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    bring it on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by memad View Post
    I am able to spot one or two Liana per week here at my new location. What I am curious is to find the CNG tag in any of them but till now no luck.

    This country still do not know the wonders CH4 can do when pressurized rightly.


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    why do you need cng there?
    cng is for third world countries like ourswhere hike in fuel prices is turning the low income mass towards using it otherwise catalytic converter are enough to meet the euro standards abroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    why do you need cng there?
    cng is for third world countries like ourswhere hike in fuel prices is turning the low income mass towards using it otherwise catalytic converter are enough to meet the euro standards abroad.
    Thanks boss for the clarification.
    I was just changing the track.
    Btw the lianas I see here have digital meter cluster.


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    memad bhai ap ne apni new ride ki pics share nhi ki abi tak... anxiously waiting for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsadGhumman View Post
    memad bhai ap ne apni new ride ki pics share nhi ki abi tak... anxiously waiting for that
    Please wait like me waiting .....


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    Quote Originally Posted by memad View Post
    Please wait like me waiting .....


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    Seams like something bombastic is on its way

    Fingers crossed
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    Too many problems :s

    Liana owners & fan club - 744714b0 406b 07bd

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    Boy Badnam hua LIANA tery liya

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasooboy View Post
    Too many problems :s

    Liana owners & fan club - 744714b0 406b 07bd

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    The document don't mention any of the car details. The list is mentioning common problems of a typical corolla.


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    Quote Originally Posted by memad View Post
    Thanks boss for the clarification.
    I was just changing the track.
    Btw the lianas I see here have digital meter cluster.


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    those are similar to maruti suzuki which also had digital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hasooboy View Post
    Too many problems :s

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    Thank you for breaking my neck
    This is all a common maintenance schedule,as mentioned above by memad.
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    does the LIANA only have one obd port??? only for the landi renzo interface?? if there are any others, please tell me where they are

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    one for OBD, and one for Landirenzo.
    Sharing is caring....

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    Where is the landi ranzo one located??
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    After the service of engine bay 2 months ago, my Liana started producing backfires. but then after the tuning, everything went OK. But then again, it started backfiring since last month & it increased with every passing day with horrible mileage on CNG/Petrol, till I had to park it in the garage last week . Both the pairs of coils were gone, I got them checked from multiple places.

    Today I went to a newly opened workshop near my home. They had distributed pamphlets for advertisement so I thought I should give them a try as it was their first week & would definitely put their full efforts to gain trust of customers. So in short went there & got the following work done & have just came home half an hour ago. I had made-up my mind to get the coils replaced with chinese ones but the workshop owner recommended me to get the previous ones repaired & told me the after repairing coils would last 1.5-2 years easily. So I asked him to go ahead as per his mind.

    1-Repairing of all four coils
    2-General Tuning
    3-CNG Adjustment
    4-Throttle Body service
    5-Sensor cleaning (Throttle sensor, Acceleration sensor, Cam sensor, Air Intake sensor)
    6- One Plug replacement as it was blown & even cracked due to backfiring
    7-Some minor fixing & tightening of nuts

    The car is running fine without any backfire or anything but feels a little underpowered & lagging probably because of CNG settings disturbed but he promised me to re-adjust that tomorrow, so I will update you people accordingly.

    How much you people think this all should have costed? Just any rough idea?
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    Why didn't you go to shahid (pak autos) where you referred me? Please disclose the cost u incurred on all this. Where is this workshop located?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsadGhumman View Post
    After the service of engine bay 2 months ago, my Liana started producing backfires. but then after the tuning, everything went OK. But then again, it started backfiring since last month & it increased with every passing day with horrible mileage on CNG/Petrol, till I had to park it in the garage last week . Both the pairs of coils were gone, I got them checked from multiple places.

    Today I went to a newly opened workshop near my home. They had distributed pamphlets for advertisement so I thought I should give them a try as it was their first week & would definitely put their full efforts to gain trust of customers. So in short went there & got the following work done & have just came home half an hour ago. I had made-up my mind to get the coils replaced with chinese ones but the workshop owner recommended me to get the previous ones repaired & told me the after repairing coils would last 1.5-2 years easily. So I asked him to go ahead as per his mind.

    1-Repairing of all four coils
    2-General Tuning
    3-CNG Adjustment
    4-Throttle Body service
    5-Sensor cleaning (Throttle sensor, Acceleration sensor, Cam sensor, Air Intake sensor)
    6- One Plug replacement as it was blown & even cracked due to backfiring
    7-Some minor fixing & tightening of nuts

    The car is running fine without any backfire or anything but feels a little underpowered & lagging probably because of CNG settings disturbed but he promised me to re-adjust that tomorrow, so I will update you people accordingly.

    How much you people think this all should have costed? Just any rough idea?
    so you are happy now?
    how did he repair the coils?
    generally,inside an ignition coil are two coils of wire on top of each other, ''windings''. One winding is primary, the other is the secondary. The primary winding gets impulse to make a spark and the secondary sends it to the plugs. Either one of these windings can go bad and cause your ignition coil to fail.
    Sometimes an ignition coil that is dead,it makes no spark at all. But if a coil is on the way out, but not dead yet, it can make a weak spark that can cause the car to misfire.These can be tested with a multi meter while it's disconnected by professionals.
    The primary winding in ignition coil is the first to receive voltage from the battery.Using a multi meter, place the probes on the indicated outer poles. If the reading is within the range indicated in manual, primary winding is ok and you can go on to the secondary test. if it is even a little out of spec, the coil should be replaced.

    The secondary winding of ignition coil delivers the spark to the spark plugs. If it is bad, it will deliver a weak spark or no spark at all.
    To test the coil's secondary winding, attach the test probes to the outer 12V pole and the center pole. Determine the resistance and check to see if it's within the range indicated in the repair manual. If it is, then ok. If it's even slightly out of range, your coil should be replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    so you are happy now?
    how did he repaired the coils?
    generally,inside an ignition coil are two coils of wire on top of each other, ''windings''. One winding is primary, the other is the secondary. The primary winding gets impulse to make a spark and the secondary sends it to the plugs. Either one of these windings can go bad and cause your ignition coil to fail.
    Sometimes an ignition coil dead, as in it makes no spark at all. But if a coil is on the way out, but not dead yet, it can make a weak spark that can cause the car to misfire.These can be tested with a multi meter while it's disconnected by professionals.
    The primary winding ignition coil is the first to receive voltage from the battery.Using a multi meter, place the probes on the indicated outer poles. If the reading is within the range indicated in manual, primary winding is ok and you can go on to the secondary test. if it is even a little out of spec, the coil should be replaced.

    The secondary winding of ignition coil delivers the spark to the spark plugs. If it is bad, it will deliver a weak spark or no spark at all.
    To test the coil's secondary winding, attach the test probes to the outer 12V pole and the center pole. Determine the resistance and check to see if it's within the range indicated in the repair manual. If it is, then ok. If it's even slightly out of range, your coil should be replaced.
    Aamir Bhai are you an engineer too as you are sharing the information which we studied in electrical machines course in the university and it is the correct method.


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    Quote Originally Posted by memad View Post
    Aamir Bhai are you an engineer too as you are sharing the information which we studied in electrical machines course in the university and it is the correct method.


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    emad bhai,due to relating to the autos field though its not about cars but almost every machinery of a specific class is made on some common and basic principles,if you add some research with your personal previous knowledge and little bit of previous experience,you are already half an engineer,but believe me i am not.
    Learning and still learning,there are hundreds of parts in our own vehicles to whom we do not recognize but once you get a little know how,you are at go step for further persuasion thats what i do.
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    ...+1...
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    And Asad,to check whether the coils are ok or not,you have a desi test method as well.
    open out the plug from its socket in engine,attach it back to the plug wire,hold the plug wire with plug installed in it with some insulated pliers and keep it touched with some engine bolt,ask some one to crank the vehicle for a moment,if you see a strong blue spark in ''day light'' between plug's tip and electrode,your coils are supposed to be working good,this is just like we often do on our bikes when those do not start on kicks.lolz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    so you are happy now?
    how did he repair the coils?
    generally,inside an ignition coil are two coils of wire on top of each other, ''windings''. One winding is primary, the other is the secondary. The primary winding gets impulse to make a spark and the secondary sends it to the plugs. Either one of these windings can go bad and cause your ignition coil to fail.
    Sometimes an ignition coil that is dead,it makes no spark at all. But if a coil is on the way out, but not dead yet, it can make a weak spark that can cause the car to misfire.These can be tested with a multi meter while it's disconnected by professionals.
    The primary winding in ignition coil is the first to receive voltage from the battery.Using a multi meter, place the probes on the indicated outer poles. If the reading is within the range indicated in manual, primary winding is ok and you can go on to the secondary test. if it is even a little out of spec, the coil should be replaced.

    The secondary winding of ignition coil delivers the spark to the spark plugs. If it is bad, it will deliver a weak spark or no spark at all.
    To test the coil's secondary winding, attach the test probes to the outer 12V pole and the center pole. Determine the resistance and check to see if it's within the range indicated in the repair manual. If it is, then ok. If it's even slightly out of range, your coil should be replaced.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    emad bhai,due to relating to the autos field though its not about cars but almost every machinery of a specific class is made on some common and basic principles,if you add some research with your personal previous knowledge and little bit of previous experience,you are already half an engineer,but believe me i am not.
    Learning and still learning,there are hundreds of parts in our own vehicles to whom we do not recognize but once you get a little know how,you are at go step for further persuasion thats what i do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    And Asad,to check whether the coils are ok or not,you have a desi test method as well.
    open out the plug from its socket in engine,attach it back to the plug wire,hold the plug wire with plug installed in it with some insulated pliers and keep it touched with some engine bolt,ask some one to crank the vehicle for a moment,if you see a strong blue spark in ''day light'' between plug's tip and electrode,your coils are supposed to be working good,this is just like we often do on our bikes when those do not start on kicks.lolz.

    Aamir bhai you surprise us every other day with your vast knowledge & hidden talents . You are a true genius indeed. We LFC people are lucky to have experts like you on board.

    As far as the car is concerned, it looks fine now. I test drove it, there is no backfire at all. As per my little knowledge, I it tested coils by applying load on coils. First of all I parked the car & then drove it in 1st gear, no backfire at all. Then I parked it again & deployed 2nd gear directly & made the car move with heavy throttle & slightly pressed clutch, No patakha, no misfire, everthing was OK. Then I did the same with deploying 3rd gear directly, again no misfires. Then I tested drove uphill & again no problem, so I was satisfied. Yes the engine was less responsive which I assume is due to disturbed CNG adjustment. I feel k CNG ka ziada gala daba diya hai mechanic ne. Rest engine is smooth.
    I will check the spark next time when I open the plugs. I am also planning to purchase a tool kit for myself & then I will tune it myself. Especially, mechanics put a standard gap in plugs usually 70mm for all 1300cc cars which is not good. Liana needs something at 75mm & once I even tried 80mm too & fuel economy was just awesome with very smooth drive.
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