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    BAJAJ PULSAR 220 C.C. DTSFI:

    Bajaj has released its newer version of pulsar 220cc. Highly extremed torque power, with 20bhp. All more with new style and classy look

    bajaj-pulsar-dts-fi-220-cc-motorcycle.jpg
    Bajaj’s Pulsar DTS-Fi 220cc motorcycle priced at around Rs 85,000.

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    The Bajaj Pulsar DTS-Fi is expected to touch a top speed of 135kph. That is an excellent top speed in Indian conditions, probably matched only by the Kinetic Aquila - which anyway is not available in India now.

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    What’s hot with 220cc pulsar?

    The most important feature of all is the fuel injection mechanism, which is responsible for the quick throttle and the linear power curve. The Bajaj Pulsar DTS-Fi is the first Indian motorcycle with an oil cooled engine. Together, they make for a potent combination. The Hero Honda Karizma as well as the Pulsar DTS-Fi weigh 150 kgs, and the extra 3 bhp of the DTS-Fi as well as the power delivery characteristics make this an easy Karizma-beater.

    PS: Enjoy the passion of riding in pulsar 220cc.


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    what went wrong with the pics?
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    This is the Bajaj pulsar 150-dtsi .. the most prefered bike among college goers.

    Technical Specifications
    Engine 4 Stroke, Single Cylinder, Air Cooled
    Cubic Capacity 143.9cc
    Max. Power 12 BHP @ 8500rpm
    Gear Box 5 Speed
    Ignition CDI
    Front Brakes 240mm Disc
    Rear Brakes 130mm Drum
    Front Tyre 2.75 X 18
    Rear Tyre 100/90 X 18
    Wheelbase 1265mm
    Ground Clearance 155mm
    Dry Weight 132 Kg
    Tank Capacity 18 Litres
    Colours Black, Silver, Blue & Red

    Availabe in following option
    a) Kick Start
    b) Electric Start

    Sorry internet was down for few minutes..hence could not post more.

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    BAJAJ DISCOVER DTSI :

    I own this machine, and i absolutely love the way this bike handles in the city.Been on this bike on long distances of upto 500kms in a single day average speed 90kmph and no problems at all..costed INR-1.00 PER KM for the trip.
    Superb engine....

    OUTLINE OF THE BIKE:

    Bajaj Discover DTSi is a 125 cc bike that is far ahead of other bikes in its segment. It is equipped with world first 125cc DTSi engine which gives best in class power of 8.47kW (11.51Ps). The DTSi - Digital Twin Spark ignition technology leads to optimum combustion and phenomenal performance augmentation.

    Bajaj Discover DTSi produces a maximum torque of 10.8 Nm at 6500 rpm. The strong torque spread of Bajaj Discover results in an absolute linear delivery. Bajaj Discover DTSi has an excellent pick up and is miles a head of its peer group on this front. It zooms from zero to 60 kmph in 6.37 seconds and from zero to 100 kmph in 20.09 seconds.

    The long wheelbase and the optimized weight distribution of Bajaj Discover DTSi results in right balance and poise. Bajaj Discover has a telescopic front suspension of 31 mm diameter with antifriction bushes and the longest travel in its class of 135 mm. It has world first SNS (Spring-in-Spring) Rear suspension with triple springs also the longest travel in its class of 110 mm. Both the front and rear suspensions aid in comfortable ride.

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    good looking bikes, specially the 150 one, but they are of no use to us as they are not available here.

    Till something similar becomes available in pakistan, my Honda CG125Deluxe Rocks

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    nice and wellcome at pakwheels.com
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    yara..can i import a bike frm india..?
    and plz lemme knw bout XCD 125
    nd price,millage,way 2 bring..ova here...
    plz..images k saath plz
    beauty creates distances,so remain bumper 2 bumper when a beauty is drivin next 2 u

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    @shanii123-Impossible right now as no such trade agreement exists btw India and yours.

    Bajaj XCD 125-http://bajajxcd.blogspot.com/

    Try this for better pictures
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    NICE BIKES !
    drive safe!

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    Though I have not completed all the bikes from the Bajaj department, I have managed to put in the major bikes (best selling) bikes from bajaj.The XCD is what i was going to post but as it is now posted by one of our friends, i will like to move on to Honda bikes.

    Starting with honda shine.This bike has not got on well with the youth, but the older guys seem to like it.

    The new Shine comes in four variants. And this is how it is priced on road in Pune.

    * Shine Kick-Drum-Spoke Rs. 45,779
    * Shine Self-Disc-Alloy Rs. 52,984
    * Shine Kick-Drum-Alloy Rs. 48,277

    WEIGHT / MEASUREMENT

    * Kerb Weight 122 kg
    * Length 2015 mm
    * Width 730 mm
    * Height 1070 mm
    * Wheelbase 1265 mm
    * Ground Clearance 175 mm
    * Fuel Tank Capacity 11 ltr.
    * Reserve Tank Capacity 1.3 ltr.


    BODY

    * Frame Advanced Design Diamond Frame
    * Front Suspension Telescopic Fork
    * Rear Suspension 3 Step Spring Loaded Hydraulic Shock Absorber
    * Front Tyre 2.75 - 18 42P(4PR)
    * Rear Tyre 2.75 - 18 48P(6PR)
    * Front Brake Type 240mm Disc / 130mm Drum
    * Rear Brake Type 130mm Drum

    ENGINE & TRANSMISSION

    * Engine Type 4 St, Air Cooled OHC Single Cylinder
    * Displacement 124.6 cc
    * Net Power 10.3 BHP @ 7500 rpm (7.68 KW)
    * Torque 1.1 Kg-m @ 5500 rpm (10.9 Nm)
    * Air Filter Paper Type
    * Carburetor CV Type
    * Starting System Kick / Self
    * Transmission Constant Mesh, 4 SpeedGear
    * Gear Shift Pattern All Up


    ELECTRICALS

    * Ignition Digital CDI (Multi Mapping)
    * Battery 12 - 12.5 AH (Ks), 12 V - 7 AH (Es)
    * Headlamp Multi Reflector 12 V / 35 W
    * Shine Self-Drum-Alloy Rs. 50,900

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    The new Hero Honda Splendor NXG, another varient from the hugely succesful splendor series from hero honda.

    engine Performance: I found the engine of the Splendor NXG similar to the 100 C.C "Splendor" and "Passion" models and not find any perceptible difference in the engine.

    It was smooth and had decent power for a 100 C.C commuter

    Tech Specs:

    * Engine: 4-Stroke 97.2 C.C

    * Power: 7.7 PS at 7500 rpm

    * Gear: 4 Speed

    * Front Tyre: 2.75 x 18

    * Rear Tyre: 2.75 x 18

    * Tank Capacity: 10.3 Lts



    Price:The Splendor NXG is priced at just around one thousand rupees more than the Splendor+. The Delhi ex-showroom price is Rs 40,990 for the spoke version and Rs 41,990 for the alloy wheel version.


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    20bhp.....lol.

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    The next vehicle i am going to post about is the 150c.c Hero honda HUNK. This has just been launched in the Indian market.

    150 cc Hero Honda Hunk, Technical Specification:

    Engine

    * Engine: Air Cooled, 4 Stroke, Single Cylinder
    * Engine Displacement: 149.2 cc
    * Max Power: 14.4 Ps @ 8500 RPM
    * Max Torque: 12.80 Nm @ 6500 RPM
    * Bore X Stroke: 57.3 X 57.8 mm


    * Carburettor: CV Type
    * Ignition: AMI- Advanced Microprocessor Ignition System
    * Gearbox: 5 Speed Constant Mesh



    Chasis

    * Type: Tubular, Diamond Type
    * Front Suspension: Telescopic
    * Rear Suspension: REctangular Swingarm, 5 step Gas Reservoir Suspension (GRS)
    * Front Brake: 240 mm dia Disc Brake
    * Rear Brake: 130 mm Drum Brake



    Wheels

    * Front Rim: 1.85 X 18, Alloy
    * Rear Rim: 2.15 X 18, Alloy
    * Front Tyre: 2.75 X 18
    * Rear Tyre: 100/90 X 18



    Physical Dimensions

    * Length: 2080 mm
    * Width: 765 mm
    * Height: 1095 mm
    * Wheelbase: 1325 mm
    * Saddle Height: 795 mm
    * Ground Clearance: 145 mm
    * Keb Weight: 143 Kg (Kick)/146 Kg (Self)



    Electricals

    * Battery: 12V- 7Ah
    * Headlight: 12V 35/35W - Halogen
    * Tail Light: 12V - 5W
    * Stop Light: 12V - 21W
    * Turn Signal Light: 12V - 10W X 4 Nos. Clear Lens Multi Refector Type



    Tank Capacity:

    # 12.4 Lts, Usuable Reserve 2.2 Lts.


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    @fia-How much more can you get from aircooled 220cc single?? Huh

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    HI

    I have rode all indian bikes when i went there at Surat and dehli in order to attain my sister in law wedding not only like bikes but also india is very good

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    thanks shahg

    for calling India very good.
    yes, Indian bikes are really quite good. what did you like about India?
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    It is such a superb bike market in India you have got. Very lucky!
    Web: http://www.bikepics.com/members/sniperr and http://wanderersbook.blogspot.com

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    The current HOT bike, Bajaj Pulsar 220.

    220 cc engine, 20 bhp
    Fuel injection
    Disc Brakes both front and back



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    Hey,this is commin with direct fuel injection systems??

    thats what dts-fi means right? fi- for fuel injection.
    I heard there is gonna be a 150cc of the dtsfi version engine!

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    The inspiring story behind the birth of the new bajaj and thus Indian indigenious bike industry..............
    "We were telling our people that there are 15 guys who have never made a bike but are going to come together to do that.

    They are going to do that on their own, and not with Kawasaki.

    They are going to do a 200cc bike when we couldn't make a 100cc one.

    They are going to make the fastest motorcycle when we couldn't make a mass motorcycle.

    And they are going to make a huge amount of profit when we were making a loss. This seemed like nonsense. But they proved it wrong."

    Said by:
    Rajiv Bajaj (MD, Bajaj Auto): Business World

    That's Rajiv Bajaj, the elder Bajaj scion narrating to BusinessWorld how tough it was for him to persuade his own board of directors.

    The idea was to develop an indigenously developed performance oriented motorcycle without any help of its Japanese partner Kawasaki. And how he and his team has been successful in achieving what many people thought was impossible to achieve.

    Rajiv Bajaj was just in his early 30's when he tried to sell this idea.

    From Number One to Number Four:

    The mid-nineties were tough times for Bajaj Auto. Bajaj Auto used to dominate India’s two wheeler industry with its scooter for the better part of the last century. But as India marched towards the new millennium, there was a dramatic shift in the preference of consumers. The market shifted in favor of Motorcycles. By 1999 motorcycles overtook scooter sales for the first time.
    Two Wheeler Sales in 1999

    From being the number one Bajaj Auto suddenly found itself in the 4’th position after Hero Honda, Yamaha and TVS. The experts never really gave Bajaj Auto much of a chance. Rajiv Bajaj says this is what people used to say about Bajaj Auto,

    "You can't make bikes. Even if you make bikes, you can only make 100cc bikes with the help of Kawasaki. That too with issues of quality. Then you need hundreds of Japanese to come and set it right".


    Frankly speaking at that time either the very brave or the foolish would have dared to put his smart money on Bajaj Auto. Bajaj Auto was primarily a scooter manufacturer. Its motorcycle manufacturing cost was high, the quality too low. Its initial models failed to excite the consumer. The company faced a question of survival.

    Rajiv Bajaj says that the problem was of one of attitude: Bajaj was a scooter company and therefore the motorcycle department was given second-class treatment (it was only 10 per cent of their business in 1996), the quality of the products was poor, and they did not offer fuel efficiency the way the Japanese bikes did. The manufacturing processes were outdated. Simply put Bajaj Auto did not know how to make motorcycles and the people at Bajaj Auto were not willing to change.

    In 1991, Rajiv Bajaj completed his M.S. in manufacturing systems engineering from the University of Warwick, UK and returned to join Bajaj Auto. Rajiv Bajaj recalls how things were wrong at Bajaj Auto.

    "We went into a series of new products around 1995, and started focusing on motorcycles. And we were aghast because the only reasonably sophisticated product we were making was the Kawasaki four-stroke motorcycle. And the warranty cost of our motorcycle was five to six times that of Hero Honda. It was bad quality... bad quality of manufacturing."

    "There was great cynicism whether something was wrong with Kawasaki or with Bajaj. Kawasaki couldn't have gone wrong in that. We were sure that the same motorcycle made by Kawasaki in Japan would not have had these problems. There was probably something wrong with us."


    It takes great courage for someone to accept ones mistakes and faults. But then accepting and taking ownership of ones fault is the first step towards improvement. The challenge next was to get the right products at the right price and to bring in Japanese productivity tools (the management practices that the Japanese pioneered for efficient production) to reduce costs just as the competitors were doing.

    Sanjiv Bajaj, the younger brother of Rajiv had joined the company armed with an MBA from Harvard, says his reading of big companies like Honda, Toyota and Apple had taught him one thing: a successful company needs a good product. But most workers in the Pune plant did not believe you could bring in Japanese management practices into India; there was stiff resistance to the move.

    The problem with Bajaj was that we were so successful with autorickshaws that all that mattered was production. Manufacturing was the overall priority at a time when there was a 10-year waiting list. But there wasn't any focus in the organisation to build a company where people with an open mind would try new things.


    Fighting Back:

    "Each time I tried to push a radical idea, I always got the answer directly or indirectly -- that it's OK in Japan. It doesn't happen in India"

    All those who did not want to change were simply sacked..!!

    Having studied about manufacturing systems in his MS, Rajiv Bajaj wanted to implement similar changes in Bajaj Auto. But it was met with cynicism from the company’s own board members. Most of them laughed at his idea and were of the opinion that Indians were not able to achieve to achieve Japanese levels of quality. That's when the two brothers made an unusual decision. They decided to set up a new plant. They chose Chakan, an hour's drive from Pune for the new plant. Says Sanjiv: "We realised that sometimes people have to be taught by example. That's what we did in Chakan." Says Rajiv,

    "Each time I tried to push a radical idea, I always got the answer directly or indirectly -- that it's OK in Japan. It doesn't happen in India. So I was desperate to prove that it happens in India. I wanted a plant where we start the right way from day one. That's how Chakan started."


    Pulsar Manufactured at the Chakan Plant

    Chakan was the third plant of Bajaj apart from the ones at Akrudi and Waluj. The Chakan plant was started to only produce the new bike (Pulsar) with an entirely new workforce and new management. The workforce mainly constituted of fresh graduates from college who were open to new ideas.

    What happened to the senior management who resisted Rajiv Bajaj’s radical ideas..?? Well all those who did not want to change were simply sacked..!!

    The Team that made it possible:

    "We have a young bunch of people, many of whom are motorcycle riders. They are crazy about bikes and understand the customer’s requirements as users," adds Abraham Joseph, the R&D Head

    Rahul Bajaj the father of Rajiv Bajaj was not exactly sure whether it was the right thing to do but he nevertheless chose to keep his faith on his sons. Rajiv Bajaj along with his younger brother Sanjiv Bajaj went ahead to set things right along with a new team. His new team comprised of mostly guys who them selves loved riding bikes and understood biking.

    "We have a young bunch of people, many of whom are motorcycle riders. They are crazy about bikes and understand the customer’s requirements as users," adds Abraham Joseph, the R&D Head who himself joined in 1989. There are others like Ravi Darad, Bajaj Auto's stylist who is an engineer from IIT-Bombay and who is a keen biker himself. The guys who teamed up with the Bajaj Brothers for this remarkable turnaround were.

    * Abraham Joseph (R&D)

    * Pradeep Shrivastava (Manufacturing)

    * S Sridhar (Marketing and Sales)

    * Kevin P D'Sa (Finance)

    * K Srinivas (Human Resources)




    Vendors: The cost effectiveness and quality of motorcycles manufactured depends on the management of the vendors which supplies the parts. The Bajaj brothers discovered that they had over 1,000 vendors supplying them components, many of which were plain bad in quality, Rajiv decided to prune them down to a around 200. The vendors were even given training on producing quality components. If required they were given training by foreign consultants.


    Dealers: Bajaj Dealers so far had been selling scooters. Rajiv Bajaj understood that selling motorcycles were an entirely different proposition. The dealers were overhauled so that they could sell motorcycles. The result is there for all of us to see now. Bajaj Dealerships all over the country have been designed to cater to the new motorcycle buying customer.


    The R&D team:

    "Our target was: full throttle for 100 hours continuously. The first time, it failed within 10 minutes. Today, the Pulsar engine goes 300 hours full throttle."

    Abraham Joseph, the R&D Head is a Mechanical Engineer from the National Institute of Technology (previously called Regional Engineering College), Bhopal.
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    Abraham Joseph, Bajaj R&D Head
    Rajiv Bajaj put his faith on his young engineers to develop an engine rather than on their Japanese partner, Kawasaki. This is what Rajiv Bajaj has to say about R&D:

    "What is R&D? It's nothing but an engineer who wants to try something. We always tell ourselves that some of the best motorcycles were made by BMW and Honda long before the computers were invented. It's really the spirit of the engineer which is important for R&D. When I walked into the Kawasaki R&D for the first time, I thought I would see a lot of old grey-haired people with thick glasses. The average age there is 26 or 27. The engineer does not require experience. You need people with imagination. Our R&D today is 113 people. The average age there is under 30."

    "The number of mistakes we have made in the Pulsar engine before we got it right is really the learning. One of the endurance tests we have is to take the engine full throttle. Now, full throttle on a bike is rare on the road. Our target was: full throttle for 100 hours continuously. The first time, it failed within 10 minutes. Today, the Pulsar engine goes 300 hours full throttle."




    How the Pulsar was conceived:

    The reason behind the success of the Pulsars soon became obvious to the Bajaj Brothers when they saw the stance that riders took while driving the bike.

    The Pulsar was fulfilling the desire of the riders to take on a youthful persona.

    The Marketing Team provided the inputs for the concept bike. They found there was a market of customers looking for something more than just a bike for commuting. They wanted rugged styling and more power.

    The design department then came up with eight-10 different designs that Rajiv and his team narrow down to three or four. Feedback on the styling was sought through market surveys; finally, two prototypes of the bike are made. Rajiv & his team worked on at least two to three variations of engines, of which one is selected. Rajiv Bajaj personally supervised even nitty-gritty details, from the styling and paint to the design of the console, the right grip and even the spark plug to use. All this took 24-30 months.

    Finally the Pulsar was launched in November 2001 with two engine options of 150 cc and 180 cc.

    Sanjiv Bajaj notes, "When we conceived the bike, we thought the target audience would be 25-35-year-olds. But when we saw the sales chart, it was being being picked up by 35-45-year-old customers."


    They soon realized the reason when they saw the stance that riders took while driving the bike. The Pulsar was fulfilling the desire of the riders to take on a youthful persona. Perhaps in the same way the formally dressed executive in the US may drive a Range Rover SUV to create the image of a man who seeks adventure.

    Although the Pulsars did had quality issues it was the only bike which best satisfied the needs of the Indian Biker. It was powerful, cheaper and muscular looking than other bikes in its category. During those days I used to have a Hero Honda CBZ (Original). Like many Indians even I wasn’t convinced that Bajaj could produce a quality product which could compete with the likes of Honda, Yamaha or Suzuki. But the stellar performance of the Pulsar in the premium Bajaj has proved everyone including me wrong.

    The Pulsars has comfortably outsold any other 150 cc motorcycle in India and has dominated the 150 cc and above sales since its launch. Meanwhile instead of sitting idle on its laurels, Bajaj has been constantly upgrading its models giving the mighty Japanese a run for their money.




    Moral of the Story

    The Pulsar symbolizes the spirit of a resurgent India of the 21'st century. It also represents the manufacturing and managerial prowess of Indians. But there is also a moral to this inspiring story. To tell that, let me first narrate another story ..

    It is about how elephants are kept in thailand. I happened to stumbled upon this story in another blog.

    To keep the elephants from running away all that the thai's do is just tie tie a rope (or a single chain) to the elephants leg and secure it to a stake in the ground. Once his leg is secured, he will not run away. Now, do you think the elephant actually has the potential to break the chain or rope if he wanted to? Of course! He can pull down an entire tree!
    But why won’t he break the weak rope that holds secures his leg? The answer came from the keepers. It lies in making the elephant "believe" that he "cannot" break the string. This conditioning begins from young. When the elephant is a baby and still too weak to walk or even stand properly, they tie his leg to the stake in the ground. Sure enough when the baby elephant tries to run to its mother, it would not able to break the chains that bind it. When it attempts to run, the chain will catch its leg and it will fall onto the ground. After expriencing all the pain from falling again and again, one day the elephant will not bother to pull the chain any more. The moment this happens, the keepers know that the elephant has been condiitoned to be trapped for the rest of its life.

    They have proved that Indians are capable of competing with the best in the world and in this process they have made every Indian proud, including your's truly.

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