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    Quote Originally Posted by abid110 View Post
    Is fixing this a laborious job?
    Ashfaq's junior mechanic Kashif changed mine in just 10-15 minutes.

    BTW, my car was overheating and coolant was reducing about 1 liter a day. Therefore, the thermostat valve has now been removed that I had installed brand new last month (bought from Haji Autos, Plaza) and made the fan direct. This way, the engine performance and fuel average have been affected but eventually my car can stay on the roads as much I desire, rather than visiting mechanics again and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfniazi View Post
    Ashfaq's junior mechanic Kashif changed mine in just 10-15 minutes.

    BTW, my car was overheating and coolant was reducing about 1 liter a day. Therefore, the thermostat valve has now been removed that I had installed brand new last month (bought from Haji Autos, Plaza) and made the fan direct. This way, the engine performance and fuel average have been affected but eventually my car can stay on the roads as much I desire, rather than visiting mechanics again and again.
    Car started overheating after head swap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    Car started overheating after head swap?
    Unfortunately, yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfniazi View Post
    Unfortunately, yes!
    Hate to say it but it looks like ashfaq wrapped a perfectly good head than tried to cover it by removing t.valve

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    Especially when you have a engine with steel sleeve which can bear more wear and tear than iron block engine
    Quote Originally Posted by mfniazi View Post
    Ashfaq's junior mechanic Kashif changed mine in just 10-15 minutes.

    BTW, my car was overheating and coolant was reducing about 1 liter a day. Therefore, the thermostat valve has now been removed that I had installed brand new last month (bought from Haji Autos, Plaza) and made the fan direct. This way, the engine performance and fuel average have been affected but eventually my car can stay on the roads as much I desire, rather than visiting mechanics again and again.
    So your mechanic just pointed his fingers at the t.stat and didn't even bother to check for the underlying issues that were the real cause of the overheating and coolant reduction? There could literally have been a ton of other issues. Blown H.Gasket, t.stat stuck in close position, leaking head/block (something he worked on just before the issue arised), clogged radiator. The consequences of removing the t.stat have been mentioned over and over on these forums and I hope people start taking these advice's seriously.

    Read this. I hope it helps all of you who run their cars without the t.stat.

    http://www.salemboysauto.com/faqs/faq-19.htm
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    Hi..I have M15A japanese engine in my liana from last 5 years & I have changed its gasket 2 times becuase of over heating now the tappets are giving annoying sound also gear box and clutch plates are weak ...I m going to change the engine with M13a and gear box any good suggestion regarding my engine change????

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    Got the injectures cleaned using ASNU Fuel Injector Testing & Cleaning

    The injectores were not very dirty as i am using high octane and the throw of all the injectores was also equal in the testing phase before cleaning Alhumdullilah, they cleaned it using some liquid, i forgot the name of the liquid


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    Also got the tappets (shims) adjusted a few days back

    Got this done just as a precaution although apparently there was no problem, this was done for the first time since i bought the car

    But after getting it adjusted did feel a change specially in the pick and response of the car when i press the accelerator

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    The shim

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    Quote Originally Posted by devils_smile View Post
    If you know what your doing, I don't see how playing with the electronics should be a problem. The only problem I know off is that working on a cars electronics that has been messed about through our ustaads almost always ends up in a disaster. I had these issues with the Xtrail and Liana. I had to back track on both cars to figure out wtf was causing all the electrical problems and it was almost always a spliced wire that had branches of wires connected to it. We replaced the whole wiring harness on the Liana and I fixed the whole wiring harness on the Xtrail. Problem solved. You can now do as many DIYs with the electronics as you want if you do them correctly.
    Absolutely right! I "undid" all the tapes and cutting with my 85' G11 previously. Learned a ton about cars. I had a box full of electric jumper, male and female and a roll of good quality wire. Had it running so strong eventually that I went upto Malam Jabba and Thandiani on CNG. Not to mention reversing all the cooling system jugaarrs i.e Tstat and dirent fan.

    Quote Originally Posted by devils_smile View Post
    I've updated the post. Forgot to mention something in there. Changing a throttle cable is a basic DIY. Worry about electronics on these cars and never directly spray water or oil on these engines. One of our drivers did and I ended up with a complete m18 swap.
    Why did you have to do a swap? All issues can be resolved as you mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omer85 View Post
    Got the injectures cleaned using ASNU Fuel Injector Testing & Cleaning

    The injectores were not very dirty as i am using high octane and the throw of all the injectores was also equal in the testing phase before cleaning Alhumdullilah, they cleaned it using some liquid, i forgot the name of the liquid


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    From where did you get it done in ISB?

    Quote Originally Posted by omer85 View Post
    Also got the tappets (shims) adjusted a few days back

    Got this done just as a precaution although apparently there was no problem, this was done for the first time since i bought the car

    But after getting it adjusted did feel a change specially in the pick and response of the car when i press the accelerator

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    The shim

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    Same question. Where was this done? BTW, thumbs up on your maintenance of the car. That is one clean Liana Mashallah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaamz81 View Post
    Hi..I have M15A japanese engine in my liana from last 5 years & I have changed its gasket 2 times becuase of over heating now the tappets are giving annoying sound also gear box and clutch plates are weak ...I m going to change the engine with M13a and gear box any good suggestion regarding my engine change????
    You would hate your life after swapping m13a

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    Quote Originally Posted by omer85 View Post
    Also got the tappets (shims) adjusted a few days back

    Got this done just as a precaution although apparently there was no problem, this was done for the first time since i bought the car

    But after getting it adjusted did feel a change specially in the pick and response of the car when i press the accelerator


    The shim
    How many were out of required thickness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proverbial_Slang View Post
    From where did you get it done in ISB?



    Same question. Where was this done? BTW, thumbs up on your maintenance of the car. That is one clean Liana Mashallah.
    JazakAllah

    The fuel injectors were cleaned from Concept motors I-9, it was a few months back, at that time they charged Rs.3000/- for fuel injector + Throttle body cleaning

    The tappets (shims) were adjusted by Nasir Kharadia near peerwadhai moor a few days back, very famous over there its been like more then 25 years since his shop is there, normally he charges Rs.1250/- for this work shims included, he charged me Rs.950/-, when i went there Nasir Kharadia himself was not there his son Muneeb did the job for me that's why may be he charged less. the company quoted me almost Rs.3000 for the same job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    How many were out of required thickness?
    i think 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by omer85 View Post
    i think 5
    Shims were of hardened steel or just simple steel shim

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    Shims were of hardened steel or just simple steel shim
    Don't know that, but i only asked him are these the same like the original ones you are removing from the car he said yes they had different numbers on them even the ones he replaced like 240, 250, 255, etc

    Just for my learning how do you spot the difference between hardened steel and simple steel and actually what difference do they make in the car i mean the 2 types of steel with regard to shims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omer85 View Post
    Don't know that, but i only asked him are these the same like the original ones you are removing from the car he said yes they had different numbers on them even the ones he replaced like 240, 250, 255, etc

    Just for my learning how do you spot the difference between hardened steel and simple steel and actually what difference do they make in the car i mean the 2 types of steel with regard to shims?
    Measuring shim with vernier caliper would have been a good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    Measuring shim with vernier caliper would have been a good idea
    Yes he did that each shim which he removed from my car first he measured that with vernier calliper and then the one he replaced also was done after measuring and he did that many times the measuring

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    I have LIANA EMINENT 1.6L 2008 model for almost 3.5 years. The car's mileage is around 110k. Last weekend when I was coming from Lahore the gasket leaked and I got it ire-installed from Pindi Bhattian. The radiator was repaired and he also removed thermostat valve.

    Today I went to my mechanic at Tipu Road Rawalpindi. He did engine compression test and the reading were 150, 80, 90 & 140. He advised me to replace enginge.

    Senior members please guide what should I do? Got it repaired or replace with imported (Kabli) 1.6 engine. The approx cost of both options and recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omer85 View Post
    Got the injectures cleaned using ASNU Fuel Injector Testing & Cleaning

    The injectores were not very dirty as i am using high octane and the throw of all the injectores was also equal in the testing phase before cleaning Alhumdullilah, they cleaned it using some liquid, i forgot the name of the liquid








    Well brother what hioctane have to do with injector cleaning ? I remember a case of my friend passo running on mixture of hi octane and suddenly his car had knocking issue which were due to clogged injector if hioctane helps keeping injector clean than his car would have faced that issue BTW the guy seems unprofessional as the injector cleaning is done with alterasonic rays if you wanted to do it with injector cleaning fulid (less effective way) you should have bought some branded cleaner and poured in petrol tank

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