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    Default What is 3.5 or 4.5 grade ?

    I have seen the subject gradings! Can someone explain me please what does it mean? Seen in advts of imported cars.


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    4.5 is better then 3.5

    what is so difficult about it?

    same like 7 figure salary is better then 6 figures.

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    3.5 grade ki gari sasti hogi .. or zaida chali huwi hogi . 4.5 grade ki gari kaam chali huwi hogi or bohut saaf hogi simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2c View Post
    4.5 is better then 3.5

    what is so difficult about it?

    same like 7 figure salary is better then 6 figures.
    In a race who comes on 1st position is better than who came 2nd. Similarly in class brilliant student stands first.

    Thats why i asked.

    Now i got it that 4.5 is better than 3.5.

    What is the crieteria for these gradings? Anyone else?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ikrama1 View Post
    3.5 grade ki gari sasti hogi .. or zaida chali huwi hogi . 4.5 grade ki gari kaam chali huwi hogi or bohut saaf hogi simple
    How much price difference?

    And how do we check the grading of car? I mean is it written somewhere on auction sheet / tauhaan?

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    I think it goes on the condition of the vehicle. The numbers (3,4,5) are one classification while the letters (a or simple) is another. All I know is that 5A are the cleanest top notch, spotless cars. This grading is given by the customs people at the time of export and the sheet comes with the car. In this are mentioned the other particulars of the vehicle. One needs the sheet at the time of import, registration, etc. but it is better if kept later on also to prove genuine grading by a competent authority rather than one's own self assumptions/lies as is the case here.

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    Well in most of cases(not necessarily true) 4.5 is better then 3.5. But here's my experience from car import:

    Each Auction house has its own repute and some Island's auction houses are more reputed in credibility of their auction sheets then others e.g USS Yokohama , USS Tokyo are the leaders.

    Secondly regarding grading system (R,RA,X,3,3.5,4,4.5) the general experience is following:

    R: Means Repaired is considered worse then RA but Better then X. Can contain 'XX' pieces but mostly contains W3,W2 or B3,B4 (meaning shower due to large dent/scratch or visible large dent scratch) and mileage is higher then 1 lakh

    3/3.5: Now in these grades their are high variables , some times grade is marked below 4 just because according to auction house standards over 1 lakh whatever the condition may be grade is usually down to 3.5 or 3 but their are many cases in which a 3.5 grade car is better then 4 or 4.5 because 3.5 overall exterior in terms of damage is near to nill and its grade has been lowered just due to mileage.

    More usual cases lying in this category are over 1 lakh mileage and with smal dents,visible scratces , or pieces showered due to small/medium dents scratches.

    4/4.5: Normally these have less then 1 lakh mileage and excellent interior / exterior quality but beware this is misleading too.Sometimes with 3 pieces'XX' the car is also marked 4 due to very low mileage or due to in certain cases 'TYPO' errors in auction sheet i.e the car had to be marked 'R' but was marked '4'.

    According to standard even if 1-2 pieces are showered(w1,w2) if mileage is low and over all exterior interior and perks(tv nav) are their it is marked 4 or 4.5 but exactly in these cases u have to see if some 3.5 grade is avb with mileage hight but no W's that 3.5 would be better then this. Cox mileage is not the indicator only for japan cars cox envronmentol degrading factors are very less their.

    I hope u can get some sense out of all this but this is my personal experience might be mistaken somewhere and some more experienced member can add to my knowledge.

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    Thanks for very comprehensive reply.


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    in japeneese imported cars 4.5 means very good condition while 3.5 is an average grade car but you must also check this online cause you know the 2 numbery done by local importers.
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    OK, here is something i got from website on Japanese grading system, will be helpful:

    AUCTION GRADE ( Exterior )

    S

    As new condition, under 5,000km

    5

    Vehicle is like new. All original body parts. No repair needed on vehicle. Usually only given to vehicles less than 3 years old.

    4.5

    Vehicle is in excellent condition. No slight scratches or dents.

    4

    Vehicle in good condition, few scratches/dents due to normal wear as you would get with any normal vehicle.

    3.5

    Vehicle has a few scratches or dents visibly. The grade is usually given to a vehicle in average condition.

    3

    Various scratches or dents, some paint blemishes.

    2

    wholly badly corroded, non standard car, or modified car

    1

    inferior car, basically a pile of you know what. OR ... very heavily modified car.

    RA or A1

    Vehicle has been in a minor accident. It has been repaired to an acceptable standard.

    R or A

    A vehicle which has been in an accident where some parts have been repaired or replaced.

    AUCTION GRADE (Interior )

    A

    As new condition. No faults.

    B

    Very clean condition poss. very slightly dirty.

    C

    Clean but with cigarette burn.

    D

    Dirty or stinky or big wear/rip on seats

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    Here is another one:

    S The car is less than 12 months old from the first registration date and under 10,000km.
    As good as new. The exterior and interior are in immaculate condition.
    6 The car is less than 36 months old from the first registration date and under 30,000km.
    The exterior has some very minor scratches/scrapes and dents. They may not need to be repaired.
    5 The car is under 50,000km.
    The exterior has some minor scratches/scrapes and dents. They may require some minor panel beating work and/or painting.
    4.5 The car is under 100,000km.
    The exterior becomes a grade-5 car with minor repairs.
    4 The car is under 150,000km
    The exterior has some scratches/scrapes and dents. They will require some minor panel beating work and/or painting.
    The interior has some tears, cigarette burn marks, and/or stains. They will require some minor repair.

    3.5 The exterior has some noticeable large scratches/scrapes and/or large dents. They will require some major panel beating work and/or painting.
    The interior has many tears, cigarette burn marks, and/or stains. They will require repairs.
    3 The exterior has many noticeable large scratches/scrapes, paint blemishes, and/or large dents. They will require major panel beating work and/or painting.
    The interior has many tears, cigarette burn marks, and/or stains. They will require many repairs and/or interior parts will need to be replaced.
    2 The car is in very bad condition
    1 The car which has one or more of the following :
    1. An aftermarket turbo
    2. An automatic transmission converted to manual transmission
    3. Flood damage
    4. Fire extinguisher damage
    RA The car which has had accident damage which can be ranked MINOR, and has been repaired.
    R
    The car has had accident damage and has been repaired.
    The auction definition "A car which has had accident damage" is a car that has accident damage to the following area(s) which parts were repaired or replaced :
    1. Lower Tie Bar or Frame 2. Windshield Pillar (A Pillar)
    3. Center Pillar (B Pillar) 4. Rear Pillar (C Pillar)
    5. Strut Housing 6. Roof Panel
    7. Trunk flooring Panel 8. Floor Pan
    *** The car has had accident damage, and has NOT been repaired yet. Or a car with an engine that does not work due to major engine trouble.

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    Hope someone finds this helpful

    Understanding a Japanese Car Auction Grade Sheet

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    according to some dealer hazraat in Karachi.

    the grading tells you "gaari ki kitni vaat lagee howee hai" - one dealer also gave me a scale in his own words.

    S = LUSH



    R = FARIGH

    btw - most dealers hate me in Karachi, because I arrived with OBD scanners and general inspection tools. Even a mirror on a stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    according to some dealer hazraat in Karachi.

    the grading tells you "gaari ki kitni vaat lagee howee hai" - one dealer also gave me a scale in his own words.

    S = LUSH



    R = FARIGH

    btw - most dealers hate me in Karachi, because I arrived with OBD scanners and general inspection tools. Even a mirror on a stick.
    What you like to enlighten us on what are "general inspection tools". No pun intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aahmedt View Post
    Well in most of cases(not necessarily true) 4.5 is better then 3.5. But here's my experience from car import:

    Each Auction house has its own repute and some Island's auction houses are more reputed in credibility of their auction sheets then others e.g USS Yokohama , USS Tokyo are the leaders.

    Secondly regarding grading system (R,RA,X,3,3.5,4,4.5) the general experience is following:

    R: Means Repaired is considered worse then RA but Better then X. Can contain 'XX' pieces but mostly contains W3,W2 or B3,B4 (meaning shower due to large dent/scratch or visible large dent scratch) and mileage is higher then 1 lakh

    3/3.5: Now in these grades their are high variables , some times grade is marked below 4 just because according to auction house standards over 1 lakh whatever the condition may be grade is usually down to 3.5 or 3 but their are many cases in which a 3.5 grade car is better then 4 or 4.5 because 3.5 overall exterior in terms of damage is near to nill and its grade has been lowered just due to mileage.

    More usual cases lying in this category are over 1 lakh mileage and with smal dents,visible scratces , or pieces showered due to small/medium dents scratches.

    4/4.5: Normally these have less then 1 lakh mileage and excellent interior / exterior quality but beware this is misleading too.Sometimes with 3 pieces'XX' the car is also marked 4 due to very low mileage or due to in certain cases 'TYPO' errors in auction sheet i.e the car had to be marked 'R' but was marked '4'.

    According to standard even if 1-2 pieces are showered(w1,w2) if mileage is low and over all exterior interior and perks(tv nav) are their it is marked 4 or 4.5 but exactly in these cases u have to see if some 3.5 grade is avb with mileage hight but no W's that 3.5 would be better then this. Cox mileage is not the indicator only for japan cars cox envronmentol degrading factors are very less their.

    I hope u can get some sense out of all this but this is my personal experience might be mistaken somewhere and some more experienced member can add to my knowledge.

    Thats bro, very concise and well written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    according to some dealer hazraat in Karachi.

    the grading tells you "gaari ki kitni vaat lagee howee hai" - one dealer also gave me a scale in his own words.

    S = LUSH



    R = FARIGH

    btw - most dealers hate me in Karachi, because I arrived with OBD scanners and general inspection tools. Even a mirror on a stick.
    Dear what do you mean by general inspection tools?
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