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    Default New rider and Bike for 2007

    AoA Brothers,
    I have just moved to Pakistan and I cannot get anywhere without bike/car.
    My sister and parents are always using the car so I find the need to purchase a motorcycle.

    I read some threads and I am looking for a low-end bike within the range of 50,000-60,000.
    I DONT KNOW how to RIDE A MOTORCYCLE. I have never ridden one before. I can drive a stick shift car.
    My weight is around 100 KG so how many (cc) is recommended?
    On threads I see extremst and other people say SUZUKI SPRINTER is a good bike. It is also 50,0000?

    How much differnet is suzuki 125 and what is price range?

    Please keep in mind I know NOTHING about MOTORCYCLES and this will be my first motorcycle. I want to learn how to ride and get to my academy and back.

    Many thanks in advance.

    P.S Please give any tips or suggestions you think are useful.

    Also, I live in LAHORE so traffic is very bad. Just to keep in mind.

    Allah Hafiz

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    Wa Alaikum Salam and welcome to pakwheels.

    No doubt that a bike is best ride within lahore. I think Suzuki sprinter ECO will be the best option for you as far as ur budget is concerned. (Suzuki 125 costs around 72,000) your weight will be no problem. A 100 or 110 CC will carry you efficiently where ever you want to go. And i am sure many will be ready to give you on the spot assistance about riding a bike. (provided that atleast you know how to ride a bicycle

    And i would take this ocassion to invite you to join lahore bikers club.

    take care
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    Thank you for your reply Adil.

    I read that Sprinter is better then Sprinter ECO? Can someone confirm this? Also, any suzuki showrooms in Lahore?

    And yes, I can ride a bicycle.

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    Well the people who use these brands do say that there is minor difference, to check it out you may go to the thread suzuki sprinter and eco.

    There are lots of showrooms in lahore i recommend that when you go to purchase a bike you take someone with you who know these bikes so that he may check the bike. I am sure there will be a lot of people to help you in this regard in the above mentioned thread.
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    @ drblak

    i'd strongly recommend to buy a Sprinter....not ECO...not becuase i dont like it or theres something wrong with the bike, because i have SPRINTER and i think its a better buy....theres just 5k difference in the prices of ECO and Sprinter....ECO costs Rs 49800 and Sprinter 54800....

    btw where do u live in lahore?? i say go to the suzuki showroom at CHINA CHOWK....

    for more information on these bikes, please visit the following link....
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply_az_TopicID!33993~ForumID!22~pw.html
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    and one thing more....if u can add a little more to ur budget, u can get a SUZUKI GS 125....its a 5 speed bike and very comfortable...i am saying this coz this bike will perform good regarding ur weight...as ADIL bhai said the bike costs Rs 72000 but if u ask them for discount, they can give it to u for 68000Rs (dpending on the bargain)....thats the price my friend got almost 6 months back for his GS....

    if u get GS, well and good but if u get Sprinter, its still great....

    and dont worry abt this at all that u have never driven a bike and its ur first time....its just a day or two which will be LEARNING DAYS for ur career, after that, u'll be having no problems at all INSHALLAH....biking , infact is one of the most easiest jobs on the planet
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    Well if ur goin to learn riding a bike than ur going to ride in lahore just be very careful and make sure u learn it very well than come on road bcoz lahori trafic or any big city trafic in pakistan the people in cars or other vehicles they dun give any respect to bikes/cycles..

    Anyways my only concern with sprinter is the rear fender as we have complains of the fender hitting the tire as we put more weight on the bike other than that its a good bike for any new rider.

    Look at different bikes and chose the one you like..
    my sugestions will be..

    1 - Suzuki Sprinter

    2- Yamaha Junoon

    3 - Honda CG 125 ( I know its a bit expensive)

    4 - Suzuki GS 125.

    these all are gud.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    @drblak

    I said "I DONT KNOW how to RIDE A MOTORCYCLE.I have never ridden one before"

    r u going to hire a DRIVER after buying the bike to ride it??
    or as in punjabi, bika ka AMB layna hai agar chalani nahi aati tou

    @all

    Please read his post before replying..thanx
    Qaiser Pal,I have not failed.But found 1 of 10,000 ways which doesn't work.....Toyota driver "I couldn't repair my brakes,so i made my horn louder"..When i was born i was so surprised that i didn't talked to one and half year..since light travel faster then sound,people appear bright until you hear them speak..If u can't convince them,confuse them

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    Thanks for the input. I will defenitly keep the GS125 in mind as it might be a better investment. What is the fuel consumption difference between a sprinter and a GS125? Is it a differnece of 10kmpl(nominal) or a big difference? I will check out the suzuki showcase in chinachowk xtremist, thanks for the suggestion. As far as learning, just about all my relatives have a motorcycle and can teach me.
    Also, what is 5 speed transmission? Does that mean I can reach higher speeds and allot faster?

    Also, I heard it gets VERY HOT in Lahore during the SUMMER TIME, are you guys able to ride motorcycles just fine?

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    @ drblak

    my friend says that he is getting 45-50 km/l from his 125 (GS)....while sprinter does 60-65 km/liter....so theres almost a 15 kmpl difference between these two...
    but i'd still recommend go for GS....and 5 SPEED means it has 5 gears which other bikes dont have (in pakistan)...it will give u more smoother ride with more grip than sprinter...
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    I am afraid that I will mess up the GS125 because it will be my first bike. When I first learned how to ride a car in PAKISTAN, there was allot of damage done. So I think Sprinter will be best to learn how to ride it and shifting gears, how to take care of it, stuff like that. Once I get the hang of it, I can sell it for a better bike like the GS150 or honda 150.

    What is your opinion, do you think an inexperienced rider can wreck a bike so should get a less expensive bike first to test everything?

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    Drblack in that case get some bike which is good on resale value and thats no other than Honda 70. once you get a hang on it u can easily shift to a more powerful bike. Sprinter and all other 100 or 110 CC bikes available in our market will not be too good with their resale.
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    Dont think a HONDA 70CC can handle my weight, minimum I am looking is 100CC. I think Sprinter is good, and I am looking to keep it 1-2 years, then move on to heavy bike (Insallah).

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    in that case its fine...

    but consider another fact... a bike usually dont get hammered like a car, and its easy and cheap to resotre ur bike. And if you use it carefully i am sure you wont be doing it much damage. So why go for a sprinter ? And as far as GS 125 is concerned... i would advise not to go for it if you can climb as far as 72 ks y dont you get a GS 150?

    How to convert your GS 125 budget into a GS 150 budget i can be of some help. Wanna keep in touch? its adil_dar@hotmail.com and i am online from morning 09 to evening 05
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    I will contact you shortly, but also please tell the differnece between a GS125 and GS150 in terms of price. Others bikers could benefit from this information.

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    the difference is only three rhousand Rs.

    if you are not concerned about milage then you should get that GS series or a bike above 100 CC.

    Coz within city GS 150 goes 40 to 42 in a litre, provided that you are driving really smooth. And if you are driving agressively its milage may go down to 36 - 38 PL. As far as GS 125 is concerned i dont think it will give you more than 50 KMPL

    Although a minor difference in price GS 150 is a monster in performance. And have many plus points u can view these in detail in GS 150 and 125 thread.

    Plz note that Honda is not offering a 150 CC bike in pk
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    @ drblak

    for ur convenience , i am posting the speicifications of Sprinter , GS 125 and GS 150 here....

    Sprinter:-

    Engine Type 4 Stroke, Air Cooled, Single Cylinder, OHC
    Displacement 109 cm3
    Bore x Stroke 53.5mm x 48.8mm
    Compression ratio 9.6 : 1
    Carburettor MIKUNI BS22, Single
    Starter System Kick
    Transmisson 4 Speed Constant
    Air cleaner Polyuretnane foam emelent
    Cluctch Wet Multi Plate type
    Primary Reduction 3.666 (77/21)
    Final Reduction 2.500 (35/14)
    Idle Speed 1,500 -+100r/min
    Frame Type Sigle Backbone
    Drive Chain 428, 102 links
    Caster Trail 26/67 mm
    Suspension Front Telescopic coil spring, oil damped
    Suspension Rear Swinging arm coilspring
    Brake Front drum
    rear drum
    Overall length 1,900mm
    Overall width 755mm
    Overall height 1050mm
    Wheelbase 1225mm
    Ground Clearance 165mm
    Dry Mass 119KG
    Tire front 2.50 -6PR tube
    Tire rear 2.75 - 6PR tube
    Fuel Tank 10.5 Litre
    Ignition type Electronic Ignition (CDI)
    Ignition timing 10 BTDC at 1,500 rpm
    Dry Weight 91kg
    Battery 12v9



    GS 125:-


    Engine Type 4 Stroke Air Cooled, OHC
    Bore 57mm (2.24 in)
    Stroke 48.8mm (1.921 in)
    Compression ratio 9.3 : 1
    Starter System Kick
    Transmisson 5 Speed Constant Mesh
    Overall length 1945mm (76.6 in)
    Overall width 780mm (30.7 in)
    Overall height 1035mm (40.7 in)
    Wheelbase 1270mm (50 in)
    Ground Clearance 170mm (6.7 in)
    Dry Mass 115 KG
    Tire front 2.75 -1B 42p
    Tire rear 3.00 - 1B 47p
    Fuel Tank 12 Litre
    Drive Chain RK428 FDZ, 116 links
    Battery 12v, 14.4KC
    Front Suspention Telescopic, Coil Spring, Oil damped
    Rear Suspention Swing arm, Coil Spring, Oil damped
    Head Light 12V 35/35 W
    Brake Light 12V 21/5 W



    GS 150:-


    Engine Type 4 Stroke Air Cooled, OHC
    Bore 57mm (2.24 in)
    Stroke 56.8mm (2.36 in)
    Starter System Electric & kIck
    Transmisson 5 Speed Constant mesh
    Overall length 2005mm
    Overall width 785mm
    Overall height 1065mm
    Wheelbase 1270mm
    Ground Clearance 165mm
    number of cylinders 1
    Dry Mass 119KG
    Tire front 2.75 -18 42p
    Tire rear 3.00 - 18 47p
    Fuel Tank 12 Litre (3.2/2.6 US imp gal)
    Drive Chain RK428 FDZ
    Ignition type Electronic Ignition CDI
    Battery 12v
    Front Brake Drum Brake
    Rear Brake Drum Brake



    the mileage difference between GS 125 and GS 150 can be almost 10kmpl....yaar 150cc might be more than anuff for a beginner like you....GS 125 will give u the rquired speed/acceleration, with a 5 speed transmission for smooth ride, better mileage....
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    Thanks for the info..I will go to a suzuki showroom sometime within the next two weeks..I'll let you guys know which motorcycle I bought and hopefully get some pictures up here!

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    Dr Blak

    do leave a message on LBC before going to purchase a bike, we might be helpful in getting you discount. and if you have someone who have promised you dis on a specific model its ok then.
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