 40
    eco in b\w 50 to 60
    i m one of those bad things which happen to good people.

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    This day i spent some time at suzuki murree to get first tuning of eco.There I met a guy with gs 150 he told me that the bike,s performance is well but he is victim of bad luck cause his bike had some manufacturing faults. Engine oil was leaking and the gear pedal wasnt functioning suddenly. Another eco owner came there also for the first tuning he told me that he had run at max45kmph he shocked me by telling that the average he was getting was 40kmph.
    @xtri
    You have confused me by telling me about the gear ratio. I discussed it there with the mechanic at suzuki service and with ohter people. They said that if you do this you would destroy the bike nothing else. Even they went on saying that some one is trying to cheat you. Bt I believe we all here are serious people, I was taking your suggestions seriously but now i m confused what is right or wrong.
    I would welcome the opinion in this matter from the friends around , at this thread.

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    @ seagoat!!

    well yaar abt teh mileage thing...yaar i dont believe this rubbish...i mean make some sense...company paagal hai jo 73km/liter k laaray lagaa rahee hai??thtz impossible..

    and abt teh gear ratios...i alrdy told u tht these were those gear ratios which i used on my SPRINTER after first tuning..i dont know abt ECO...the mechanics know better than me...may b theres some engine difference between these too...laikin aik kaam zaroor kerna bro...stop some SPRINTER user (not ECO) and ask him where does his bike go in 2nd gear max? he'll tell u tht it goes to 80kmph...and i personally take it ti 80 in 2nd gear quite often...

    but i think aap mairee gear ratios pe na chalaana...consult it with max ppl u can..okay? coz im not xpert in ECO..i have operated SPRINTER only..
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    well here are some pix of my QUEENS...

    sorry for the first pic...actually it was without NIGHT MODE..

    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006te7
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    lol@ gear ratios you mentioned,for a moment I thought Im reading a post about CG.125 or above category bike.
    This is called MESSING THE BIKE,bhai these bikes are made for "fuel economy at its best",never handle them like racing bikes.
    n about the gear ratios you mentioned,any bike in this category of any brand will give poor fuel economy with its engine couting its last days.
    thanx
    Valle!! the great with his YZRM1 looks more coool!

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    @ SEAGOT
    yaar
    ok?
    this is 1's own choice,
    this wat xtre tried 2 make his bike KHULI
    lolz
    ok, some people hav the view that some times v must use the vehicles roughly, so that they must know their capacity,
    otherwise that was a suggestion
    not any tough instruction, ok?

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    o pra g HATH HOLAY RAKHO.
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    sorry yesterday my net wasnt working during RAIn...so coudnt post pix...here they r....


    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006001ha9

    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006002nw8

    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006003dn4

    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006004rm3

    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006005pj5

    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006006lv4

    Suzuki Sprinter / Sprinter ECO - 10122006007ng1
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    @ air explorer and all!

    thers nothing wrong agar aap bike ko khainchoo....
    ask some ver very good mechanic and he'll tell u better tht bike ko khainchnay main koi nuksaan nahi hai...
    if u want better performance, (new bike), no matter if its even a 70cc engine...then u must rev it up to its max gear ratios...haan it will consume petrol but after reving it for a period, u'll notice the performance gain...

    and agar kisseee ko meree gear ratios pe aitraaz ho to plz meet me....and i'll show tht my bike goes to 80kmph in 2nd gear...

    @ seagoat!

    yaar bro consult other ECO owners abt its gear ratios...but main aap ko kahoon ga k at least 1 dafa zaroor check keroo k where does your bike go in 2nd gera max?? im sure it'll do at least 70kmph.
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    @ xtri


    "Kahin eco ko mairay hathoon marwa na daina"

    I shall try to improve the gear ratio gradually but not by sudden jumping.
    I started to 4th gear around 40kmph but now i change to 4th at 60kmph n gradually i shall try to improve. Consequently the overall gear ratio will be getting better.

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    @ seagoat!

    well bhai jaan itna bhi kacha engine nahi hai suzuki ka...
    wuts the max u have achieved till now?
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    Nice Bikes Extremist The meter of your bike is manufactured by same company that makes them for Honda :p

    Discusion was goin on about the break in or running so here are the details thats how u should do it.. read it carefuly. This guy knows a lot about bikes :p

    New Engine Break-In



    Any rebuilt or new engine has to go through a break in process. Each piece of moving metal must get to know and fit with the piece of metal it is moving against. Usually, the manufacturers put a sticker on the speedometer or tachometer telling you to take it easy for 600 miles or so. Your buddy says "If you want to run it hard, break it in hard." As you might expect, the truth is not on the right hand or the left but, in the center.

    The problem is this. All this rubbing produces heat, which can cause oil to fail, which can cause a piston to seize to a cylinder wall. On the other hand, if there is not enough rubbing, the piston rings will not seat right with the cylinder walls. If this happens the engine will not reach it's full power potential. If the only new parts are piston and rings, as in an engine rebuild, we only have to worry about heat build up from the new parts. If the entire engine is new, the heat built up is even greater, because all the parts are new.

    Yes, it is true that we have much better machining and quality control on new motorcycle engines, then we did in the past but, moving parts still have to wear in. If you have better, harder metal, it will take longer then if you have poorer, softer metal. Years ago I decided to bore my BMW motorcycle to the first oversize. After a hundred miles of break-in I started to ride normally, which is to say FAST ! Well, the bike just was not running right. I re-jetted the carb and it started to run OK. Another hundred miles passed and I had to rejet again. This went on for over one thousand miles. After the last re-jetting I realized I had just put the stock jets back in ! It took better then 1100 miles for those rings to break-in. The steel used in BMW motorcycles is very hard !

    On one hand, if you run the bike too easy, you run the risk of the cylinder walls glazing over and then, maybe, never seating properly. On the other hand, if you run the bike too hard, you run the risk of engine seizure. I suspect, that even if you do glaze the cylinder walls over, if your run the engine hard enough and long enough, the rings will seat. However, this may take a thousand miles, or more, to do.

    So what's a biker to do ? Well, a compromise is in order. This is what I do with a freshly rebuilt engine. It will work on new engines too. On a straight, deserted road, I put the bike in second or third gear and accelerate with wide open throttle to about one or two thousand RPM BELOW red line. I then shut the throttle and coast down, in gear, to two thousand RPM or so. I then do it again. I do this about ten times. Then I ride around for a while at an easy pace. I do this several times, if possible. This seats the rings without overheating the engine.

    I would continue to do this during the entire break-in period. If you are doing any freeway riding. That is, running long periods of time at a steady throttle setting. I would also add this. Shut the throttle off and then on again, very quickly, every three or four miles. This tends to draw more oil up on the bottom of the pistons, lubing and cooling them. On a freshly rebuilt engine, I like to change the oil and filter at about two hundred miles and then every thousand miles thereafter. On a totally new engine, I change the oil and filter at one hundred fifty miles, three hundred miles, six hundred miles and twelve hundred miles. After that, change the oil and filter every one thousand miles.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    @ vakas
    kher hai bhai
    itna lamba lecture kis k wastay
    kis ki class ho rahi hai ?
    xtre ki?
    lolz

    @ xtre
    oe paai agar teri sprinter anay wadday gear laandi a tay saday naal race kyun na keeta ?
    hahahaha
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    @ vaqas!

    very well post bbro...

    @ malikG!

    lol...but yes thts true...it goes to 80 in 2nd...nahi paayee tusee tay ghusa hee ker gayay...kahaan aap kee 150 aur kahaan mairee nanhee see 110
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    @all
    yar there is notnihng wrong wid the gear ratio
    of xtremist bike.i think it must go upto 80 in
    2nd becoz if my honda cd 70 can go 60 in 2nd than
    it must go 80 in 2nd.but all you needed is some
    courage to do this becoz in this condition bike seems
    to be going to hell.lol
    i m one of those bad things which happen to good people.

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    Well Because we dont have RPM meter in ECO it might go up to 80 but this will also effect engine's life bcoz once u hit max of the engine or red area on RPM the engine starts to damage

    I m sure you want good life out of your engine so run ur bike as smooth as u can otherwise :p
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    yeh...i also think absence of RPM meter is a drawback of SPRINTER....it has the power and big gear ratios as well...dont know y didnt they give RPM in it
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    I went upto 45kmph in 2nd gear n upto 65 in third.Max speed today i achieved was 90kmph.
    Bike has covered more than 1200km

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    Yesterday i tried higher gear ratio on my 70 haha :p went up to 60 in 2nd gear easily and upto 75 in 3rd in 4th it was not going above 90 wanted more road and time but i reached home by then..
    Here is a little Information about Sprinter's Carburator even though we all might say its good let me tell you its an carb that is not used much in world anymore details u can see below..

    Pumper carbs, also called Diaphragm or Pressure Pulse Carburetors, are used primarily on chain saws, weed eaters and other small engines. The unique thing about pumper carbs is that they can work in any position because they have no float bowel and they do have a fuel pump. This is handy for an engine that is used in a lot of different positions, like a chain saw. They were used a lot on Go-Kart engines too.

    Pumper carbs were also used a lot in snowmobiles in the 1960s and 70s, but have now been pretty much fazed out and replaced by regular float bowel carbs. I have never seen one on a stock motorcycle but I have seen people use them as a replacement carb. In 1969-1971 I ran across a number of articles in several different motorcycle magazines about adapting a pumper carb to a motorcycle. The people writing these articles felt there were many advantages to these carbs, especially when used to replace the British Amal carbs used on Triumphs and BSAs. Apparently no one else did, because you just don't hear of anyone using them on motorcycle engines anymore.

    The reason they liked pumper carbs is this. Float bowel carbs use a venturi, a narrowing of the carb throat, to create a vacuum above the main and idle jet openings in the carb throat. This sucks fuel out of the float bowel and mixes it with air. The pumper carb uses a fuel pump to push the fuel through the jet passages and into the throat of the carb, to mix with the air. The pumper carb, they said, has no venturi and is straight all the way through. The fuel pump on the pumper carb can really push through the fuel to a fuel hungery engine. This made for easier starting and better mid-range performance. Plus, because of the hi and low speed adjustment needles, you can easily tune the carb for your particular engine.

    That's the theory, anyway. However, I see a venturi in all the pumper carbs ! The way I understand it, the pumper carb uses the vacuum at the venturi to control when the fuel, under pressure, enters the carb throat. The float bowel carb uses the vacuum in the venturi to suck the fuel from the float bowel up into the carb throat.

    If you really want to play with one I imagine You could still get them as I think they are still used in two stroke Ultra-Light airplane engines. You will have to run a line from the intake manifold, crankcase, or exhaust pipe to get a vacuum pulse to run the pump. Also, you must prime the engine when you first start it, to get the pump going. After that, you start it normally, with the choke. A fuel return line, from the carb to the fuel tank, may be needed too. I've never run one on a motorcycle, just snowmobiles, chain saws and weed eaters. Now-a-days I make every effort to avoid working on them at all !

    They were made by McCulloch (out of busness), Tillotson, and Walbro.

    You adjust them by running them at full throttle and turning the high speed needle in and out till it runs best. Same for the idle. Let it idle and turn the slow speed needle in and out till it runs it's best. The high and low speed needle adjustments will effect each other a bit. In other words, richen the low speed and it will also richen the high speed just a bit, and visa versa. A lot of the newer pumper carbs don't have an adjustable high speed jet, but a fixed one. Big brother wants us to buy a new engine, not make the old one run better !

    Pumper carbs seem to have one rather major problem, sort of. You never know if the carb you rebuild will work ! You can only rebuild them once or twice or so. As far as I can tell, something breaks down internally. Once this happens, they just will not adjust right. One Lumber Jack told me he only rebuilds the carb on his #1 working chain saw twice then he tosses the carb and buys a new one. I think he has the right idea. Trouble is there are a bizzilon different sizes and types. If you have a bunch of carbs in stock you can throw one on and away you go. However, if you don't, you end up buying a carb kit... it doesn't work, and then you buy a carb. This isn't so bad with a $60.00 carb, but with a $150.00 snowmobile carb (times two !) things can get out of hand, plus you're out the cost of a rebuild kit.

    I once pulled out all the stops, trying to make one of these carbs, off a snowmobile, work. I pulled out all the Welsh plugs and everything. I carefully cleaned and cleaned and cleaned. It just would not work. Everything looked great, I used all new parts but, it would not adjust right. Engine ran lousy, and yes, I checked seals, ignition timing, compression... everything. The problem was those lousy carbs ! I even called the pumper carb manufacturer. Took forever to finally get to the department that designed the carb. I actually talked to a guy who claimed to be one of the people who designed the carb in question. After talking with him for a few minutes it slowly dawned on me that this guy didn't know squat.

    I had told the customer he needed new carbs, but he kept saying "try to make the old ones work." He said to stop at $100.00 of labor. Well, I charged him the $100 but I put in about $400 worth of labor... and nothing worked ! Just like I said it would. No one ever listens.
    OK... I give up !

    In the hopes that maybe you will fair better then I, here is a reprint of some literature I got from Walbro Carbs. This pumper carb is off a is off a small chain saw engine. You will notice this one DOES have a venturi. Then there is some literature on a Tillotson Carb carb off a snowmobile engine. This one has a venturi too.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    @ xtre y don u come there at gs topic haaan ?
    i m angry

    ok bro y don u get a gs now ?
    or after some time haan?
    lets xchange w ur sprinter ok?
    lolz
    give me some money n ur black (newer 1 )
    lolz
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