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# Thread: Installation of CNG HTBRID SYSTEM in Suzuki Liana 2006 model

1. ## Installation of CNG HYBRID SYSTEM in Suzuki Liana 2006 model

Suzuki Liana 2006 original engined swapped with 5a-fe 1.6 corolla engine

picture's and test log's of CNG HYBRID SYSTEM are detailed below.
front view

engine bay

control panel of CNG HYBRID SYSTEM

new control panel
pictures are on page no 8

test result's
Suzuki Liana 2006
Log's And test Result's

Vehicle Fuel Average on Petrol is 10 km/L on long Route's Max
CNG Cylinder's Average on long route's is 150 km max as per our customer knowledge.

But when we check it's economy it was 110 km on full CNG tank.

The fuel price now a day's price of petrol is approx 103rs / L

Average Cost Calculation of petrol per km is 103rs / 10 km = 10.3 rs / Km

CNG Cylinder is filled in 700 rs

Average Cost Calculation of CNG per Km is 700 rs / 110 km = 6.363 rs / Km

After the installation of CNG hybrid System in this vehicle the petrol fuel was leaned out to 300 % ( leaned out ? petrol kam kar diya ).

Millage of petrol jumps from 10 km /L to 80 km /L which was 700% result.
Note : Please Read the detail log of test run to better understand this system.

It was an amazing experience with us that we were commanding the vehicle ECU to lean the fuel mixture to 300 % but the output was 700% we than tested the vehicle at this mode in a liter it gave us 80 km approximately but the CNG consumption was very high in this setting mode. So i decided to readjust the fuel mixture and decided to start from 50 % leaning. After several hour's of readjustment of fuel mixture we stabled it to 75% but again the result was 320 % and it gave us 40 km in a liter and the CNG consumption was better from the previous setting's. We drained all of the fuel from the fuel tank and started our test drive we filled only 3 liter of fuel in the tank to check the average of petrol once again on Factory setting the 3 liters ended on total 27 km distance from Chahsultan to Tarnol via Kashmir highway route. We filled it again with 5 liter and started our journey to Lawrence pur in the way we filled more 5 liter fuel for ease ( not to disrupt our journey) after reaching lawrance pur we came to know that CNG is available in Jandiyan chowk on route to Ghazi brotha which is 13 km from the main GT road. we filled our CNG tank from GHAZI CNG station in jhandiyan chowk. The pressure was bit low 120 bar's max total CNG tank filled in 500 rs.
My mechanic again drained all of the petrol from the tank to test the vehicle milage now with CNG HYBRID SYSTEM. We filled only 2 liter's of the fuel in the tank and started our journey to nowshera the 2 liter petrol ended on 83.4 km on the trip meter one thing i forgot to mention here our speed on GT road was max 140 km and normal 100km . We again refiled the petrol 2 liter's more and it lasts up to 80 km. The total distance we traveled from the CNG station to Nowshehra and back to pindi was 267 km and total petrol we filled in this distance was 6.67 liter's approx and the CNG cylinder still had 60 bar gas in it and according to our calculation the fully filled CNG cylinder in this car will last up to 433km on long route's and local route's calculation will be updated in few day's InshaAllah.
Here are the result's

We traveled total 267 km from the GAS station in Ghazi and the total distancewhich was showed on trip meter. And the total fuel consumed by this vehicle was 686.7 rs petrol + 310 rs CNG = 997 rs in 267 km distance.

Total cost average calculation
total Distance travelled 267 km + - 2 km
Total cost of fuel's consumed in 267km is : 997 rs

997 Rs / 267 km = 3.73 Rs/km.

If this trip is compared to other fuel's cost's

On Petrol total cost in 267 km are : Rs 3055.6667 Rs
On CNG total cost in 267 km are : Rs 1699.0909 Rs

Total saving in these trip's as compared to other fuel's are below.

PETROL:
3055 Rs - 997 Rs = 2058 Rs saved total 67.3 % saved as compared to Petrol price.

CNG :

1699 Rs - 997 Rs = 702 Rs saved total 41.7 % Saved as compared to CNG price.

NOTE: Another Advantage of our CNG HYBRID SYSTEM IS there is no harm to the vehicle engine at all as compared to CNG if we run an vehicle engine completely on CNG.

More Result's will be posted soon due to the shortage of time we cannot take the picture's and write up the test log's of the vehicle completed by our team.
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And one more important thing to mention here that no filling's need in the whole way and no speed limitation's to follow to get economy. As people says I drive at 60km/h and get 14 km/l and if he drives at 120 km/h he will get 10km/l or 9 km/l no limitation at all.

another advantage of our system is .there is no harm to the vehicle engine at all as compared if we run an vehicle engine completely on CNG.

Mod Edit: Closing thread. It has fulfilled its purpose.

2. AOA

Dear "atta1111"

is your system for EFI engines only or carburators too?

aap ne kisi small car mien bhi fit kiya hy system like (cuore,khyber,Mira,Mehran)

AOA

Dear "atta1111"

is your system for EFI engines only or carburators too?

aap ne kisi small car mien bhi fit kiya hy system like (cuore,khyber,Mira,Mehran)
dear brother this system is only for efi engines ranging from 500cc upto 6500cc . and yes it can be installed in D Mira Mehran EFi.

4. Hmmm, its hard to believe just yet, will wait and see what you have to share so that we can believe it and spend some money on this system. I am assuming this is expensive.

5. what the appox cost of it.... bro?

6. Originally Posted by themann4u
what the appox cost of it.... bro?
brother we had not yet decided the cost of this system. plz wait until then and i am also trying to reduce the cost as much lower as possible.

7. Originally Posted by atta1111
brother we had not yet decided the cost of this system. plz wait until then and i am also trying to reduce the cost as much lower as possible.
ok so whats the approx cost of it now......?

8. Originally Posted by themann4u
ok so whats the approx cost of it now......?
brother call me at my cell at 0311-5135516 for more detail's

9. I have a liana can it works on its stock engine and ff kit?

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10. Originally Posted by aahoo04
I am also try this chip on my Suzuki Kei 660cc. Work is in progress. I'll share my results on forum as soon as it completes. My vehicle is single fuel i.e. Petrol. Lets see what the result is.........
My project not yet completed..........................
Still waiting.............

11. sorry guys i was little busy with some of my personal work's that's why i cannot reply on this forum.

12. Originally Posted by aahoo04
My project not yet completed..........................
Still waiting.............
sorry Khurshid Bhai I was busy and cannot spare some time for you please visit my workshop at 29-4-2013 to complete the remaining work in your car. thanks

13. Originally Posted by hasooboy
I have a liana can it works on its stock engine and ff kit?

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Yes our system can be installed in Factory fitted CNG liana. I had completed one with FF cng but my customer was not agreed to post his car's picture's on this form. so we are bounded with their privacy as well

14. Originally Posted by atta1111
MashaAllah bari knowledge hai aap ko agar mazeed maloomat chaheye to mujh say aaa kar mill lein ya apna pata bata dein mein nay 25 april ko karachi aana hai beth kar discussion kar letay hain pata chal jai ga aap ko.

Sir !!!! your visit is conferm naaa.....

im still waiting for my quistions reply''''''''''''''''''''''

Sir !!!! your visit is conferm naaa.....

im still waiting for my quistions reply''''''''''''''''''''''
yes brother my visit is confirm insha Allah i will arrive today at 10pm will inform you.

16. my 5afe give 7km /litre
it must be 80 meters

17. Originally Posted by atta1111
Yes our system can be installed in Factory fitted CNG liana. I had completed one with FF cng but my customer was not agreed to post his car's picture's on this form. so we are bounded with their privacy as well
no lame excuses u can hide the # plates

18. @ atta1111

i am sorry dude my mind is not accepting ur piece of Technology,i dont know how it is possible to achieve so much efficiency by mixing 2 different fuels in a deliberate ratio. if it is so much efficient then why Automotive Engineers are sleeping? Why everyone is doing research on Hybrid Electric Vehicle??

to me it looks nothing more than Agha Waqar Ahmed Technology.

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...cu-using-dspic

Regards

AOA 2 AlL !!After reading so many posts from Mr., Atta1111.... I have some Question?s!!As they claimed this kit is for EFI engines, All EFI engines have electric injectors for manage fuel quantity as per command from ECM,ECM take electronic signals from TPS, MAP, RPM & lambda sensors then ECM calculate the fuel requirement of the engine & send signals to Fuel injectors in pulses,- like injector opening time in m/seconds for one 360 cycle of crank shaft- If we work on Suzuki liana?s engine (M13) its 1328cc. on idle condition without any electrical load on engine the petrol injection time is 3.7 m/seconds ~ 4.7 m/seconds. It?s checked with (Auto boss engine scanner) by myself. So if you are going to reduce the original petrol mileage from 15Km/liter To ??Km/liter how can you manage the original ECM programing,Please explain
yes its possible to alter the fuel injector pulse width without doing any modifications in stock ECU, i can design a Module which can be installed in between stock ECU & Injector just like an ordinary ?Emulator Unit? without cutting any wires, with a variable POT you can set the desired injector width attenuation factor.

20. @ hameeds01

thanks for the idea i need this for my ride please send me sms on cell # 03362551099

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