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    Default suzuki liana over heating!! help please

    I have suzuki liana 2006, it was working fine since years but from few weeks its over heating I washed radiator, changed thermostats wall then removal wall but still its overheating on long drive even without ac. Who is best mechanic to change gas kid in Karachi

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizkhan2010 View Post
    ^^ i beg to differ. Its not the fault of design of Liana or Honda engines, its our second rate maintenance habits, which can overheat & destroy even a Mercedes.
    Mechanics don’t find this vehicle as user friendly, in-order to change the thermostat valve they have to open far many things and spend a lot of time, in-order to change belts then again they have to open far many things before gaining access to it. Once head gas kit is changed then yet it’s another problem how to bleed system from Air. Mechanic had to change the CV joints then again he had to do it thrice and it was a different mechanic this time. Every time once work on CV joint would complete then it would not simply hold up. CV joints gave up much earlier as compared to Honda and corolla in my garage. Gear oil was changed on time but still gear change is not as smooth. I got it readjusted but somehow problem remains in-tact. This is vehicle which works but problem is how friendly the Mechanics find the vehicle. That’s why I said, its not a good design. Yup, primarily because of not trained mechanics and difficulty to access different parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raaj81 View Post
    Thanks dear, I'm facing same bubbles in the radiator water, as in normal run car don't get heat, but for run of 200 plus km it shows high signs of heat and losing of water.... But if radiator cap removed it showing small bubbles in the water. As radiator cap is original purchased from Suzuki motors.
    bubbles in Radiator is a sign of blown head gas kit.

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    Good point in discussion is Suzuki has estimate of 28000 to change gas kit, wTf

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    Quote Originally Posted by raaj81 View Post
    Good point in discussion is Suzuki has estimate of 28000 to change gas kit, wTf
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    Total: Labor 3000

    Gaskit: 500 Rs

    Kharadia: maximum Rs 500

    Radiator cap: 300

    Thermostat valve: Rs 900 geniun

    Radiator servicing: Rs 500

    Hoses change: Maximum 1000 for genuine including each and everyone

    Total: 6700.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raaj81 View Post
    I have suzuki liana 2006, it was working fine since years but from few weeks its over heating I washed radiator, changed thermostats wall then removal wall but still its overheating on long drive even without ac. Who is best mechanic to change gas kid in Karachi
    Have you been putting proper coolant mixture in the radiator or has it been running on plain tap water.
    Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangel View Post
    Have you been putting proper coolant mixture in the radiator or has it been running on plain tap water.
    Yes proper coolant is used such as Osaka.. value 250PKR

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    Dear All, I experience a new point i think one of friend shared comment to remove tappet cover and tight the head cover bolts. As it was difficult to tight all, so One bolt was tight, and i run car today 50+ KM on AC and 60KM without AC, Everything was working great.. No bottle full of water, no heat gauge on upper side.

    I think if i visit expert to tight all head cover bolts that may resovle the problem, Also i saw now no more bubbles in the radiator water.

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    Hey, i visit mechanic and implemented your advice, as it was hard to tight all bolts, but one bolt was tighten but i found good difference in the performance. Run the car on AC for 50+ KM and heat issue was calm, bottle water was at same as in morning. I think if all bolts tighten that may resolve the issue. I WISH...

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    the mechanic did not use a torque ratchet to tighten the head and most probably did not use the OE headgasket either. Doing that is asking for trouble.

    similar with your axle problem, if you over fill the axle boot with grease it will blow out, if you use multipurpose grease it will melt and destroy the joint, the correct way is to weigh the grease and install it.
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    I'm facing good improvement as I run car on AC now and feeling no heat. But actual result appear when I run the car on 200 plus KM and it must run smooth. Will surely keep it up in loop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by talhawaleed View Post
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    Thanks Talha!!! You rock great example but surely keep you update how it work...

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    Wink suzuki liana over heating!! help please

    can i suggest u some things,
    first do a leak down test it tells u every thing , if u not sure ask any mechanic.
    and if u gasket is blown just buy a new engine rather then spending big money to rebuilt engine,
    if not sure ask me i explain u how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asrizz View Post
    can i suggest u some things,
    first do a leak down test it tells u every thing , if u not sure ask any mechanic.
    and if u gasket is blown just buy a new engine rather then spending big money to rebuilt engine,
    if not sure ask me i explain u how it works.
    I did yaar and even second engine is over heating. I am stuck with this heatup issue for the whole Ramadan. I am now having silver block Swift engine. Please give me your number for guidance.

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    I had to change the freaking engine....and than it got resolved.......

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    Heating is manufactering fault in liana specially 2006 and 2007 model I have seen 30k km driven liana used to come in carachi motor for head overhaul plus radiator replacement lol

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    anybody can reconmnded me a good mechanic in karachi for liana heating issue,i have checked for radiator guys,they tell me issue is with engine head side or may be thermostat valve,radiator is ok,i need a good mechanic who understand liana.


    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by iabozdar View Post
    anybody can reconmnded me a good mechanic in karachi for liana heating issue,i have checked for radiator guys,they tell me issue is with engine head side or may be thermostat valve,radiator is ok,i need a good mechanic who understand liana.


    regards
    i give my liana to two mechanics in my area. they are wonderful!

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    once I faced over heating issue in liana I got to many mechanic all suggest gasket replacement

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    there no syntoms of gaskit blown I came back home check everything pushed the fuse of radiatar fan drove like 50 on full throttle the needle didn't raise a lil bit fron the c mark from guage

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    once I faced over heating issue in liana I got to many mechanic all suggest gasket replacement there no syntoms of gaskit blown I came back home check everything pushed the fuse of radiatar fan drove like 50 on full throttle the needle didn't raise a lil bit fron the c mark from guage

    Lianas needle should be half way up, a little less then half if your cars didnt, Your car definetly needs a mechanic
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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