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    Salam,

    When I bought khyber, I noticed its temp meter remains near to C. Then i found it is because thermostate valve was not installed and fan was automatic.

    I then installed a thermostate (suzuki khyber genuine) and make the fan automatic. now temp meter goes up to 25%. Is it OK . I saw that in most cars it stays on about 50% (almost in the center). Is there any way to check engine temperature.
    May be the part/switch which control temp meter is not working correct. Where this part is located and can I change it easily.


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    Car Heat-up ho to Masla na ho to Masla.... Its normal buddy!!
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    Maybe You Have Bigger Radiator Or Big Cooling Fan......Also make Sure Temp Switch And Temp Gauge Is All Ok......
    In Summer Heat With A/C.......Lower The Heat Better It Is..But In Winters.......Engine Should Operate Somehow On Normal Temp....
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    its perfectly normal. khyber's heat guage is designed to stay b/w 25-30% at normal operating temperature. After the lauch of suzuki factory fitted CNGs in cars, suzuki changed to 50% heat guage position at normal temperature..
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    Nopes - the gauge should be at about middle, They usually go weak after a decade and either you fix it or reprogram your head that 25% is actually 50%

    I would also like to add - that Ive seen some cars in which electricians installed a bulb in series - it placed a resistive load on the circuit which made the gauge read lower.. I literally wanted to shoot the person who did that, the engine was overheating like crazy to the point of head warping due to stripped threads in the block for a headbolt. All this and the gauge was only registering 10% heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    Nopes - the gauge should be at about middle, They usually go weak after a decade and either you fix it or reprogram your head that 25% is actually 50%

    I would also like to add - that Ive seen some cars in which electricians installed a bulb in series - it placed a resistive load on the circuit which made the gauge read lower.. I literally wanted to shoot the person who did that, the engine was overheating like crazy to the point of head warping due to stripped threads in the block for a headbolt. All this and the gauge was only registering 10% heat.
    Exactly this is the thing I did to my mind when I had a khyber few years back.

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    if khyber has genuine radiator n piping system the normal temperature remain 30%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    Nopes - the gauge should be at about middle, They usually go weak after a decade and either you fix it or reprogram your head that 25% is actually 50%

    I would also like to add - that Ive seen some cars in which electricians installed a bulb in series - it placed a resistive load on the circuit which made the gauge read lower.. I literally wanted to shoot the person who did that, the engine was overheating like crazy to the point of head warping due to stripped threads in the block for a headbolt. All this and the gauge was only registering 10% heat.

    Sir. Respectfully.... I disagree. I have owned a khyber from 95 to 06. And never in that span, winter or summer, i saw Khyber's guage to rise above 30%.

    And as I recall a mechanic narrating, when Suzuki changed the normal heat indication to 50%, many literate people took their cars to workshops just to confirm why it is happening in their brand new cars.

    Well I wont swear on his narration, however I can confirm my experience with khyber!!!!
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    same here . Its about 30 % in my car too!!

    I also got this reading once I installed the thermostate as previous one was malfunctional!
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    normal... dont worry

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    strange. Ive replaced the temp sensors in older khybers with new japanese pieces after that they functioned correctly
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    we have a khyber for rough duty n its temp NEVER crossed 20% from 1996 till today on ac without ac on petrol on gas. i think its bonnet is bigger which lets the air in from all directions and keep the things cool :p
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    i have khyber 1998 and the guage stays around 25-35% in even extream weathers which is infact the beauty of dis car guys....

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    Bro had same issue we were not sure if the guage is right :p Bought tracktor heat guage around 200Rs put it in your radiator water and it will show you the correct temp :p our was exactly the same.
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    my 89 swifts temp needle goes upto 40% with ac on cng in summers!

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    Xulfiqar
    I would also like to add - that Ive seen some cars in which electricians installed a bulb in series - it placed a resistive load on the circuit which made the gauge read lower.. I literally wanted to shoot the person who did that, the engine was overheating like crazy to the point of head warping due to stripped threads in the block for a headbolt. All this and the gauge was only registering 10% heat.

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    Although this thread discusses Khyber, but I am facing same issue with my Mehran 2004. Recently, I bought a genuine Temperature gauge from bilal gunj (coz the original temp gauge was broken by the stupid mechanic while changing head gasket). Since the day of installation, it hardly goes to 20-30 % mark which is strange, given that the previous one worked normally showing the temp needle at half most of the time while driving.

    Note that radiator fan is on automatic setting plus the thermostat valve has been removed. (since its summer nowadays). Another change I have observed is that with the previous gauge, the run-time of fan was like for about 15-20 seconds at most. Secondly, it used to start working while the temperature needle reached at about 40%..just near to half mark. But, now things have changed considerably. On automatic setting, Fan starts at 25% and at times, its Running duration is a bit longer...30-35 seconds!!

    My question is, is it all normal? Was the previous switch malfunctioning?

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    Did the mechanic take out the Thermostat? - and using an old thermosensor is bad itself, get a new part from suzuki.
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    weird..
    ive khyber for like 3 years now n it always show 50% gauge asnormal..
    my frnd has khyber 95 n its normal is 50%..my other frnd has n its all same i mean 50 %...n never had over heationg issues...
    plus i have both thermostat valve and switch in khyber plus ZIC coolant..n new radiator n all...if khyber had 30% normal,mine shud have been same...!
    so i will say 50% is half mark..
    if it had to be 30% ,so it means car is operating at normal temp right???so if car is over heating,it will go to H mark,i.e 100% of gauge..now if 30% is let say 100'C,then 100% wud b 3 times right??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    Did the mechanic take out the Thermostat? - and using an old thermosensor is bad itself, get a new part from suzuki.

    I am not sure whether he took it out or not. It may have been taken out long before by the previous owner.

    I have asked my colleagues about this case. They say that in Suzuki cars specially in Mehrans manufactured before 2005, this temperature gauge setting is normal. Nowadays as soon as you start the engine, then needle shoots to mid mark in no time even in new cars. This setting has been adapted by all car manufacturers nowadays. And according to them, why worry about temperature not reaching half mark...its good for engine!!!

    As far as new part from suzuki si concerned..Unfortunately, my understanding is that they may not be reliable and at times, they even are faulty. What do you say?

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