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    Salam to every one.

    I have CD 185 and its in good shape the only thing bothering me is the electric system. i have 12 v point system. and now a days i am in the trap of all types of suggestion which i am unable to filter. every next person negates every other person. and the reason of botheration is that i want to have long trip on this bike towards north of Paksitan and i dotn want to drag that 100 kg dead body if it will get break down.

    In this regard i have following questions....

    1) why point sytem of 185 is failure?

    2) Is point sytem of every bike is failure?

    3) Ok if the CDI is better cant bike perform better on point system?

    4) Draw backs of point system?

    5) I know i have option to go for CDI but why not on point system?

    please share with authentic experiance and knowledge. And yes i have this bike but i dont have that much experiance in bike side of many years.

    Looking forward for best possbile suggestions.

    Regards and salam to every one.

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    I tried calling u on the given number but no body picked, Zoorapa (ALi) was telling me youre experienceing bad time with the wiring problem .. i know a mechnic who can sort out things for you ..

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    Nice talking you Ali you have good spirit. keep it up
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    dear all.
    Why Point Sytem of Honda CD185 Twin is failure? -239291 Why Point Sytem of Honda CD185 Twin is failure? -239292 Why Point Sytem of Honda CD185 Twin is failure? -239293 Why Point Sytem of Honda CD185 Twin is failure? -239294 Why Point Sytem of Honda CD185 Twin is failure? -239295
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    Salam Again to all

    so this is the state of my magnet/coil. your comments required.

    i was thinking to change this part of bike but i thought why not "do it yourself" thing before changing it. might be worked and i will get knoweledge.

    @vicky

    yes i thought i get your call but i was away at that moment. actually wrestling with my bike thats why

    will call you today.

    So All dears i am looking forward for your comments.
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    @Musafir

    I have no experience of CD twin but the issues u mentioned above are not a big deal to fix yr self,


    • Gasket must be changed & shud be easily available at McLeoad or Litton Road or can be made easily for just 15 Rs.
    • Rust on Rotor/Stator can be brushed with sand paper etc.
    • The 2nd Point Contact place u mentioning on plate must be for some 4 Cylinder configuration which is not the case with ur bike so adding 2nd point contact wud not be usefull.
    • Regarding Coil, its very small text label on Pic u mentioned so i m unable to read/understand. However if the contact junction of individual coils is rusty or electrically isolated than it can be fixed & rewinding of coil can also be done.


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    @Imran

    thanks dear. i got some good answers from you. regarding coil i asked that one gucha out of six in the coil is not working as the electrician contected to adjacent gucha part by skiping one of that.

    @Zoopra

    Ali once again thanks for refering me Dan's manual its proving good.

    now a days i am trying to read it properly and the good thing is that i am understanding it especailly the timing thing. hope i will able to understand fully.

    @Vicky

    sorry yar i told you that i will contact you on that day but got busy. but Inshallah will soon.


    keep going fellows
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    Skipping one slot(guchha) is not a good practice as it would be putting extra load on other slots/coils & soon the other coils will b dead too. Better to get it rewind ASAP. Infact these type of small jugars(like u mentioned skipping or bypassing damgae Coil) effects performance of sytems & unfortunatily its common practice of our Mechanics/Electricians.

    In CDI or electronic ignition mechanic have very less margin to play with as per their own thoughts so these system perfom well.

    As far Setting of Point is concern i can challange that 100% of mechanics/Electricians (including Authorised service men of famous brands) i have ever consulted have no idea about adjusting timing of contact Point. so its the main reason that Point system bikes usually fouls during extream perfomrnace.
    Improperly adjusted Point contact means extra amount of current for extra time period which cause extra load on Alternator/coils. Alos the heavy amount of current flow through point contacts causes rapid wear of contacts & rapid requirment of readjustment against very less running milage.
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    you can find a complete coil ring in bilal ganj for some reasonable price .. I suggest rewinding it may reduce output coz I think therre is no good rewinder electrician too, buy a complete coil it wont cost you high I have seen many 185 coils in Bilal ganj.
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    Musafir366

    so finally we got our self a a new Coil for haris's 185 et see if it wors or crashes :-P :-D
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    @ Vicky

    ye let see. what will happen. on saturday i failed to go to electrician.

    i am very much hopeful.

    now its up to me if coils work ok that how i set the point.

    thanks a lot Vicky helping and guiding me out.

    and i am looking forward for more help from you

    btw yaar let me give the link of that torrent on which you said that there is manual of cd200. it will be good for me and rest of others.

    And along with Vicky i would like to say thanks to especially Zoopra and Imran bhatti specially who keep giving me good advices. and more specially to Zoopra who gave me good links for information.

    keep it boys.

    hope soon we will be enjoying the ride togather.
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    yes as I saw your bike that day its in pretty good condition ... only if this new coil came out to be success I think you be ready to roll her to abotabad and meet Ali :-D
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    Newly bought stator alias gucha, pics of old one are above. comment plz



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    Its really hard to tell about the working status of Electric COils, But some tips are,
    1. Apparently coils shudnnt be black or some of the peace with extra dark color (it cud be due to exposure to extra ordinary heat or some short circuit.
    2. Smell it, u shud have some smell of varnish but not of some burnt material.
    3. Each wire shud have same resistance with other 2 wires (needs to be checked with multi meter)
    4. Any of the 3 wires shudnt have any conectivity with ground/Metal core.

    • Health of coil can only be determined after its installation & operation.

    • Regarding connectivity of three wires u can connect them in any of the sequence with previous wirring setup.
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    Hi all. Can a good capacitor increase the life of a point by preventing sparking?

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    Yes it will increase life of Point contact but precise setting of point plays major role for spark reduction & increase in life of conatacts.
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    Koi naye tazi koi updates !! did you managed to start the bike on new coil ? I guess youre busy these days ?
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    @vicky tulla.

    yes dear. busy kafi hoon due to office and personal work but Inshallah will bang again. i think you also know that now a days discussion is going on with Zoopra. to change the electric system into CDI with some modification.

    i will again visit BG soon might be koi naya maal aya hoo.

    janab hum tu app kay torrent kay link kay intizar main hi rah *** hain.

    you tell me got the shock?
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    yar sach bataon tu miene search kiya torrent kafi but "mienu we naye laba " werna fwd ker deta .. ab ye hai ky miene apni kuch hard drives back up ki huwi hain un mien search karon ga koz miene download tu kiya tha pehly aik dafa ...

    Yes Ali say baat huwi thi but wo tu apni biek ko CDI per upgrade kerna ka plan bana rha hai ..

    Tum is new coil ko try tu karo may be you get success? I hope

    Yes I finnaly found the Complete Shocks Absorber front End with Disc Calipers.. bas ab final touching reh gaye hai InshaAllah jaldi complete kernay ka irada hai ab...


    Quote Originally Posted by Musafir366 View Post
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    yes dear. busy kafi hoon due to office and personal work but Inshallah will bang again. i think you also know that now a days discussion is going on with Zoopra. to change the electric system into CDI with some modification.

    i will again visit BG soon might be koi naya maal aya hoo.

    janab hum tu app kay torrent kay link kay intizar main hi rah *** hain.

    you tell me got the shock?
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    @vicky tulla.
    i have sent u a private msgplz do check it.
    didnt post it here coz it wasnt related to the topic

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    Sure I have replied you, you can post these question in my thread :

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...d-200-185-twin

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    i have sent u a private msgplz do check it.
    didnt post it here coz it wasnt related to the topic
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    Red face Did the coil worked ?

    kiya bana dost ? coil lagta hai abhi tak check nahi kiya janab nay nahi tu zuroor post marta hena ..

    Ali tu poray mood mien hai meri tran CDI per shift honay per ..
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