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    Default Engine Oil ZIC HiFlo 20W-50 or Havoline Formula 2

    Asalam o Alaikum,
    I have bought Suzuki Mehran 2005 (Registered Sep 2005). Immediately after purchase, I change its Engine oil (ZIC HIFLO 20W-50) the millage of car at that time is 38,000KM.
    Now i have to change engine oil as car travels nearly 3000 Km.

    I hear from somebody that prefer the engine oil of that company whose Petrol stations are available.
    Please tell me that i continue ZIC HIFLO 20W-50 or i shift to Havoline® Formula 20W-50.

    Also tell me the recommended Interval of Change engine oil.

    Suzuki Mehran-2005/Brand/Interval of change
    Suzuki Mehran-2005/ZIC HIFLO 20W-50_______________________
    Suzuki Mehran-2005/Havoline® Formula 20W-50_______________________

    Also tell me that for old engines (As i have 2005) the engine oil 20w/50 is better than 10w/30.

    Senior members, Please give some comments.

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    Usman

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassaaniqbal92 View Post
    u sent me a pm too. cannot reply since ur pm is disabled. to answer ur question, use caltex havoline formula 10w30 api sm for ur vehicle.
    Thnku bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automotorsport_Lover View Post
    There are 3 types of engine oils...

    Mineral - (Normal)
    Semi Synthetic - (Better)
    Synthetic - (Best)

    Mineral oils should be replaced at sharp 3000Kms, Semi synthetic can last 5000Kms, Fully Synthetic can last up to 8,000kms (Or even more in some expensive brands)

    Synthetics are modern oils, they are thin oils, they retain their viscosity very well but they are all just available in v.thin grade such as 0w-30, 0w-40, 5w-40 at max 10w-40

    Semi synthetics are usually available in 5w-40 to 10w-40 grade

    Any oil above 10w-40 is a mineral oil. 20w-40 & 20w-50 are examples of mineral oils, and these are v.thick oils.

    Once you have started using a thick engine oil of grade 20w-40 or 20w-50 you should not try to shift to a synthetic oil and also avoid using semi synthetic oil, specially in older cars. You should continue using 20w-40/50 with a drain interval of 3000Kms sharp.

    Going back to lower viscosities and thinner oils can make ur engine seals and gaskits leak. You car can start reducing engine oil as the engine components, seals and washers have now adjusted to a v.thick oil. Shifting back to a thin oil can now casue leaking.

    For brand new cars use fully synthetic oil from day one, and change at 5000kms to keep engine happy
    For low mielage used cars you can use semi-synthetic in 10w-40
    For used cars with higher mileage and unknown oil history, use 20w-40 or 20w-50 of a good brand.

    @miansaab I persoanlly dislike all local oils... use a mineral oil by Liqui Moly, Meguin or look for Micking if you want a cost effective oil. You should use 15w-40 or 20w-40/50 in your Mehran.

    @zeus65 Personally i thick you should drain 5w-30, as its summers, you car is old and you belong to Sindh were weather is hot. You should not use any oil thinner than 10w-40, may it be semi synthetic or mineral.

    Or continue using 20w-50 (shift to a good imported oil brand)

    5w-30 is not suitable for this weather, your car and its range is very low 5w-30 is a winter oil (Does not support a wide range of variation in temperature)


    Sir, I used shell ax5(15w40) in my suzuki gs150 in my break in period. odo metre is now 1100 kms(break in period done). My bike still heats alot and vibrates at 5-6 rpm with a loud engine sound. First oil changed at 300 kms and 2nd oil at 750 kms(both oil shell ax5)

    I want to move to zic M7 which is 10w40. So as u said moving from thicker grade to thinner grade is not good for engine. Need your advise should I change the oil with zic m7 10w40 or stick with shell ax5 15w40? Engine new ha 1100 kms driven only.

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    Recomend me a oil for 2014 mehran 30000 milage and euro 2... Plzz.. Previously usinh some kind of zic

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    Quote Originally Posted by aston999 View Post
    Recomend me a oil for 2014 mehran 30000 milage and euro 2... Plzz.. Previously usinh some kind of zic

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    SGO 10W40 SG


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    Have got a little rust on some parts what is the solution..

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    Quote Originally Posted by aston999 View Post
    Recomend me a oil for 2014 mehran 30000 milage and euro 2... Plzz.. Previously usinh some kind of zic

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajaahmed96 View Post
    SGO 10W40 SG


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    use caltex 10w40 api sj. newly released

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassaaniqbal92 View Post
    use caltex 10w40 api sj. newly released
    I also suggested that to some users but most of them were unable to source it due to their local oil dealer interested in selling only Havoline motor oil 20W50

    Caltex 10W40 API SJ or SGO 10W40 API SG both are good oils drain them at 4-5k
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    Quote Originally Posted by rajaahmed96 View Post
    I also suggested that to some users but most of them were unable to source it due to their local oil dealer interested in selling only Havoline motor oil 20W50

    Caltex 10W40 API SJ or SGO 10W40 API SG both are good oils drain them at 4-5k
    What about shell

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    Quote Originally Posted by vkiiali View Post
    Sir, I used shell ax5(15w40) in my suzuki gs150 in my break in period. odo metre is now 1100 kms(break in period done). My bike still heats alot and vibrates at 5-6 rpm with a loud engine sound. First oil changed at 300 kms and 2nd oil at 750 kms(both oil shell ax5)

    I want to move to zic M7 which is 10w40. So as u said moving from thicker grade to thinner grade is not good for engine. Need your advise should I change the oil with zic m7 10w40 or stick with shell ax5 15w40? Engine new ha 1100 kms driven only.
    Use Liqui Moly 20w-50 Motorcycle engine oil ideally.

    I have not got much clue about GS150, it has a lot of complaints of poor built quality. I dont think the excessive vibration is due to the oil. Get your bike inspected from mechanics. Drive other people's GS150 for comparison.

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    In Pakistan weather condition,10w-40 SJ or SM grade is most suitable oil for Mehran driven up to 80000 km with good engine condition,

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajaahmed96 View Post
    I also suggested that to some users but most of them were unable to source it due to their local oil dealer interested in selling only Havoline motor oil 20W50

    Caltex 10W40 API SJ or SGO 10W40 API SG both are good oils drain them at 4-5k
    since caltex has discontinued its operations in pakistan, the 10w40 variant will be scarce. however, there are many havoline outlets which have these in stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsimM View Post
    In Pakistan weather condition,10w-40 SJ or SM grade is most suitable oil for Mehran driven up to 80000 km with good engine condition,
    not api sm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aston999 View Post
    What about shell

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    the shell 10w40 is api sn and should not be used in a mehran

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    Quote Originally Posted by hassaaniqbal92 View Post
    since caltex has discontinued its operations in pakistan, the 10w40 variant will be scarce. however, there are many havoline outlets which have these in stock
    Caltex has discontinued its petrol in Pakistan but lube are available.


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    API SM is premium grade oil as compared to SG or SJ grades and is backward compatible with previous grade oils. SGO also comes in SG and SM grade. Also Suzuki and ZIC recommended me to use SN grade (ZIC X7 (10W-40) API SN) and SGO ultimate for Mehran. Point is, we cannot use lower grade if manufacturer has recommended upper grade oil,. A minimum SG grade is required for Mehran.

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    API SM is premium grade oil as compared to SG or SJ grades and is backward compatible with previous grade oils. SGO also comes in SG and SM grade. Also Suzuki and ZIC recommended me to use SN grade (ZIC X7 (10W-40) API SN) and SGO ultimate for Mehran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsimM View Post
    API SM is premium grade oil as compared to SG or SJ grades and is backward compatible with previous grade oils. SGO also comes in SG and SM grade. Also Suzuki and ZIC recommended me to use SN grade (ZIC X7 (10W-40) API SN) and SGO ultimate for Mehran. Point is, we cannot use lower grade if manufacturer has recommended upper grade oil,. A minimum SG grade is required for Mehran.
    when all the new oils are backward compatible, then why are companies still selling api sg oils???? this is becoz old tech engines need old spec oil. and mehran, even brand new, uses flat tappet. and flat tappet engines need high zddp. so api sg or max api sj should be used since these have ample zddp for oldschool engines. api sL onwards are backward compatible for modern engines. I have a honda civic 2005. its book says api sj but I am using api sn. but in my mehran I am not exceeding api sj because I dont want a worn out cam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsimM View Post
    API SM is premium grade oil as compared to SG or SJ grades and is backward compatible with previous grade oils. SGO also comes in SG and SM grade. Also Suzuki and ZIC recommended me to use SN grade (ZIC X7 (10W-40) API SN) and SGO ultimate for Mehran.
    dont go for the word from the oil companies. trust ur owner's manual book only.

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