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    I would like to apologize in advance if this has been discussed before. I see a lot of New Corolla XLI/GLI owners complaining of low torque/low pickup. I was going through the South African Toyota website and this is what they have to offer in their 1.3L variant.

    Toyota Vehicle Specifications

    Engine type 1NR-FE
    Displacement (cm3) 1329
    Cylinder configuration 4 in-line
    Max. power (kW @ r/min) 74 @ 6000
    Max. torque (Nm @ r/min) 132 @ 3800
    Valve mechanism 16-valve DOHC with Dual VVT-i
    Valves per cylinder 4
    Bore x stroke (mm) 72.5 x 80.5
    Compression ratio 11.5 : 1
    Fuel supply Electronic fuel injection (EFI)
    Unleaded fuel requirement Only
    Emission control Catalytic converter
    Emission control phase Euro 4
    Transmission configuration 6-speed manual
    Gear ratios: 1st 3.538
    Gear ratios: 2nd 1.913
    Gear ratios: 3rd 1.310
    Gear ratios: 4th 0.971
    Gear ratios: 5th 0.818
    Gear ratios: 6th 0.700
    Gear ratios: Reverse 3.333
    Clutch diameter (mm) 200
    Driven wheels Front
    Service intervals (km) 15000
    ToyotaCare Service Plan 5 years/90 000km
    Warranty 3 years/100 000km
    Performance


    Performance (Data by Toyota Motor Corporation)
    Top speed (km/h) 180
    Fuel consumption: Combination (l/100km) 5.9
    Performance (Data by CAR Magazine, SA)



    Also, the pickup and mileage of this corolla is phenomenal (for a 1.3L) after reading a couple of reviews. I wonder why Toyota Indus haven't offered this engine in their XLI/GLI variants considering the staggering price tag they have on these vehicles.


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    in south africa they give the more features
    but 1.3 corolla starting price is (R177700) if convert in RS the price 2085685.94rs
    is more than Indus Altis
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    Indus should atleast provide Airbags. Is it too much to ask? Nissan is offering airbags in all of their Sunny variants.

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    Sir in India Altis was available on road for 1M Rs in November and that was a much better Altis, they also have a CNG and 1.4L D4D which is more frugal then a CNG yet more powerful then a 2nz fe, instead of the aging 2c diesel here.

    The point is that Pakistani consumers will keep on buying the car and they will keep on producing the car.

    I doubt that people would still buy a Corolla even if Indus will equip it with a Suzuki F6A 660 cc engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 959 View Post
    Sir in India Altis was available on road for 1M Rs in November and that was a much better Altis, they also have a CNG and 1.4L D4D which is more frugal then a CNG yet more powerful then a 2nz fe, instead of the aging 2c diesel here.

    The point is that Pakistani consumers will keep on buying the car and they will keep on producing the car.

    I doubt that people would still buy a Corolla even if Indus will equip it with a Suzuki F6A 660 cc engine.

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    The current price of Altis in India (top of the line variant) is INR 14,03,050 (source: Toyota - Pricelist)

    Convert it into PKR using the exchange rate (source: Open Market Currency Rates in Pakistan) the equivalent price comes to PKR 26,23,703

    So in Pakistan the top of the line Altis costs under PKR 1.9m while in India the same Altis costs PKR 2.6m+ with same features. You decide which one you want

    Pakistani Corolla is the best value for money Corolla in the whole world and you want find a better specd corolla at the same price

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    in usa toyota corolla xrs 2.4 litre engine price is 20k dollars about 17lakhs
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    @mani1

    The current price of Altis in India (top of the line variant) is INR 14,03,050 (source: Toyota - Pricelist)

    Convert it into PKR using the exchange rate (source: Open Market Currency Rates in Pakistan) the equivalent price comes to PKR 26,23,703

    So in Pakistan the top of the line Altis costs under PKR 1.9m while in India the same Altis costs PKR 2.6m+ with same features. You decide which one you want

    Pakistani Corolla is the best value for money Corolla in the whole world and you want find a better specd corolla at the same price
    Sir first and most important thing is that you do not have to convert the Rs to Indian Rs, you do not earn or live there.

    Indian 1 rs means 1 rs to them and Pakistani 1 rs means 1 rs to us, at best you can exchange the rate with US $.

    Secondly you are intentionally or unintenionally misleading people.

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    HID Headlamps with Retractable Washers

    Headlamp Leveling System

    Front Fog Lamps

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    Immobilizer + Alarm

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    I think it has a lot more features then Indus TOP corolla.

    Yet I have not compared the 2.0D SR with Indian D4D, because the local car is hopeless.

    Comparision with US Corolla is simply pointless, if you will drive one you will never spend your money on local one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 959 View Post
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    Sir first and most important thing is that you do not have to convert the Rs to Indian Rs, you do not earn or live there.

    Indian 1 rs means 1 rs to them and Pakistani 1 rs means 1 rs to us, at best you can exchange the rate with US $.
    I am amazed and don't even know what to say. Ever heard about the PPP (purchasing power parity)? Do you even know how exchange rates work?

    According to your assertions the cheapest corolla is in Kuwait where it for less than 10,000 Kuwaiti Dinars. Since 1 Kuwaiti Dinar is 1 Rs for them, Pakistani Corolla is over priced at 1.9m and it should be at Rs. 10,000? Bravo!

    The discussion ends here and you win

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    I am amazed and don't even know what to say. Ever heard about the PPP (purchasing power parity)? Do you even know how exchange rates work?

    According to your assertions the cheapest corolla is in Kuwait where it for less than 10,000 Kuwaiti Dinars. Since 1 Kuwaiti Dinar is 1 Rs for them, Pakistani Corolla is over priced at 1.9m and it should be at Rs. 10,000? Bravo!

    The discussion ends here and you win South African 1.3L Corolla - smiley smile
    Sir

    First you have fluke about Indian Corolla that it is same as Pakistan one.

    Now you are giving me lessons on how exchange rates work or what is PPP.

    I think we should discuss some basic high school economic lessons first before commenting about exchange rates and my knowledge about them.

    Do we live in Kuwait, India or US/Canada?

    Do we earn there?

    In US/Canada, minimum wage rate is 14K $, nearly equals a Civic/Corolla, can you quote the Pakistani one.

    Do kuwaiti people earn 10,000 Dinar like we can earn 10-25K Rs in a month?

    How much times it takes for an average Kuwaiti or US citizen to buy a Corolla compare to Pakistani counterpart and is that Corolla equals in equipment, fit/finish build and quality?

    Has your country allowed free trade and import to let the PPP work?

    Do you know the tax/custom duties on import of goods which falls under protected industries like textile and Auto for so many years.

    What about the monopoly or oligopoly?

    Is labor cheaper in US/Kuwait or Pakistan?

    So 1 kuwaiti Dinar is 1 rs to them because they earn there, live there and spend there, they do not come to Pakistan and exchange their currency to PKR for buying a car and then take it back to Kuwait.

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    Please do not introduce irrelevant economic concepts into the discussion to hide your embarrassment. I suggest you read my reply again and think clearly. I am in no mood to teach you basic economics.

    In case you really need some help understanding what I am talking about, heres an example for you. A Denon AVR-1911 A/V receiver costs around $500 in the US. Here in Pakistan it is available for around 60k. $500X85.70=PKR42,850. Add to this cost a shipping cost of 5k and that leaves a profit margin of around 12k for the importer. This is a basic example of how pricing works around the world. Not the other way around as per your assertions which some how incoherently relates wages earned to prices and what not.

    In a free economy, provided sufficient demand exists, supply in Pakistan for the same A/V receiver would increase gradually to point where price in both US and Pakistan is the same. This is provided all other things remain constant.

    Now go and think again what you just said. Also in future please make a point rather than raising incoherent and irrelevant questions

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    For people who don't know economics

    Person A: Look Look, Corolla is for INR 1,400,000 in India and PKR 1,900,000. It is injustice! We are being fleeced! Death to Toyota Indus Pakistan

    Person B: Err...so?

    Person A: We should also get Corolla in Pakistan for 1,400,000!

    Person B: Do you realize that the price of 1,400,000 is in Indian Rupees and not Pakistani Rupees?

    Person A: So what?

    Person B: So does this means that US corolla which is being sold for USD 15,000 in US should be available in Pakistan for PKR 15,000?

    Person A: Wages/1rs=1Dollar/Work timings/Free trade/blah blah

    Person B: Please understand that there is a concept known as exhange rate. If we were to import the Indian Corolla it would cost us 1,400,000 X 1.87 which is the exchange rate. For simplicity lets assume that no duties exists. Similarly if we want to import US corolla it would cost us USD 15,000 X 85.70.
    Now do you get it? Prices are to be multiplied by exhange rates!

    Person A: No no, Wages/1rs=1Dollar/Work timings/Free trade/blah blah

    Person B: Ah....I dont wanna waste my time.....you win

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    Sir you should enhance your reading and try to learn something from others.

    Instead of adopting the bad habits of younger generation to never admit their fault and share their bright ideas on brand loyalty and their personal likeness.

    Had you read the post carefully you would have realized that you cannot import a Corolla from US for 15,000 $ X 86, it would cost nearly twice the amount after all duties and taxes paid.

    You are not living in a free trade economy.

    You cannot assusme that there exsists no duties.

    Ideally the Corolla should not be more expensive then 15000 X 85 that equals 1,275,000, but that cannot happen in reality.

    Corollas or other cars produced in the world are much better then equipment and costs less if you will consider the purchasing power of their respective citizens.

    If you are happy with that crappy Corollas that cost near to 16K $ without a power window you can happily buy them but please do not misguide people about how cars are made and how car pricing is being done.

    Fans like you encourage local manufacturers to make excessive profits and create a monopoly.

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    @959

    Well spot on. Your lecture was helpful to me too. Impressive work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airomerix View Post
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    Well spot on. Your lecture was helpful to me too. Impressive work.
    let me guess.. u r civic fanboy (reborn one) ...

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