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    Default 2011 Corolla 1.6L Altis AT / GLI AT

    Hi Fellows:

    After reviewing the specifications of recently launched Corolla 1.6L model, I'm initiating this thread for discussing specifically the "Automatic" transmission versions. The two variants discussed here are:

    - 1.6L GLI Automatic
    - 1.6L Altis Automatic


    Kindly post your comments / feedback regarding the two variants. Do Not discuss CIVIC or any other Corolla variant.

    Thanks !
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    Indus Motor Company Limited | Home

    2011 Corolla 16L Altis AT  GLI AT -243988

    New Prices, effective July-01-2011:

    Gli A/T------- 16,54,000
    Altis A/T----- 17,74,000



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    1)Yeah Toyota Corolla price went up by around 67,000 ( from 1462 to 1529) out of which 20k was govt taxes. that makes it 47,000 With a facelift.

    2) Civic Vti manual costed 1665000 which is now 1735000 a price change of Rs. 75000 what changes ? not even a single bulb.

    3) Corolla was always a C segment Sedan.
    1) Increasing Price just because of a facelift is never a justification
    since Price of the car in international market remains the same from one Generation the next some cosmetic changes like lights do not even begin to justify the price increase

    2) Price is increasing of all cars only because of devalued Rs
    that said Gli is still relatively Expensive compare to base Civic
    think about all the features 1.6L Altis has with only 1.3 Lakh Rs higher price

    If ur already spending so much on a Corolla why not just buy Altis?

    3) imo Corolla has not been a C Segment Car in Pakistan particularly because of gimmicks like 1.3L Engines and "XLI"
    keeping in mind XLI was the dominant variant of 2002-2007 model

    the point im making is iDSI City was head to head with GLI/XLI
    but currently the New City is not even comparable to 1.6L GLI which is how its supposed to be

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    one thing that will really help is to know the Fuel average of the 1.6L Dual VVTi

    im willing to bet it will NOT be lower than 1.3L Gli

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    but it will surely lower than civic ...
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    it will not be lower than 1.3L Gli so how can it be lower than Civic 0.0

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    i really like altis MT.
    i m kind enough to forgive u but not fool enough to trust u

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    so my uncle booked a altis auto today and would receive it start of next month
    but the weird thing they said is, each dealership will book one car per month
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    1) Increasing Price just because of a facelift is never a justification
    since Price of the car in international market remains the same from one Generation the next some cosmetic changes like lights do not even begin to justify the price increase

    2) Price is increasing of all cars only because of devalued Rs
    that said Gli is still relatively Expensive compare to base Civic
    think about all the features 1.6L Altis has with only 1.3 Lakh Rs higher price

    If ur already spending so much on a Corolla why not just buy Altis?

    3) imo Corolla has not been a C Segment Car in Pakistan particularly because of gimmicks like 1.3L Engines and "XLI"
    keeping in mind XLI was the dominant variant of 2002-2007 model

    the point im making is iDSI City was head to head with GLI/XLI
    but currently the New City is not even comparable to 1.6L GLI which is how its supposed to be
    1) Disagreed. Considering that manufacturer needs to factor in R&D cost, new parts and others. Thats why Mehran is still the same, zero cost and just making money!

    2) Agreed but also raw material cost is increasing.

    3) Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
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    it will not be lower than 1.3L Gli so how can it be lower than Civic 0.0
    The 1.6is know to give 12percent better economy than 1.8vvti and 1.8vvti was already having 2km/l better average than civic prosmatic as confirmed by mani and rizwan bhai.
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    You have mixed things up; GLI AUTO doesnt have Alloys, Cruise Control, Air Bag, Keyless, ECO Zone or Retractable Mirrors. Its the same old GLI with 1.6L and Auto Gearbox. Its got no comparison with Civic!
    Quote Originally Posted by mubeenshahid View Post
    +1.now gli auto is comparable to civic.even take a base altis and compare with civic vti and see the features standard on altis .alloys cruise control airbag keyless eco zone leather seats 6speedmt retractable mirrors and many other just dont wanna start that.even old vvti 1.8 gives around 2km/l better average compared to prosmatic as confirmed by mani and rizwan bhai
    If Indus launches GLI-PLUS (or something) with 15.89 price tag featuring this new 1.6L Dual VVTI engine; It would be best product in the market!


    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    Its not high, Considering Toyota is charging 90k for the gear box, less 90,000 from 16,79,000 you come to 15,89,000 which is 60k more then the Gli 1.3 manuals price. they are charging 60k for a upgraded engine so its reasonable i gues.
    • In my opinion; Civic by design doesnt need Side Skirts
    • Civic VTi shares everything with its bigger sister Civic Oriel. Its just the "key" is missing from Civic VTi; and one can get the Oriel like Key (transmittor) and get it programmed under 7k
    • In my opinon; Civic interior is designed differently and it doesnt need wooden panels. There are "silver look panels" and "carbon fiber look panels" options available in countries like Australia and that too are not door panels
    • The price difference between VTi M/T and Altis M/T is just (17.25 - 17.19) 6k and difference between VTi P/T and Altis A/T is (18.50 - 18.09) 41k. The price difference between Oriel M/T and Altis SR M/T is (19.10 - 18.09) 1.01lacs and Oriel P/T and Altis SR A/T is (19.90 - 18.99) 91k. Which 1700k you are talking about?. To me (as individual and as personal ride) VTi M/T is much better option that Altis M/T; for just 6k extra you are getting "exclusive" shape, immobilizer and 200cc more displacement. You are loosing primarily just driver side air-bag, retractable mirrors (10k), keyless entry (7k) and multi-info METER (fuel consumption, which door is opened etc). Air bag and multi-info METER are really nice features that Altis M/T has!
    Quote Originally Posted by guganali007 View Post
    wht about no alloy rims, no airbag , no fog lamps, no side skirts , no key less entry , no wooden interior...A car which cost almost 1700k but still dont have these things..too me price of gli 1.6 is high..altis mt is better to buy...
    None of these features even GLI-AT has!
    Quote Originally Posted by shoaibss View Post
    civic vti auto has no alloy rims, no airbags,no fog lamps, no keyless entry.no wooden interior, and price is 2 lac more than gli auto
    Civic VTi price increased from 16.65 to 16.85 (when I booked mine) and this 30k price increase was due to 1.5% FED increase on March 15th. The increase from 16.85 to 17.25 (not 17.35) is really annoying; but then they say our currency is devaluing
    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    1)Yeah Toyota Corolla price went up by around 67,000 ( from 1462 to 1529) out of which 20k was govt taxes. that makes it 47,000 With a facelift.

    2) Civic Vti manual costed 1665000 which is now 1735000 a price change of Rs. 75000 what changes ? not even a single bulb.
    All said; I think my immediate opinion still stands relevant
    Quote Originally Posted by khurram_aziz View Post
    • To me Altis SR (both M/T and A/T) are flop; their prices are too high and one should get Civic Oriel instead; Civic Oriel has even higher price; but you will get "exclusive" shape, dual air bags, in-dash CD Changer and better interior. You will only miss ECO METER. Its not that big deal; if it is for you; you can always get ScanGuage like tools (10k - 20k)
    • Altis A/T is also flop; no fun without tiptronic; get M/T instead for even better fuel consumption
    • GLI A/T apparently looks better; but Altis M/T has loads of feature for slightly higher price and you will only loose A/T geatbox but get driver side air bag and loads of other features (which to me is much better deal)
    I am not a Civic fanboy or Altis fanboy. I got Civic for myself plainly for one and only one reason. My dad is Toyota fanboy and he might never buy Civic and I wanted a change in our car porch . We booked Altis M/T yesterday ourselves. Just wanted to set the facts straight. This thread is about Altis and I think we should keep focused and avoid dragging Civic in every second post

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK77 View Post
    2011 Corolla 1.6L Altis AT / GLI AT - 243571

    What is a 'Fuel-Cut system'?

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    God forbid, in case of any accident; the fuel stops coming to engine to avoid fire or fuel leak
    Quote Originally Posted by aref View Post
    What is a 'Fuel-Cut system'?

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    what are the da differences between GLI A/T AND Altis A/T,PLZ QUICKLY REPLY AND WRITE theit cost
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    Duh, Status. Get a life.

    1) The Gli has been in production ever since Corolla is manufactured in Pakistan.

    2) City was brought in to omit Civic Lxi/Sxi and compete with Margalla Baleno Segment.

    3) Dash board quality, teil leine sab, go and check ground realities. Corolla is i guess the only car with a softer uper dash board. All other cars have cheap hard plastic on them. Civics dash board may look like a planes cockpit. but the built quality is pathetic now. My 96 Civic had better interior quality then what my 07 Vti does.

    4) Hondas build quality, come to ground realities again, Tell me one Honda owner who didnt face locks, steering key, driver window issues,

    Differnce of Class btwn Gli and Vti.

    Yes there might be., But the Gli at 1.6 is head to head comparable to the Vti auto tranny. yes the 200cc Difference prevails.

    Aur City being rollas competitor, Never was never will. Even if a black bumperd xli is introduced cheaper then City.

    Honda proved that it self,. On citys launch it was prices higher then Xli, then they backed off tameez ke sath.

    Suspention wise,

    id say Civic has better traction and the driver has better control on the car.

    Shape

    Apni apni choice hai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    1) Increasing Price just because of a facelift is never a justification
    since Price of the car in international market remains the same from one Generation the next some cosmetic changes like lights do not even begin to justify the price increase

    2) Price is increasing of all cars only because of devalued Rs
    that said Gli is still relatively Expensive compare to base Civic
    think about all the features 1.6L Altis has with only 1.3 Lakh Rs higher price

    If ur already spending so much on a Corolla why not just buy Altis?

    3) imo Corolla has not been a C Segment Car in Pakistan particularly because of gimmicks like 1.3L Engines and "XLI"
    keeping in mind XLI was the dominant variant of 2002-2007 model

    the point im making is iDSI City was head to head with GLI/XLI
    but currently the New City is not even comparable to 1.6L GLI which is how its supposed to be
    1) Atleast there was a face lift. Why did Honda increase price by 70k ? so its wise versa both the brands increased prices. If rupee devalued for Honda it devalued for Suzuki and Toyota as well. Look it as a whole, dont just shoot that Toyota is particularly looting us.

    2) O bhae, All im saying is to me Gli At (1600cc) is comparable enough car to Vti At. Theres a considerable price differnce btwn Gli At and Civic Vti At. Thats it its just my opinion. You dont need to agree to it. Over here im not even taking about the Altis.

    3) What world do u live in? XLi like cars arent avalible in Pakistan only, yes now they are few but low end trims of all cars are avalible in the entire world. ITs just that in Pakistan only Toyota is doing so.

    Honda and Suzuki offer only loaded cars to save production costs. As loaded cars sell more.

    If a standard model Honda City was avalible it wud be a 100k cheaper. Then obviusly it would stand out.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    • In my opinion; Civic by design doesnt need Side Skirts
    • Civic VTi shares everything with its bigger sister Civic Oriel. Its just the "key" is missing from Civic VTi; and one can get the Oriel like Key (transmittor) and get it programmed under 7k
    • In my opinon; Civic interior is designed differently and it doesnt need wooden panels. There are "silver look panels" and "carbon fiber look panels" options available in countries like Australia and that too are not door panels
    • The price difference between VTi M/T and Altis M/T is just (17.25 - 17.19) 6k and difference between VTi P/T and Altis A/T is (18.50 - 18.09) 41k. The price difference between Oriel M/T and Altis SR M/T is (19.10 - 18.09) 1.01lacs and Oriel P/T and Altis SR A/T is (19.90 - 18.99) 91k. Which 1700k you are talking about?. To me (as individual and as personal ride) VTi M/T is much better option that Altis M/T; for just 6k extra you are getting "exclusive" shape, immobilizer and 200cc more displacement. You are loosing primarily just driver side air-bag, retractable mirrors (10k), keyless entry (7k) and multi-info METER (fuel consumption, which door is opened etc). Air bag and multi-info METER are really nice features that Altis M/T has!
  31. All im saying is Gli (at) is wiser choice when compared to Vti At Gli at is priced 1679 while Vti AT is 1850

    Vti at and Gli At are more or less having similar features. Both are sisters to the higer end trims.

    Both lack alloys, and some fancy stuff. Both can have the keyless entry as they both share the ECU of the higher end models.

    Yes Civic does lead in the imobilizer and 200cc and exclusive shape. I wont argue to that as that is the fact infact. But the price difference btwn Gli At and Vti at is considerable for the extra stuff ur getting in Vti At. Over here the Civic has better features for rs.171000 more then Gli At.

    That is Rs 171,000.

    Then comes Altis At

    Over here Altis AT has some better features over the Vti At. Corolla being priced at 1809000 and Civic AT at 1850. Corolla is better here but still lacks imobilizer and the 200cc but u get alloys, multi info and a airbag, i guess its more or less equilant to Civic being 200cc bigger and having a immobilizer?.

    Oriel and SR variant are then comparable. where Altis SR AT is 1899000 and Civiic Oriel PT is 1990000
Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.
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    All said; I think my immediate opinion still stands relevant
    you made a great disicion at that time.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mubeenshahid View Post
    I too it has 6speed power and great fuel economy
    have u used it? how u can talk about great fuel economy without even using it
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    Quote Originally Posted by dms664 View Post
    have u used it? how u can talk about great fuel economy without even using it
    Read the reviews of thailand corolla 1.6on internet
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    Great Thread Going On..!!
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    1.6 Gli for 1.8million, better get a 1.8 Civic :/
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    1) Atleast there was a face lift. Why did Honda increase price by 70k ? so its wise versa both the brands increased prices. If rupee devalued for Honda it devalued for Suzuki and Toyota as well. Look it as a whole, dont just shoot that Toyota is particularly looting us.

    2) O bhae, All im saying is to me Gli At (1600cc) is comparable enough car to Vti At. Theres a considerable price differnce btwn Gli At and Civic Vti At. Thats it its just my opinion. You dont need to agree to it. Over here im not even taking about the Altis.

    3) What world do u live in? XLi like cars arent avalible in Pakistan only, yes now they are few but low end trims of all cars are avalible in the entire world. ITs just that in Pakistan only Toyota is doing so.

    Honda and Suzuki offer only loaded cars to save production costs. As loaded cars sell more.
    1) Ah yeh i do come strongly against Toyota but ur rite we cant exclude the rest from the looting blame

    2) I get ur opinion but i personally would not rate Gli in the bracket of Civic currently but thats just me

    3) I meant our XLI being a bare bone car
    i mean a 1.3L Belta is the ideal car from Toyota in this price range and it would be loaded with features

    most ppl in Pakistan r content with featureless cars retailing for such high price
    while others would want a loaded car even if its a subcompact

    also the "Size" difference and interior capacity between iDSI and Old Xli/Gli was negligible
    thats what i meant by Corolla not being a proper C Segment car in Pakistan because iDSI was a very large Subcompact comparatively
    and Old Corolla having cramped Leg Space on back seat

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