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    Default Khyber: Gas Kit changed - Oil started reducing

    Dear Fellows,

    I have a khyber 96 model in very very execellent condition. A month ago, it got heat up and the radiator got almost empty bcoz the cap of the spare bottle was not tighten & all water came out that way. I filled the water in radiator but the car temp guage started moving till its half. So, I consulted my mechanic. He recommended to change the gas kit of the car as the car was making bubbles as seen in the radiator.
    The time car was parked in the workshop, it was hardly driven 1KM way from my home. The mechanic kept waiting for the car cooling down for almost 5/6 hours. (as he said that if we open the car head in warm condition, the car may start blowing smoke getting impact on RINGS).
    Works done:-
    1. The head required a little facing that was done by MAGIC DEPOXY.
    2. Gas Kit changed.
    3. Timing Belt Cover changed.
    4. Caborator washed.
    5. Head cleaning.
    6. Total Quartz 3000 CNG Engine Oil + GAURD Fuel Filter Changed.

    & I spent Rs. 5000/- in total.

    Before doing all this, my car Silencer was almost dry widout any smoke almost and the car never sucked engine oil. But the radiator water goes down every day by day.
    After changing Gas kit and washing the head & carborator of the car (the valves or engine base was not cleaned at all).....now my car doesn't sucks the radiator water at all but started sucking engine oil when I checked after 1300 KM drive.

    Now, a little/minor smoke comes out of the silencer if I accelerate the car a lot. But the car runs and sounds normal. Today when I was looking at the silencer, some missing was sensed also from the silencer sound.


    Concluding all the facts, I want to know by your kind expertise that whether after some time this oil reduction will be off or will go on and on now. As my mechanic says may be in the next oil change, it won't suck oil.
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    No reply even after an hour almost.....
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    did u clean the head with petrol / Kerosene oil (mate ka tail)?

    did u clean the full head means rings, cameshafts etc full head?

    if yes then u car will give somoke

    now dont wory and dirive as loong as possible let the car smoke and once the oil start coming on plugs then over haul the engine.

    Dont change only piston ring its a temp. hal not long lasting after 6-7 months smoke again start

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    @Hammadsiddiqui Thx for your response......

    Head was not opened in parts, but just from the gas kit face. The mechanic cleaned the head outer with Petrol.

    Not all the head was clean, just from outer as it was a little dusty. Mechanic knew these matters that is why he didn't touched these things.

    Is that true that may be after getting some carbon inside, the car may stop sucking the engine oil?
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    Any more good suggestions???
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    I need some other experts input plz
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    hi , all i wanna know is that , u said facing was done with magic depoxy ,, do u think its a facing tool?

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    i must add , the proper word is head gasket not gas kit

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    @rolx
    The head gas kit required a little facing. So, it was not recommended by mechanic to get it welding and then facing it (bcoz after getting heat, the head gets a little pumped up and may face problem in proper installation). So, he did it by Magic Depoxy, when it got dried then placed the head gas kit and installed with engine.

    and other,,, dear I don't think about it being a facing tool or not. That all was as per recommendations.

    Now, you plz tell me what I wanna know whether after some time (after getting carbon inside) this oil reduction will be off or will go on.
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    Did Mechanic after applying Magic Deposing used Sand Paper as to get Surf normal it needs Sand Paper rubbing, n didi u changed the GASkit with Double GASKIt or single asin Double Proper Stroke is not thr so Car Reduces Engine Oil, r u using Coolant n Fan is Direct or Automatic.

    BTW Rs 5000/- is way high i think Thrice the cost u paid i got tht within Rs 1200/- involving all Components n Labour Cost.
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    @Porsche_Maker

    1. The Magic Depoxy was applied by the Kharadiya on tiny spots of head and then was rubbed properly by the machine to make the surface smooth.

    2. The head gaskit installed was single but was a little thicker than normal (people speaks about that when the head gets facing, then we should install thicker gaskit).

    3. I am using Coolant n Fan is Direct.

    Plz tell me whether after some time, the oil reduction would be finished or not? Car silencer is a little greasy/oily.
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    no more experts here?
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    hi,
    mr shahzad i read ur post and i get the result that u give to much moneyto your mechanic and your mechanic is not a good mechanic too u said u already drive 1300 kms after work done i think thats to much to make ur engine works back to normal just keep track your feul usage too if ur car using more fuel than before that work than something is wrong with your engine and if every thing is normal then go have ur car checked from another mechanic and explain him the all situation may be there is a small leak in your any engine seal check for the spots in the morning whern u start ur car i think its seal leak and that is normal in old cars but have it checked some other mechanic
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    @afridino1

    Thx for your input. Sorry to all, I think I shouldn't have mentioned the amount I spent....Infact I gave him wage (mazdoori) Rs. 1500/- and all other money was spent on new things including water body purchase and some repairs.
    Well, that mechanic is a renowned mechanic in this area and makes engines of a lot of cars/jeeps etc.

    Before putting the head gaskit, he was talking like this that after fixing the things up some cars start blwing smoke etc.

    There is no leakage down from the car wherever I park it, I kept on noticing this. My car was not blowing smoke before getting this work done, so it is clear that its not the oil leakage from some of the seals, bcoz my car silencer now seems to be oily/greasy.
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    @shahzad

    Does he apply Silicon Tube before Putting Gasket n also why u changed Water Body does ur car have any Leakage Problem from Water Body, normally it is recognised by fact tht at lower Tempertaure Water comes out fromWater Body but when Engine is at its Noraml Running Temperature it didnt leak Water.

    As i told u i got similar treatment n My Mechanic Didnt Tighten the Tappet Cover so i saw Oil on Cover n underneath i closed it n i drove it alot no Oil Reduction

    I think in ur case some Seal/Joint is not Properly placed n it Using Engine Oil in Combustion due to which its Smoking.
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    @Porsche_Maker

    Thx a zillion bro. But plz ellaborate your car case a little more.
    My water body when opened was apparently leaking and had rust in it and previously it was reducing rediator water as well.
    Yes, he used some GUM/silicon to past the GasKit with Head.

    Plz tell me the remedy of this case as well. My car has a little smoke now, not too much. But I am taken preventive measures before it takes the worst direction.

    Otherwise, my ride is a superb drive, no rust in the body of car and totally in its own condition.
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    He should have checked the rings for sure when the head was opened. In small displacement engines the rings give way sooner on cng than on petrol.
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    @bluntknife
    Thx dear, but he didn't touched the base of engine and placed a cloth over it. Bcoz he didn't need to play with other things like that or wot.
    Plz tell me the remedy of this case as well. My car has a little smoke now, not too much. But I am taken preventive measures before it takes the worst direction.

    Otherwise, my ride is a superb drive, no rust in the body of car and totally in its own condition.
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    Could be an oil leak which might possibly be cus of the changed gasket.
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    @ahsan1702

    Thx dear......

    Plz tell me the remedy of this case as well. My car has a little smoke now, not too much. But I am taken preventive measures before it takes the worst direction.
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