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    Default Kindly Suggest Engine Oil for Santro Prime

    Hello experts i got Hyundai Santro Prime - EFI that i mostly use on CNG and rarely on Petrol.
    It is 69000 KM driven and Engine is in great condition.

    Can you please suggest the best engine oil for my car for best Fuel Average and Engine Life?

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    10w-40 SL or SM grade.
    Change interval 3.5K
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1 View Post
    10w-40 SL or SM grade.
    Change interval 3.5K
    Thank You Can i get this particular oil from Caltex or Shell Stations?

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    @tintin1

    I think 5w40 Fully Synthetic is also good for his car. What do you say? Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev2008 View Post
    Thank You Can i get this particular oil from Caltex or Shell Stations?
    Sir, yes you can buy it from good reputed pumps or shops.

    here are the prices/4L bottle for 10w40 oil

    ZIC A 2500
    Total 2480
    Kixx 2400
    Performa 2390
    Shell HX5 2100
    Liuqi Moly 3000

    If you feel these are expensive, then buy ZIC-M 15w-40 which is Rs. 1840/4L with same change interval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ustaad_007 View Post
    @tintin1

    I think 5w40 Fully Synthetic is also good for his car. What do you say? Am I right?
    Sir we can use this oil from motor cycle to big cars (almost in all the cars) including Diesel Cars and even big diesel engines too.
    But using this oil in cars like Mehran, bolan, santor, coure, alto, cultus, Daewoo, Lancer, Daewoo Racer, etc. or in busses, trucks, Shahzors, etc is just waste of money. Because engines of these cars are based on old technology and hence runs well on mineral oils.

    I literally seen by myself a Cab Driver of Bolan (Black Color Taxies) using ZIC A+ (5w20) in hot summar here in Lahore and has driven almost 70K on this oil.
    Then I got to learn that madness has no limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1 View Post
    Sir, yes you can buy it from good reputed pumps or shops.

    here are the prices/4L bottle for 10w40 oil

    ZIC A 2500
    Total 2480
    Kixx 2400
    Performa 2390
    Shell HX5 2100
    Liuqi Moly 3000

    If you feel these are expensive, then buy ZIC-M 15w-40 which is Rs. 1840/4L with same change interval.
    Bro PSO is selling one which they call "CNG PLUS" what is that? Previously i used that when i bought the car

    Sorry for dumb questions as i am a total noob in all this.
    Some oil are coming labelled as "CNG" while some are "Non Cng" what's the difference?

    at the end which is better? "PSO CNG PLUS" or "ZIC-M 15w-40"? as both have same price

    Thanks

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    Differentiating them as CNF & Petrol is just an attraction to pull money from consumer's.
    Havoline has 20w-50 one for CNF & one for Petrol. The difference between them is of Grade. Its SG for Petrol and SM for CNG. I am not sure about PSO CNG & Petrol oils.

    Go for ZIC-M 15w-40. It would be perfect for your ride.
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    Any interval less than 5000 km/ 4 months is a complete waste of money.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Sir, the fuel quality in Pak. is not good enough to run the mineral oils upto 5K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1 View Post
    Sir, the fuel quality in Pak. is not good enough to run the mineral oils upto 5K.
    If bad fuel quality is suspected, the minimum service interval in any service manual you find is given 5k km, even for mineral oil.

    Anyways, please define "bad fuel". If you mean leaded fuel, then that is very rare even in Pakistan. If our fuel was leaded, then you wouldn't have JDM's knocking all over the place.

    If you mean "full of junk", the fuel filter takes care of that. There is no point whatsoever in changing oil earlier than even the severe schedule.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    If bad fuel quality is suspected, the minimum service interval in any service manual you find is given 5k km, even for mineral oil.

    Anyways, please define "bad fuel". If you mean leaded fuel, then that is very rare even in Pakistan. If our fuel was leaded, then you wouldn't have JDM's knocking all over the place.

    If you mean "full of junk", the fuel filter takes care of that. There is no point whatsoever in changing oil earlier than even the severe schedule.
    Sir I can give example of milk or medicine, only.
    The pure cow milk has 87.8% Water, and rest 12.2% proteins, Fats, Fatty acids, Carbs, etc.
    But in Pak. the water % is more than 90% and plus other impurities.

    One tablet of Disprene should be 50gm of Asprene. But in pak. we have 10~20gm or even less in actual.

    Similarly, we don’t have the fuel which should be technically pure with its perfect ingredients. There is always mixing of impurities in it which help people to be richer and on otherside it significantly reduces the efficiencies of fuel consuming machines (engines).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1 View Post
    Sir I can give example of milk or medicine, only.
    The pure cow milk has 87.8% Water, and rest 12.2% proteins, Fats, Fatty acids, Carbs, etc.
    But in Pak. the water % is more than 90% and plus other impurities.

    One tablet of Disprene should be 50gm of Asprene. But in pak. we have 10~20gm or even less in actual.

    Similarly, we don’t have the fuel which should be technically pure with its perfect ingredients. There is always mixing of impurities in it which help people to be richer and on otherside it significantly reduces the efficiencies of fuel consuming machines (engines).
    Milk is a very broad term - you didn't specify Deenu doodh wala or Olper's whole Kindly Suggest Engine Oil for Santro Prime - biggrin

    Anyways, petrol is being discussed here. You haven't posed any petrol analysis done from a recogninzed lab. Then again neither have I, but the burden of proof falls onto you in this case.

    I have been able to achieve 18 kml on my car on this bad petrol (PSO) - this was on a car which can't give more than 11-12 according to the people on these forums. On the same petrol, I can accelerate at as low as 1200 RPM on a Cultus, without lugging or knocking. Both these cars have covered ~280k and ~320k km respectively on local fuel, with oil changes at 5000 km for both cars.

    If you follow Xulfiqar's posts, he changed the oil on his Accord at 5k-7k km in Karachi's conditions. He also said in a forum that fuel quality is a problem in GDI engines; no local car here uses GDI except the latest Accord.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1 View Post
    Differentiating them as CNF & Petrol is just an attraction to pull money from consumer's.
    Havoline has 20w-50 one for CNF & one for Petrol. The difference between them is of Grade. Its SG for Petrol and SM for CNG. I am not sure about PSO CNG & Petrol oils.

    Go for ZIC-M 15w-40. It would be perfect for your ride.
    Thanks. What about Coolant Which coolant do you suggest for Santro? Please suggest one that can be found on PSO/Shell if possible and What will be its estimated price and how many months it can serve before the need of refill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev2008 View Post
    Thanks. What about Coolant Which coolant do you suggest for Santro? Please suggest one that can be found on PSO/Shell if possible and What will be its estimated price and how many months it can serve before the need of refill?
    There is plenty of coolants available in the market. Some are premixed and some need to mix with water. It is recommended according to engine's cooling system. LM coolants are not premixed. We need to add water by ourself after knowing that how much we should. Toyota's long life is also pre-mixed, but its very expensive.

    Presently I am using ZIC Super A Coolant. This is some kind of general coolant which can be used from Mehran to Grand Cruiser.
    This is very reasonable in price ~Rs. 360/L whereas Toyota's or LM's coolants are more than Rs. 600/L.

    If the radiator fan is on auto mode, it doesn't not reduce the water level, bottle, bottle pipes & bottle lid are working OK, Radiator lid is functioning right, its temperature guage is OK, its temperature valve is working perfect and there is no leakage, then coolant's life is 100K.

    never use Osaka or any Pak. made coolant. These are selling just dyed waters.
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