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    Default Self Tuning - Khyber G-10 (Plugs, valve clearance, spark gap etc)

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    I own a khyber 1996. Recently overhauled its engine completely at home by myself except the mechanist part. It has its first oil change at 1100Km yesterday and i am planning to tune it. I have following query for the learned members/experts

    Q.1. recommended spark plugs for khyber g-10 on CNG
    Q.2. Recommended spark plug gap?
    Q.3. Recommended tappet setting Hot/cold?
    Q.4. Running was on petrol with Caltex Havoline formula and now i have switched to CNG with Shell helix HX7 10-40W (synthetic) , is shell HX7 ok?

    What else should i do or check to get max output and efficiency from my g-10?

    regards


    after-note: In addition to the above queries, this thread also contains info on carburetor, AC, electrical, cooling system, brakes & gear issues related to khyber G-10.

    Special thanks to following experts :
    Xulfiqar, Fas133, Margallar, Ahsanzs, wasay_Ahmad, Xplorer, jz, Daniyal
    for their valuable contributions and last but not least
    I am greatful to Cracked for keeping this thread alive by
    raising all the queries/question.


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    smijaz bhai if u do this a DIY,do post puctures..hamy b sekhny ko moka dia jaey..lLOL

    i had a query,is there any way to check if car is over heating other than temp needle in ca dash??
    mean how can one chk car is over heating wihtout lookin at needle???
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    I have successfully over hauled my Khyber's distributor using these Pics a month ago.Good Luck to u all and Eid Mubarak.

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    If u have an Ohm Meter then you can measure the resistance of the thermistor (the temp. sensor) and so using the graph could know the coolant temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracked View Post
    smijaz bhai if u do this a DIY,do post puctures..hamy b sekhny ko moka dia jaey..lLOL

    i had a query,is there any way to check if car is over heating other than temp needle in ca dash??
    mean how can one chk car is over heating wihtout lookin at needle???
    Mr. fas133 has granted both of your wishes. My way of checking the temp gauge
    1. turn on the ignition switch (no need to start the engine)
    2. remove the coolant temp sensor wire and ground (Connect to chassis) it firmly.
    3. get in the car and watch the temp needle rise it should get to H in few seconds.

    4. if it doesnt your gauge is not working properly and you may need to calculate the adjusted value. e.g if the needle stops at half way then consider that point as H and now the quarter will be the half mark.

    5. if the temp needle goes to H then the gauge is Ok check the sensor as per the instructions posted by Fas133.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniyalahmad View Post
    2,12,554km on the odo when the rocker arms were changed.
    Its running with the same engine, never overhauled never done anything with it.
    But Khyber's odometer doesn't have the "lac" digit. Its only upto 99,999 Km. I don't know why Suzuki people designed it like that. They were not expecting their car to go above 1 lac Kms?
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    @Xulfiqar

    From your post in other thread regarding alternator (Diode Bank) check
    I checked the alternator with a multimeter and found 14V DC while the engine running
    Self Tunning - Khyber G-10 (Plugs, valve clearance, spark gap etc) - p5090224

    and then I switched the multimeter to AC and then I got 15V AC.
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    what does this mean ?

    one more thing my multimeter is showing 13V (AC) from stand alone battery, is that normal or the meter is acting funny.

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    meter has smoked some weed recently, get a digital one - a standing car battery would only show DC volts
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    why doesnt the manual show how to overhaul the distributor centrifugal advance mechanism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    meter has smoked some weed recently, get a digital one - a standing car battery would only show DC volts
    LOLz... Exactly , that is what it should do
    ok i will try a digital one but this meter is a very reliable one and has been with me for more than a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smijaz View Post
    LOLz... Exactly , that is what it should do
    ok i will try a digital one but this meter is a very reliable one and has been with me for more than a decade.
    @smijaz
    Don't Worry it is normal when using an analog Multimeter because basically it is a Galvanometer and all the values are converted in DC current before feeding to the main coil of the meter.
    Besides, definitely u got a very good and reliable meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    meter has smoked some weed recently, get a digital one - a standing car battery would only show DC volts
    i checked with my DMM the ac volts on two different standalone car batteries, and on 1.5v clock batteries too, they all show differing amounts of AC voltage! why would that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fas133 View Post
    @smijaz
    Don't Worry it is normal when using an analog Multimeter because basically it is a Galvanometer and all the values are converted in DC current before feeding to the main coil of the meter.
    Besides, definitely u got a very good and reliable meter.
    thanks bro for explaining the mechanism, you are absolutely right about it.

    And also thanks for appreciating the device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanonline View Post
    i checked with my DMM the ac volts on two different standalone car batteries, and on 1.5v clock batteries too, they all show differing amounts of AC voltage! why would that be?

    some rippling voltage maybe - causing a little AC reading

    by the pictures Im looking at the needle is at 0.7V AC or 3.1V AC - the 0.7 is perfectly normal in an alternator
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    by looking at the pic,its better i dont open up the distributor..
    lol
    btw wen i overhauled the engine,i got tht new too so it wont b in need of overhaul tht soon..its router comes back real smooth n quick wen moved anti-clock wise..

    hay i wana do a DIY.
    i wana make up the speedo meter in whtie color..do any body has its speedo meter inside scanned?
    i mean the thing tht has digits of speed n temp n fuel gauge??
    if some body can scan it for me,ill be thankfull..
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    Hello Pakwheelers,

    Today i went for tuning and adjusting fuel settings on CNG & patrol. the engine was missing on patrol and on CNG/patrol when i used to start the car in morning it used to vibrate a lot and the strokes of engines had a significant gap, but after some time the RPM used to stable.

    I told this to a mechanic & he adjusted, CNG settings, Patrol settings, and Tappet settings.

    when i came home after driving it 6.kms, the exhaust was emitting white smoke. At that time i thought may be it is because of winter. But i was worried, as this smoke was not present before.

    When i started it after 2 hours, the engine refused to start, and felt like it is jammed.

    I'm worried, as i think the engine is seized,
    Plz help, what should i do,

    I have although asked my friend who is mechanic to visit me early in morning.

    Help guyz.
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    hmm seems like your engine quit - any oil pressure warning indication etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    hmm seems like your engine quit - any oil pressure warning indication etc?

    No oil pressure warning indication.

    are you sure about seize?

    can anyone else plz diagnose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adyiator View Post
    Hello Pakwheelers,

    Today i went for tuning and adjusting fuel settings on CNG & patrol. the engine was missing on patrol and on CNG/patrol when i used to start the car in morning it used to vibrate a lot and the strokes of engines had a significant gap, but after some time the RPM used to stable.

    I told this to a mechanic & he adjusted, CNG settings, Patrol settings, and Tappet settings.

    when i came home after driving it 6.kms, the exhaust was emitting white smoke. At that time i thought may be it is because of winter. But i was worried, as this smoke was not present before.

    When i started it after 2 hours, the engine refused to start, and felt like it is jammed.

    I'm worried, as i think the engine is seized,
    Plz help, what should i do,

    I have although asked my friend who is mechanic to visit me early in morning.

    Help guyz.

    Any previous repair or overhaul history if available will be helpful in diagnosis.

    For now, check condition of oil on the dip stick and under the tappet cover, coolant in the radiator, fan belt etc

    if OK then Remove the distributor cap, put the car in reverse gear while looking at the rotor (Hood open) push the car. the rotor should rotate with movement of the car. if its not then the timing belt is gone.


    If OK then check the battery or replacing with a good test battery from a friend or other car.


    if the above is OK check the self starter motor by removing spark plugs and cranking the engine.

    if OK, connect every thing back, if still the engine is resisting to start then Two or more tappets are extra loose.

    post the results here

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracked View Post
    by looking at the pic,its better i dont open up the distributor..
    lol
    btw wen i overhauled the engine,i got tht new too so it wont b in need of overhaul tht soon..its router comes back real smooth n quick wen moved anti-clock wise..

    hay i wana do a DIY.
    i wana make up the speedo meter in whtie color..do any body has its speedo meter inside scanned?
    i mean the thing tht has digits of speed n temp n fuel gauge??
    if some body can scan it for me,ill be thankfull..

    Do you need a scanned copy of the dials, if yes Y?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smijaz View Post
    Any previous repair or overhaul history if available will be helpful in diagnosis.

    For now, check condition of oil on the dip stick and under the tappet cover, coolant in the radiator, fan belt etc

    if OK then Remove the distributor cap, put the car in reverse gear while looking at the rotor (Hood open) push the car. the rotor should rotate with movement of the car. if its not then the timing belt is gone.


    If OK then check the battery or replacing with a good test battery from a friend or other car.


    if the above is OK check the self starter motor by removing spark plugs and cranking the engine.

    if OK, connect every thing back, if still the engine is resisting to start then Two or more tappets are extra loose.

    post the results here
    Thanks brother for the guidance.
    the car is in workshop, it hasn't been touched yet, tomorrow early morning we will check it, inshaALLAH.

    i'll let you know the status.

    regards.
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