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# Thread: Installation of CNG HTBRID SYSTEM in Suzuki Liana 2006 model

1. ## Installation of CNG HYBRID SYSTEM in Suzuki Liana 2006 model

Suzuki Liana 2006 original engined swapped with 5a-fe 1.6 corolla engine

picture's and test log's of CNG HYBRID SYSTEM are detailed below.
front view

engine bay

control panel of CNG HYBRID SYSTEM

new control panel
pictures are on page no 8

test result's
Suzuki Liana 2006
Log's And test Result's

Vehicle Fuel Average on Petrol is 10 km/L on long Route's Max
CNG Cylinder's Average on long route's is 150 km max as per our customer knowledge.

But when we check it's economy it was 110 km on full CNG tank.

The fuel price now a day's price of petrol is approx 103rs / L

Average Cost Calculation of petrol per km is 103rs / 10 km = 10.3 rs / Km

CNG Cylinder is filled in 700 rs

Average Cost Calculation of CNG per Km is 700 rs / 110 km = 6.363 rs / Km

After the installation of CNG hybrid System in this vehicle the petrol fuel was leaned out to 300 % ( leaned out ? petrol kam kar diya ).

Millage of petrol jumps from 10 km /L to 80 km /L which was 700% result.
Note : Please Read the detail log of test run to better understand this system.

It was an amazing experience with us that we were commanding the vehicle ECU to lean the fuel mixture to 300 % but the output was 700% we than tested the vehicle at this mode in a liter it gave us 80 km approximately but the CNG consumption was very high in this setting mode. So i decided to readjust the fuel mixture and decided to start from 50 % leaning. After several hour's of readjustment of fuel mixture we stabled it to 75% but again the result was 320 % and it gave us 40 km in a liter and the CNG consumption was better from the previous setting's. We drained all of the fuel from the fuel tank and started our test drive we filled only 3 liter of fuel in the tank to check the average of petrol once again on Factory setting the 3 liters ended on total 27 km distance from Chahsultan to Tarnol via Kashmir highway route. We filled it again with 5 liter and started our journey to Lawrence pur in the way we filled more 5 liter fuel for ease ( not to disrupt our journey) after reaching lawrance pur we came to know that CNG is available in Jandiyan chowk on route to Ghazi brotha which is 13 km from the main GT road. we filled our CNG tank from GHAZI CNG station in jhandiyan chowk. The pressure was bit low 120 bar's max total CNG tank filled in 500 rs.
My mechanic again drained all of the petrol from the tank to test the vehicle milage now with CNG HYBRID SYSTEM. We filled only 2 liter's of the fuel in the tank and started our journey to nowshera the 2 liter petrol ended on 83.4 km on the trip meter one thing i forgot to mention here our speed on GT road was max 140 km and normal 100km . We again refiled the petrol 2 liter's more and it lasts up to 80 km. The total distance we traveled from the CNG station to Nowshehra and back to pindi was 267 km and total petrol we filled in this distance was 6.67 liter's approx and the CNG cylinder still had 60 bar gas in it and according to our calculation the fully filled CNG cylinder in this car will last up to 433km on long route's and local route's calculation will be updated in few day's InshaAllah.
Here are the result's

We traveled total 267 km from the GAS station in Ghazi and the total distancewhich was showed on trip meter. And the total fuel consumed by this vehicle was 686.7 rs petrol + 310 rs CNG = 997 rs in 267 km distance.

Total cost average calculation
total Distance travelled 267 km + - 2 km
Total cost of fuel's consumed in 267km is : 997 rs

997 Rs / 267 km = 3.73 Rs/km.

If this trip is compared to other fuel's cost's

On Petrol total cost in 267 km are : Rs 3055.6667 Rs
On CNG total cost in 267 km are : Rs 1699.0909 Rs

Total saving in these trip's as compared to other fuel's are below.

PETROL:
3055 Rs - 997 Rs = 2058 Rs saved total 67.3 % saved as compared to Petrol price.

CNG :

1699 Rs - 997 Rs = 702 Rs saved total 41.7 % Saved as compared to CNG price.

NOTE: Another Advantage of our CNG HYBRID SYSTEM IS there is no harm to the vehicle engine at all as compared to CNG if we run an vehicle engine completely on CNG.

More Result's will be posted soon due to the shortage of time we cannot take the picture's and write up the test log's of the vehicle completed by our team.
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And one more important thing to mention here that no filling's need in the whole way and no speed limitation's to follow to get economy. As people says I drive at 60km/h and get 14 km/l and if he drives at 120 km/h he will get 10km/l or 9 km/l no limitation at all.

another advantage of our system is .there is no harm to the vehicle engine at all as compared if we run an vehicle engine completely on CNG.

Mod Edit: Closing thread. It has fulfilled its purpose.

2. Originally Posted by Xulfiqar
if you are leaning out the mixture of gasoline to a range of 40:1 - compensating with another fuel to bring back to 14:1 - I get it, beautiful, BUT

the ECU you are working works in linear mode only, if you are telling it to lean out fuel it will trim timing to the extent of being lazy and retarded. The GDI engines can trim their mixtures to 40:1 on cruise but immediately get back to stoich when power is needed, its injection map and ignition control map are different depending on mode.
@Xulfiqar sir plz tell every body here, is it possible or not? a simple yes or no would be enough..

3. Originally Posted by umarkhan1
Is me nei koi shak
1 liter me 80 km tak
Yar itna to mra nya 70 bhi nei karta
Sath mein 2 KG CNG bhi to combust ho gae hai na

4. interesting ..............

5. Originally Posted by gujar96
theek hai bhai jaldi se apne us dost ko bulain aur uski average fit krwaien im waiting agr 20 bhi ho jaye to buht hai kiunke meri gari full tank me 420-450km deti hai without a/c with a/c 350tk deti hai... seriously 7th gen vti walou ko buht faida ho jaye ga agr apka tajarba kamyaab ho gya, but cng aur petrol mix krein ge?
bro i'll also get this if your vti gave a good result

6. Originally Posted by Sharo53
han g atta sahb yahi karain ge...
Bhai ji Insha Allah 35+ average jaie gi in a liter bhai saab ki honda ki

7. Originally Posted by atta1111
Bhai ji Insha Allah 35+ average jaie gi in a liter bhai saab ki honda ki
5afe 80 km/l kare gi tu yeh itna kam kuin hai?

8. Originally Posted by zia1288
5afe 80 km/l kare gi tu yeh itna kam kuin hai?
40kpl he said bro

9. Originally Posted by zia1288
5afe 80 km/l kare gi tu yeh itna kam kuin hai?
zia bhai 5a-fe ki peak average responce 80km/l tha lekin us ko kam kar ke 40 km/l par laya gaya taake CNG ki bachat hoo sakay. aur agar honda ki peak average mallom karni hai to plz kuch din wait karein mein us ki peak average test kar ke is forum par post kar doun ga.

10. Originally Posted by bravo122
okay
tell me where and when will come to u and test it out?

LETS SEE IF THIS IS REAL OR NOT
brother contact on my cell phone no for appointment 0311-5135516

11. called n talk to Mr Atta in quite detail today,cleared up all my confusions atleast
thanks for taking out that much time,it was nice talking to u.
hopefully will visit you soon

12. Asalamualikum Brother what about if we want to just run it on CNG after installing this system .Will it work the same as in normal CNG mode?
2ndly what is the cost for this device and the time for installing and running all the checks?

13. Lahore me ap ki koi franchise ha kiya :/

14. I am also try this chip on my Suzuki Kei 660cc. Work is in progress. I'll share my results on forum as soon as it completes. My vehicle is single fuel i.e. Petrol. Lets see what the result is.........

15. nothing is impossible. if this is working perfectly , its blessing for us. Bahi can u share the expenditures on this system. what are the charges. reply,

16. Originally Posted by chaudhary9
called n talk to Mr Atta in quite detail today,cleared up all my confusions atleast
thanks for taking out that much time,it was nice talking to u.
hopefully will visit you soon
Please enlighten us too, what you gained from that discussion ...

17. Originally Posted by mfdarvesh
Please enlighten us too, what you gained from that discussion ...
it was a long discussion but few things,you should call for that matter

18. Originally Posted by addikted
Asalamualikum Brother what about if we want to just run it on CNG after installing this system .Will it work the same as in normal CNG mode?
2ndly what is the cost for this device and the time for installing and running all the checks?
Bhai ji we had tried to run a vehicle completly on cng after our system installation but the switches in the panel increase and for normal person it become a mess. and also when the people try our system they dont shift back to the alone CNG because they don't want to refill the CNG as routine fill up.

19. Originally Posted by syedburhanahmad
Lahore me ap ki koi franchise ha kiya :/
I am so sorry we dont have any franchise in Lahore.

20. Originally Posted by khyber95
nothing is impossible. if this is working perfectly , its blessing for us. Bahi can u share the expenditures on this system. what are the charges. reply,
dear brother as i said before on the other thread that i cannot compleate the demand. because i am the only person who manufacture all of the thing's related to our system and also install it and make adjustment's so it is difficult to give an average price for this device. plz wait for few more time thank's

21. any working principle?

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