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    Default Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah

    Dear Experts,

    I am stating the problem below along with relevant details. Need your expert advise to resolve the issue at hand.

    Car Details:

    Suzuki Margallah with stock G13B Carby Engine Driven 260K KM. No issues with the performance. Maintained on Fully Synthetic 10-40 Oil (suits with better idle and improved mobility experience). Proper regular maintenance at every 5K KM.

    Had been using LUCAS 4 TIP plugs and was getting at least 11.5-12 KM/L until May 2014 (sometimes even better).

    Issue:

    Car's milage has dropped to 9.5-10.5 KM/L for no apparent reason since last 4 months.

    Fixes applied:

    Plugs have been cleaned (seems irrelevant since there is no starting or performance issue any way).
    A loose hose pipe (for vaccum) has been replaced on carburator, was making shan-shan noise.
    A loose fuel pipe has been replaced.
    Fuel system cleaner from STP has been poured.
    Carburator cleaner from STP has been poured several times (does improve idle and smoothes the drive). Used once a month any way.
    Gear Oil has been changed with Caltex Thuban SAE 90.
    Car Alignment has been re done (believe me it does improve the milage of the car - as per my previous experience).

    A sympton of some issue that i had been observing is a strong petrol smell (for about 20-30 sec) once there is less fuel in the tank and i turn off the engine. Mechanic says that he couldn't find any blockage in the exhaust of fuel tank.

    Result:

    Haven't seen any improvement in milage it is still between 9.5-10.5 KM/L.

    Way Ahead:

    Currently using LUCAS 4 TIP plugs which are in good nick, no issues with starting or idle or acceleration. They are being used for at least 30-40K KMs. Previous Bosch 4 TIP plugs worked 100K KMs without any issue.

    Does changing these plugs with NGK platinum (single tip) be of any use and will improve the milage?

    Using OEM plug wires came with the car in 1998, should i change these to any good 8 MM or 10 MM wires?

    Orignal cylincer came with car Made by Sanki Japan is making small noises like chan chan, should i change it now (since mechanic suggested no need since no apparent issue). I believe if exhaust system is in precise condition it does improve the milage as well.

    I will really appreciate your feed back.

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by alimoeed17 View Post
    aoa...i am also facing mileage problem for my margalla 96.....abhi me ne margalla ka complete engine overhaul karaia he lekin phir bhi average 9-10km per liter he....muje yahan koi margalla ka expert mechanic lahore ya rwp me bata den thanks
    Try shifting to a fully synthetic oil, your milage will increase.

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    which one you suggest??

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    Quote Originally Posted by alimoeed17 View Post
    which one you suggest??
    Bro, get the vehicle carburettor cleaned, service and adjusted from some spealist in this field to solve your problem of fuel consumption.
    Don't leave a highway for a byway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alimoeed17 View Post
    which one you suggest??
    micking 10w-40 max super fully synthetic.

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    Guys again reduced milage. couldn't work out the reason. plugs are red when inspected.

    no leakage apparent.

    what to do?

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    Red? Used any additives?

    Reduced milage can be due to a lot of things, start from the ignition system


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    4 plugs cost is 1K Rs.
    Any advantage over stock plug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    Any advantage over stock plug?
    lesser chance of miss firing. nothing additional. however this might be subjective since i had been running my car on a very linear fuel air map and it has been optimized in every manner possible.

    on a worn ride new 4 tip bosch super 4 might be a revelation.

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    guys i am stuck with an issue where my car is making too much gas pressure in the petrol tank and fuel cant go in almost at all.

    Today due to low milage issue i asked my mechanic to arrange carburator kit. Wen he started opening the carburator there was a strange scenario, fuel line was still feeding fuel even tough the car was completely turned off. upon investigation it was revealed that it was due to the air pressure created in the fuel line which was causing fuel to circulate the lines continuesly.

    to cut long story short we were only able to stop the fuel from circulating by opening the filler cap and releasing the gas pressure.

    Later all air pipes to and from the fuel tank were verified for any blockage and were found to be ok.

    now i am running the car with a loose filler cap setting and experiencing a bit better milage mainly because wen the car is parked fuel is expectedly not conitnuesly circulating the lines.

    what should be the permanent fix for this. i am confused at the moment.

    experts please help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    guys i am stuck with an issue where my car is making too much gas pressure in the petrol tank and fuel cant go in almost at all.

    Today due to low milage issue i asked my mechanic to arrange carburator kit. Wen he started opening the carburator there was a strange scenario, fuel line was still feeding fuel even tough the car was completely turned off. upon investigation it was revealed that it was due to the air pressure created in the fuel line which was causing fuel to circulate the lines continuesly.

    to cut long story short we were only able to stop the fuel from circulating by opening the filler cap and releasing the gas pressure.

    Later all air pipes to and from the fuel tank were verified for any blockage and were found to be ok.

    now i am running the car with a loose filler cap setting and experiencing a bit better milage mainly because wen the car is parked fuel is expectedly not conitnuesly circulating the lines.

    what should be the permanent fix for this. i am confused at the moment.

    experts please help.
    @margallar

    experts please comment.

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    Results of mothers polish are below for your reference.

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    posted again below

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    your valuable comments are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking View Post
    Guys i got the carburator kit changed with orignal japanese one.there was no apparent issue and the milage i was getting was around 11 KM/Litre. Since the car has been driven 280K MASHA ALLAH, so i thought it was time for a carburator kit change anyway.So got a japanese replacement. pics are shown below for your reference.

    Experiencing further improvement in milage however not been able to quantify it exactly yet. will share the results accordingly soon.
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    Guys i got the carburator kit changed with orignal japanese one.there was no apparent issue and the milage i was getting was around 11 KM/Litre. Since the car has been driven 280K MASHA ALLAH, so i thought it was time for a carburator kit change anyway.So got a japanese replacement. pics are shown below for your reference.

    Experiencing further improvement in milage however not been able to quantify it exactly yet. will share the results accordingly soon.

    Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632942Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632943Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632944Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632945Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632946Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632947Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632948Need Advise of Experts on Mileage Issue with Suzuki Margallah -1632949

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
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    posted again.

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    do you remember the jet numbers?

    sometimes the parts in these kits are slightly different, you dont notice it but it affects the car
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    I need a good genuine/original margalla plus 97-98 with cng in karachi. Sellers please contact me. no open letter cars. the car should be on the name of the person I am going to deal with

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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    do you remember the jet numbers?

    sometimes the parts in these kits are slightly different, you dont notice it but it affects the car
    brother dont remember the number however i remember verifying and matching the jet numbers. they were exactly same with same number .

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