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    Default Self Tuning - Khyber G-10 (Plugs, valve clearance, spark gap etc)

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    I own a khyber 1996. Recently overhauled its engine completely at home by myself except the mechanist part. It has its first oil change at 1100Km yesterday and i am planning to tune it. I have following query for the learned members/experts

    Q.1. recommended spark plugs for khyber g-10 on CNG
    Q.2. Recommended spark plug gap?
    Q.3. Recommended tappet setting Hot/cold?
    Q.4. Running was on petrol with Caltex Havoline formula and now i have switched to CNG with Shell helix HX7 10-40W (synthetic) , is shell HX7 ok?

    What else should i do or check to get max output and efficiency from my g-10?

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    after-note: In addition to the above queries, this thread also contains info on carburetor, AC, electrical, cooling system, brakes & gear issues related to khyber G-10.

    Special thanks to following experts :
    Xulfiqar, Fas133, Margallar, Ahsanzs, wasay_Ahmad, Xplorer, jz, Daniyal
    for their valuable contributions and last but not least
    I am greatful to Cracked for keeping this thread alive by
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    and how're we supposed to hook up this stap advancer in cars like mine where the ignition coil is INSIDE the distributor? since distro has seals around it, we cant have wires going in and out of the distro....problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    The electronic weird shaped new era coil does not require a resistor as its impedance is not low.
    That coil is really wierd.
    A wierd kind of a pyramid type structure.
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    did a DIY..
    alternator k KABLAY nechy wala aik missing tha n aik toot gya kal raat ko...so alll battery got drained away cuz i was driving wen this happened..so parked car in nite,got up in morning n fixed it up myself..feeling lyk a hero..hehe
    gari k nechay ghuss k 1 ghanta laga kably fix krny may but atlast ho gaey..
    nechay angle he nae banta fit krna k bara putha seedha ho k fit kiay..hehe
    now abi gari ko dkhaka mar k strt krna hy..hehe
    but now atleast alternator is full fixed n solidly fixed..
    hats off to me..
    lol
    now back is full time dard kering...alternator ko tight krna b azab he hy,chawal tight he nae hota bari mushkil sy rod sy zor laga k tight kra hy but it got tight atlast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drug_Mafia View Post
    @fass 133
    whts the purpose of STAP
    wht will this help in?
    STAP is used to advance ignition timing when shifted to CNG and Retard it when switched to gasoline to maintain proper combustion in cylinders of ur vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanonline View Post
    and how're we supposed to hook up this stap advancer in cars like mine where the ignition coil is INSIDE the distributor? since distro has seals around it, we cant have wires going in and out of the distro....problem!
    Please follow the link LANDIRENZO and look for the STAP for your particular vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracked View Post
    did a DIY..
    alternator k KABLAY nechy wala aik missing tha n aik toot gya kal raat ko...so alll battery got drained away cuz i was driving wen this happened..so parked car in nite,got up in morning n fixed it up myself..feeling lyk a hero..hehe
    gari k nechay ghuss k 1 ghanta laga kably fix krny may but atlast ho gaey..
    nechay angle he nae banta fit krna k bara putha seedha ho k fit kiay..hehe
    now abi gari ko dkhaka mar k strt krna hy..hehe
    but now atleast alternator is full fixed n solidly fixed..
    hats off to me..
    lol
    now back is full time dard kering...alternator ko tight krna b azab he hy,chawal tight he nae hota bari mushkil sy rod sy zor laga k tight kra hy but it got tight atlast
    Good & well done bro. it always feel good when you do something by urself and its done. as we people are not professionals and are not used to this kind of labour, our body give away very soon. i did the complete overhaul at home with limited tools and resources, took me five days (3 Leaves from the office) to put it together and with the help of my dad lifted the whole assembly (engine+transmission) out and back in. but my tiredness dispeared when the car started in half self.

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    The above is very true, I rebuilt my 2 stroke yamaha RX115 - at home - when I sold this machine recently - it had travelled 120,000 Kms in 9 years, replaced the clutch 3 times and chain 3 times too.. Never gave up on me, it has carried through rough and smooth, easy to hard, road to mountains. And accelerated like a scalded cat too

    Never asked for anything else to be renewed or rebuilt. Mostly because I used allen screws on the whole engine crankcase assy, lapped every surface and used threebond 1104 on needed joints.. Followed exact rebuilding standards and specialty created tools. Paid off well, A 2 stroke so troublefree is like fairy dust in Pakistan
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    @all
    guyz whts the price of stap
    for carbi cars
    i have chekd the link of landirenzo
    the device compatible for my khyber is stap00
    wht is the price for this stap 00
    thankx
    n is it avilable in khi
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    xuliifiqar..
    i have a yamaha 1984 model which awas japan imported...n believe me its engine was overhauled just once n tht maybe just change of piston n smlall things,its meter is at 47000 + after dclickin a full round..1 lac n 47 k is hell f mileage but yet s can go to 90-100 in no time..
    i believe things kept care r lyk dogs,more loyal than anything...

    n i have to give it to volta dry battery..i mean in night its generator screw got broken but yet this battery was able to get me home aftr 1 hour drive with half time ac on..head lights tou waisy he on thee as it was nite,i turned off the ac as i was feelin its blow pressure was goin down n meter lights were fadin,but yet it took me home,normal battry wud have died in half way...
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    i wish i can do the overhauling of engine too..but tht thing requires too many tools n there r lyk million screws n bolts n more screws so cant take a risk...hehe

    is there any way to tighten up the calipers??
    my cars left caliper vibrates on bumpy roads n tht rattling sound is quite annoyin though its very minute but i wana eliminate this..
    changeing is one option talk about the other options..hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    The above is very true, I rebuilt my 2 stroke yamaha RX115 - at home - when I sold this machine recently - it had travelled 120,000 Kms in 9 years, replaced the clutch 3 times and chain 3 times too.. Never gave up on me, it has carried through rough and smooth, easy to hard, road to mountains. And accelerated like a scalded cat too

    Never asked for anything else to be renewed or rebuilt. Mostly because I used allen screws on the whole engine crankcase assy, lapped every surface and used threebond 1104 on needed joints.. Followed exact rebuilding standards and specialty created tools. Paid off well, A 2 stroke so troublefree is like fairy dust in Pakistan
    RX 115 (Y)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cracked View Post
    i wish i can do the overhauling of engine too..but tht thing requires too many tools n there r lyk million screws n bolts n more screws so cant take a risk...hehe

    is there any way to tighten up the calipers??
    my cars left caliper vibrates on bumpy roads n tht rattling sound is quite annoyin though its very minute but i wana eliminate this..
    changeing is one option talk about the other options..hehe
    rebulding an engine is relatively not that hard. Its been about 13 years on my moms's Honda Accord (1986) A16A1 engine, I rebuilt it myself with a few freinds help using oversize pistons and crank bearings, rebuilt the Cyl head myself by hand - derusted the cooling jackets, cleaned out the oiling galleries etc. Rebuilt the whole A/C system too to factory specs

    This engine has done 400,000 Kms after the rebuild (4 T belts water pumps and 4 clutches later) - it starts up on first crank everyday till today. All I have to input is there are some points to notice.

    Coolant mixture flush every 2 years
    Fresh engine oil and MANN filter every 5000 kms
    fresh transmission oil every 2 years too
    MANN branded air filter replaced every year

    Engine is never pressure washed, always washed by hand.. Simple factors that can elongate a car's life by a few magnitudes
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    xulifiqar..bro good work ..see the prob is u knw quite much about cars which i dont...engine open kr loon n wapis assemble he na krna aat ho tou?hehe
    plus all piston size,specs n bla bla ,thts too much to handle...
    i do the same as u do with accord...like coolant flush ,engine oil change at 3000 n i use normal GUARD filter,dont knw if its original ...i buy it frm kiyani autos thts a renowned shop in pindi n isb...i wonder if they have tht mann or anyother better brand oil filter.
    i change air filter at 6000 n i recently changed the gear oil...
    but khyber is 1000cc or 993 cc to b specific so its not a car i hope to go to 400k kms cuz its tiny engine will die half way...:p
    all i want is peacefull drive just maybe till 100k kms n then i mite put in some cultus efi engine,tht too i kept the car...
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    i do the same with my car engine..no pressure engine,just normal water n then clothin to get it wiped out..
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    This thread has become even more helpful and active than Khyber Fan Club thread. I've become its regular reader.
    Thanks to all contributing members, especially the starter of the thread, smijaz.
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    xplorer..
    this thread has only problems n solutions...no CAR DETAILING pictures..hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by cracked View Post
    xplorer..
    this thread has only problems n solutions...no CAR DETAILING pictures..hehe
    Ha Ha. Hope one day we will get over with our car's problems and may be then we will have time to post some pics on the fan's club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    rebulding an engine is relatively not that hard. Its been about 13 years on my moms's Honda Accord (1986) A16A1 engine, I rebuilt it myself with a few freinds help using oversize pistons and crank bearings, rebuilt the Cyl head myself by hand - derusted the cooling jackets, cleaned out the oiling galleries etc. Rebuilt the whole A/C system too to factory specs

    This engine has done 400,000 Kms after the rebuild (4 T belts water pumps and 4 clutches later) - it starts up on first crank everyday till today. All I have to input is there are some points to notice.

    Coolant mixture flush every 2 years
    Fresh engine oil and MANN filter every 5000 kms
    fresh transmission oil every 2 years too
    MANN branded air filter replaced every year

    Engine is never pressure washed, always washed by hand.. Simple factors that can elongate a car's life by a few magnitudes
    Amazing Job. Rebuilding the head is the fun part but also the most crucial one.

    what should be the life expectancy of an engine after the following overhaul

    1. Engine Head
    Valve+valve guides (fuji), cam shaft bush, seals (NOK), valve grinding.
    2. engine block
    main/beagon bearing (0.50), ring(NPR) /piston(ART) (0.50), genuine cylinder bore (0.50), water body (GMB), oil pump gear set (fuji), timing belt (genuine).

    using Zic A (10-40W) and VIC oil filter change after 5000km
    Air filter Guard replacing after 10,000km
    Coolant caltex Green pre-diluted 50-50.
    Fuel : 90% CNG, 10% petrol.

    Engine has done 12k km after the overhaul , initial 1k km on petrol and the rest on CNG.

    I am hoping for a 100K plus figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracked View Post
    i wish i can do the overhauling of engine too..but tht thing requires too many tools n there r lyk million screws n bolts n more screws so cant take a risk...hehe

    is there any way to tighten up the calipers??
    my cars left caliper vibrates on bumpy roads n tht rattling sound is quite annoyin though its very minute but i wana eliminate this..
    changeing is one option talk about the other options..hehe
    Sorry for a late response. Calipers can be repared by kharadia, he will fix some plastic bushing in its mountings and it will stop vibrating. Also ensure that the brake pad clips (shown in the pics posted by daniyal) are all present.

    Dont forget to grease the bushes and the round rubber boots to cover them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xplorer View Post
    This thread has become even more helpful and active than Khyber Fan Club thread. I've become its regular reader.
    Thanks to all contributing members, especially the starter of the thread, smijaz.
    Thanks for the appreciation... its all about sharing our knowledge and helping others. Fortunately this thread has found people who are real gurus and have a heart to help and guide people.

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