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    Default Honda Civic 8th gen vs 9th gen: A small Comparison

    Salam fellow PWers!

    Here goes a small effort of mine for a comparison between the Honda Civic 8th gen and the 9th gen. The pictorial differences are already obvious though, won't be going to them. Instead, I'll just share my own experience, the driving feel and the differences between the cars that can't actually be explained by pictures. Some practical observations you can say.

    When the 8th gen was launched, it was a big upgrade and enhancement in almost every single aspect than the old 7th gen. The looks, size, engine, transmission, interior, exterior, everything seemed like a NEW civic altogether. Nothing resembled like the old one. Even an uneducated person could tell the difference and praised it as a LOT better.

    Though, this isn't the case when it comes to 9th gen civic. People haven't been praising it, over 95% of the people are actually preferring 8th gen over 9th gen. But I must say, for a person who has been used to 8th gen in terms of daily driven vehicles, its a really significant upgrade.

    My observation is based on a comparison vs Oriel manual 8th gen and Oriel Prosmatec 9th gen; somewhat an "odd" couple of trims as people may say, but to me, it feels quite ok if one has to judge the drive, ride quality and significant improvements over the time. I have tried to cover almost everything, wasn't easy to distribute the information under different headings, but still I did try, I hope its not as difficult to understand as I think.

    Ride Quality/Drive experience:


    The ride quality, driving experience, the stability etc is very much different than the 8th generation. The suspension is quite a lot softer, the ride feeling is leaned towards the family sedan concept rather than the sportiness, the characteristic honda civic drive. I drove it on motorway, at speeds exceeding 170-180kph, on stock eurostars, the stability was impressive. Comparing it to the 8th gen's factor, its stability I don't consider questionable owing to the factor of a hard suspension system.

    Its more like a sweet combination of sport and comfort. At crusing speeds of 100-120kph, the car feels as smooth as it could ever be. No uncomfortable feelings at all even on the roads having worst cover of tar and potholes. 8th gen civic felt uncomfortable to me at those roads, esp in my hometown area, @ahmadbila knows what I am talking about.

    Also, I am used to travelling in the 8th gen since quite a while now, and I always feel tired after a journey of 3-4 hours. The roads aren't driver friendly here. But kust as I felt fresh after the same drive in a friends altis, it was a refreshing experience on the 9th gen as well. Probably cz of the excitement (lol) but I think the suspension is a great improvement, an overhaul.

    Engine/Power-train:

    Coming to the engine, as we all know, the engine hasn't been changed over the generation. Its the same 1799cc R18a iVTEC motor. Therefore the power remains almost the same. Power/weight ratio isn't much different either. However, the prosmatec 9th gen I drove gave me a very clear and obvious idea of one good change over the time, and thats the reduced transmission lags. I dont really know the technical values, its just a clear observation off my experience with both. Gear ratios are essentially the same, in both manual and prosmatec, nothing is changed as such. But the feel when you floor a 9th gen civic is totally different. Its much MORE responsive at low rpms, the ivtec function disengages more swiftly and delivers power in lesser time than the 8th gen, i.e, if you need to escape a situation or you need to take panga (), just floor it and you won't notice it crossing the speeds of 130-140kph, simply effortless.

    I experienced a few friendly runs with 8th gen oriel manual and 9th gen oriel prosmatec, I must say, unless there is a very experienced swift shifter behind the 8th gen's wheel, the 9th gen keeps the run neck to neck at almost all speeds, at least thats what I saw upto 160kph on a normal road, not motorway.

    Fuel economy:

    The most important part, fuel economy. Its obvious, 9th gen's comparison vs the 8th gen in terms of that isn't quite justified.
    Despite being a prosmatec, the 9th gen delivered a lot better mileage figures than the 8th gen. The part that I loved the most was the fact that 9th gen's mileage figures actually vary with driving styles. With the 8th gen, varying driving styles wasn't much of a technique to improve the mileage.

    The motor has been tweaked such has to behave like a gas guzzler at speeds and high rpms (bombastic driving in short) and to serve as an economy vehicle with smooth, balanced driving.

    If the 8th gen was driven anything above 120, the mileage figurs would always be around 11-13kpl, nothing more than that. but if the 9th gen is driven, lets say at a constant speed of 120kph, its possible to acheive more than 15-16kpl on a prosmatec transmission without much hassle of hypermiling. Econ is a very nice feature, its one of the big highlights serving as a reason for the 8th-9th upgrade.

    Braking:

    Braking, in the 8th gen civic era, it was probably the best stock braking system that was equipped in the car. Nothing braked like an 8th gen civic. For the 9th gen, the braking is very well up to the mark even with crap eurostars. I had a few close encounters in one of the most pathetic driving conditions in Pakistan and the braking served very well.

    One thing I did notice was the sound of ABS kicking in. The 8th gen civic sound could be heard like a significant "grr grr grr" but in he 9th gen, its HARDLY even noticeable as a noise. A regular driver would need a lot of keen observation to notice the system coming into play.

    Cabin Noise:

    Cabin noise, this is the thing I loved a lot about the 9th gen. The engine revving above 4k rpms on a highway is a lot quiter than the 8th gen. Loved it. When pushed above 170 kph, there was only a slight sound of vroom inside the cabin and the song that played from the stock audio was still enjoyable.

    Road Clearance:

    The road clearance of the 9th gen is to die for, esp after one has experienced an 8th gen as a family sedan. I drove it with 5 people, it felt totally perfect, didn't bother touching any of the normally designed speed breakers. For the oddly placed ones, like designed by sheeda mochi in front of his shop etc, its a different case though.

    Visibility; Day/Night:

    The visibilty has been improved a lot. The corners, pillar blind spots etc have minimized significantly, thanks to the bigger pillar glasses. The car feels a bit compact than the 8th gen when driving through dense traffic, more like a honda city.

    For the night, well I must say that projector lamps serve a lot in nght driving, headlight visibilty range is better than normal parabolic lamps. The cut off is sharp, even when used with HIDs, functions excellent.

    The interior:

    Yes writing specially about this thing, the interior is a lot classier than the 8th gen civic. Feels a bit too cozy though, but its the way its styled to be. Doesn't feel odd at all. After being in a 9th gen, almost every other PKDM car of this class feels primitive. I like it. <3

    A few things which I missed and disliked:

    The only thing I missed A LOT in the 9th gen was the organ type accelerator pedal. It was very comfortable feature, you could rest your foot on it for prolonged periods of time without feeling itchy and tucky. The 9th gen gas pedal is once again downgraded to a simple one

    The dual tip exhaust is also something to be missed.

    The rear reading lights are also gone.

    Below the climate control buttons, in front of the shift lever, there is around 3 or four square inches of blank space, looked very odd to me.

    Looks (a side note):

    The only thing that has been criticised a lot about this car is its looks. Esp the exterior. The lifted rear end which resembles the pre-facelift 5th generation honda city. Well, for that I must say, it isn't much of an excuse. After what you're getting in that price tag, looks is the last thing which matters. Especially in Pakistan, where you have ONLY two cars: civic vs altis.

    And its something which is gonna fit in your eyes after all. Apni har cheez hoobsoorat lagti hai bhai.

    I remember a brother syaing k "6 saal poraani shape se bore nahi huay?" and there was one who said "gari dekhni to doosron ne hoti hai, aapko konsi dikh rahi hoti hai when driving?"

    Conclusion:

    The 9th gen is an improved vehicle in almost every aspect that matters over its predecessor. Fuel economy, suspension, comfort, features etc; I can't actually think of any reason of NOT upgrading if budget isn't an issue.

    I recommend go for it if you have the $$$ and want a change. Its well worth its price tag and will be keeping you happy.


    P.S Apologies for the mistakes (if any). Its late and I am sleepy.

    Comments welcomed, correct me if I wrote something wrong here, do keep in mind the fact that all of this was my PERSONAL observation and opinion. Nothing technical or bookish has been implied.
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    I seriously doubt on the acceleration part and handling part. My elder bro shahzad has an 9th gen auto and i have an 8th gen manual. And the difference is quite big when u accelerate. The 8th gen accelerates quite faster. 8th gens wheel base is also longer i think which is an advantage in how it handles.

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    Mileage of my civic getting better and better as evident in the pic..
    totally driven intracity, topped-up at 570 with two points left.. personally of the view that it can easily do 600 if you drive a bit carefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMobile View Post
    Its TREND IN PAKISTAN. Every new SHAPE people start blaming OLD SHAPE IS GOOD. and after some time buy same new shape.


    I
    personally capture a picture of CIVIC 8th GEN and 9th gen together.. and Asked more than 20 common people. Most of the persons like 9th GEN shape.
    totally agreed


    Quote Originally Posted by mubeenshahid View Post
    Nice review .Only thing disappointing is the looks .When the new civic is coming from front on road from far i cant guess is it a civic or city.
    the front is confusing for sure from far off

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyromaniac View Post
    Mileage of my civic getting better and better as evident in the pic..
    totally driven intracity, topped-up at 570 with two points left.. personally of the view that it can easily do 600 if you drive a bit carefully.
    Wow that is mind blowing

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    Excellent and detailed review, especially for a person like me who bought a 9th after the 7th gen civic. So now I know what the 8th was like when compared to the 9th,thanks to this comprehensive review.
    And I 100% agree with all the points you have mentioned about the 9th gen.



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    Old wine in new bottle they are making fool by adding a screen to the dashboard, projector in headlights and putting a green button with ECO on it.

    The only good thing is that they are planting a tree on purchase of a civic.

    Same old school handling and drive with outdated powertrain.

    It drive like a dinosaur and drink fuel like one too.

    The only good thing is that its cheaper and a touch better than the old one since they have changed the shape and improved suspension tuning nothing else.

    A 2009 Mazda Axela 1.5L can run two circles around it while drinking 25% more fuel with way above comfort and equipment and the best part is that it would cost a million rupees less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omar_575 View Post
    Excellent and detailed review, especially for a person like me who bought a 9th after the 7th gen civic. So now I know what the 8th was like when compared to the 9th,thanks to this comprehensive review.
    And I 100% agree with all the points you have mentioned about the 9th gen.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali_idris View Post
    I seriously doubt on the acceleration part and handling part. My elder bro shahzad has an 9th gen auto and i have an 8th gen manual. And the difference is quite big when u accelerate. The 8th gen accelerates quite faster. 8th gens wheel base is also longer i think which is an advantage in how it handles.
    Wheel base is the same, sir, as per my little knowledge. If you have any technical data, please do share with us as we'll be learning something new this way.

    As for the acceleration part, well it depends. At the time I drove both of these, of course manual had an edge owing to the factor of quick shifting but even then, I didn't feel the Prosmatec "lagging" behind in any way, however its quite possible that manual may win on Motorway but at least on a normal country side road, Prosmatec was a really tough competition for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradpit View Post
    Old wine in new bottle they are making fool by adding a screen to the dashboard, projector in headlights and putting a green button with ECO on it.

    The only good thing is that they are planting a tree on purchase of a civic.

    Same old school handling and drive with outdated powertrain.

    It drive like a dinosaur and drink fuel like one too.

    The only good thing is that its cheaper and a touch better than the old one since they have changed the shape and improved suspension tuning nothing else.

    A 2009 Mazda Axela 1.5L can run two circles around it while drinking 25% more fuel with way above comfort and equipment and the best part is that it would cost a million rupees less.
    Bhai jee, aap na khareedain, simple as that. Handling is not the same, doesn't drive like a dinosaur and your statement of it being a gas guzzler is simply failure, nothing else. I am pretty sure you haven't even sat in one till date and probably never will.

    And oh, no one has told you not to go for axela instead of civic, you may own 3 axelas instead of one.
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    I agree with most of the points which fawad bhai has written.
    - Cabin noise is extremely low in new civic.
    - I felt braking and handling of 8th gen is better than new 9th gen.
    - 8th generation responds more aggressively than 9th gen. 9th gen feels more like a family car. while 8th gen gives you a bit of sporty feeling.
    - Steering of 9th gen is very smooth. But I prefer Hydraulic as it gives more road feedback and you have full control over car. EPS is just too light.
    - Mileage of 9th gen is slightly better than 8th gen(talking about manuals) and 9th gen out stands 8th gen in prosmatec category.
    - 9th gen has better road clearance than 8th gen.
    - 9th gen is more comfortable than 8th gen. At least I felt it.
    - Interior of 9th gen is far more better and looks futuristic but quality has gone down. I owned an 8th gen of late 2006 era. It was one of the earlier models of 8th gen which were rolled out of factory. Quality was very much better.
    - Looks of 8th gen are far more superior than 9th gen. Everyone has his own liking. But to me, 8th gen civic's shape is one of the best shape of civic if compared to new one and previous generations.
    Conclusion is same as poster has written. 9th gen is improved vehicle regarding fuel consumption, comfort, features etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyromaniac View Post
    Mileage of my civic getting better and better as evident in the pic..
    totally driven intracity, topped-up at 570 with two points left.. personally of the view that it can easily do 600 if you drive a bit carefully.
    Why my I-MID is display is blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by umair2203 View Post
    Why my I-MID is display is blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    bhai app ne pure pase nahi dye company ko
    Bhai ik dfa pese le kr dobara maang lye the pese cpmpany ne tu ( after 1st July )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    bhai app ne pure pase nahi dye company ko
    Ahmed bhai Now I feel that I could have opted for leather interior. Factory fitted leather is premium and better than after market. Now I am going to stick with stock fabric

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    Quote Originally Posted by umair2203 View Post
    Why my I-MID is display is blue

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    You can change the color in menu located on steering.There are different options of settings of I-MID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABHS View Post
    You can change the color in menu located on steering.There are different options of settings of I-MID.
    Tell me how. I looked in the menu it only displayed the option of adjusting clock and reseting or selecting trip meter.

    May be I wasn't looking right

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    After pressing MENU scroll through + and - signs for further options. I am at the moment not in front of steering but will let you know exactly about it. You can adjust different colors of I-MID screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umair2203 View Post
    Tell me how. I looked in the menu it only displayed the option of adjusting clock and reseting or selecting trip meter.

    May be I wasn't looking right

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    Quote Originally Posted by umair2203 View Post
    Ahmed bhai Now I feel that I could have opted for leather interior. Factory fitted leather is premium and better than after market. Now I am going to stick with stock fabric

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    u are right , new civic leather interior giving something expensive luxury looks and feels, as like halvai dont like methai so i also dont like leather seats but new civic leather interior also attracts me, its not about all leather but its stitching style ( loose plates type ) gives a look of expensive german cars.

    factory fitted leather is honda standerd approved leather while in aftermarket mostly people call leather to leatherite or rexine.
    some shops do have real leather which are mostly stocklots from import or from domestic tanneries but those leathers are not purpose built for leather seats so they dont match car seat leather standards in smell, scratch resistance, tear resistance , color fastness properties etc etc

    buy 2 bottles of 3m scotchguard auto fabric and carpet protector as shown in this attachment https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/body-work-interior-paint-glass-ppearance/207170-car-care-detailing-dreams-part-2-a-2 spray on all seats and , floor carps , door linings, even roof lining , leave over night and in morning wipe with clean , dry microfiber , now everything is water/ tea, coffee, ice cream or any spot resistance
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    I sold the 8th gen prosmatec & bought the 9th gen (prosmatec again).
    I agree with all the points you've mentioned.
    It responds better than the 8th gen with the econ mode off. When econ is on, it becomes quite sluggish, but ofcourse, extremely efficient.
    The major improvement over the previous civic is its comfort. 9th gen feels highly premium. 8th gen doesnt seem appropriate for pakistani roads, cuz it jumps like crazy even over minor bumps.

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