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    Dear All fellows! Happy Eid mubarak. On eid day we received a painful message about a severe road accident of one of our cousins. He was traveling on motorway on his corolla XLI with his family when suddenly a lift truck changed his lane and he smashed into it leaving his car into total loss condition ,he got severe skull injuries and ended up being operated and gasping for breath for his life. The nutshell is the Xli's speed was 120 and he tried to brake suddenly neither it stopped, nor it had airbags to save them from frontal collision.

    I was thinking life and death is in the hands of Allah.There can be many reasons for this accident. One of many reasons is the poor quality of toyota and lack of safety features i.e no ABS, NO AIR BAGS. etc. I was cursing what the hell we get out of 1.6 millions that we pay for a new car and get nothing out of it. Isn't it a joke that you pay nearly 2 millions to get toyota Altis, get a driver who drives the car, God forbid you meet an accident like above-mentioned, The only Airbag in the Altis saves the driver but the owner gets seriously hurt, endangered his life just because there is no second air bag??
    This post is not meant to blame toyota only, even Honda doesn't have these features in it's City models be it 1.3 or 1.5. My brother in law has just bought new city Ivtec 1.3 without Airbags for 1.6 millions while his younger brother possesses Daihatsu Mira 660 cc worth 0.8 million exactly half of the price of city but it has dual airbags making it more safe than City worth 1.6 millions.
    Not to talk of Pak suzuki which can't even meet the minimum quality requirements. Just buy a zero meter bolan, mehran etc and you'll end up crying for your hard earned money being wasted on these craps.
    I'm sorry for this long post. It's not a new topic. The question is can't we launch a complaint against these auto manufacturers to provide these minimum quality features?? can't we get the value for the money spent ??


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    yea i guess that was his dashboard or something or steering that he said opened up which needed sewing etc n he couldnt get that fixed n the air bag put back in or a new one,thats something one never thinks of since mostly they think air bag will deploy when car will crash n become a scrap

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmanhassan000 View Post
    ignorance is a bliss mr xulfiqar, i have now seen how wrong this saying is. You know alot about cars but that is the end.
    yep - because any force who aims guns on its own citizens with the safety unlatched and motive to KILL just to protect their "general sb" while the country is NOT in a state of war - is not a protective force in my eyes. Holding guns and rifles does not authorize power.

    They are the same level of street thugs you see everywhere in the city.

    And this was when they were preventing a freaking ambulance with a cardiac arrest patient inside it. Can you provide any reasonable excuse for this?

    -- I'd rather be in ignorance. Please dont give me **** and bull stories of how the army is a bunch of angels who have jawans that are superhuman and are saints too. They eat up the biggest chunk of budget and still you have terrorist attacks from outside - apparently. In any system specially something like the army protocol - loss of victory is not blamed on high or low ranks - its blamed on the WHOLE.

    You know who can remedy it - we can but should we?

    for comparison i have been in third world african countries and have seen a difference in very exact situations. A person's life when in such a critical condition is more important than speeding shiny black cars with flags on them.

    well - you must have very romantic and poetic views about the Pak army where they are next to Hz Jibraeel in nature - good for you. Doesnt make a difference to me. We were discussing why the system is corrupt and why life is cheaply valued in Pakistan - I wrote my personal experience - involving a simple transport situation, I have got many others too - but that would open a pandoras box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    yea i guess that was his dashboard or something or steering that he said opened up which needed sewing etc n he couldnt get that fixed n the air bag put back in or a new one,thats something one never thinks of since mostly they think air bag will deploy when car will crash n become a scrap
    I think the guy was nuts or something - you do not attempt to repair such parts, they cannot be repaired as they are made to break up in such event - The breaking up is the safety. Replacement of the parts is mandatory, in driver case with only 1 air bag the steering horn pad is replaced along with the clockspring. In the passenger case the entire dashboard pad is replaced. depending on how many air bags your car has, e.g. 8 - meanign 4 per side - if you lost 4 bags in an event you need all the repalcement parts which hold the bag and the bag modules. Its not a cheap fix.
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    Mr Xulfiqar pls refrain fm indulging in unnecessary discussion on subject which u ve no knowledge. One odd incident is not a wholesome picture. Stay cool.

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    OK guys I have a budget of 12.5lakh & I want a ZERO METER Automatic ride, now tell me what options I have??
    -MEHRAN Manual (6.60)
    -CULTUS Manual (10.29)
    -SWIFT Automatic (14.18)

    If I go for used PKDM then I can get
    -Corolla
    -Civic
    -City

    Instead of buying used abused PKDM y not to go for used JDM with lot of attractive features, latest technology & safety with proper auction sheet???

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    Who will certify that it's not abused JDM?? . Auction sheets reverse meter are done in blink of an eye.. who will give a guarantee..?? No one.. You need to visit the port and see the cars.. majority of them get refurbishment before they reach showrooms.. I m not expert but this is what I always hear.


    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    OK guys I have a budget of 12.5lakh & I want a ZERO METER Automatic ride, now tell me what options I have??
    -MEHRAN Manual (6.60)
    -CULTUS Manual (10.29)
    -SWIFT Automatic (14.18)

    If I go for used PKDM then I can get
    -Corolla
    -Civic
    -City

    Instead of buying used abused PKDM y not to go for used JDM with lot of attractive features, latest technology & safety with proper auction sheet???


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    IMO the Abused JDM cars are far better than the New PKDM cars. The features which they are offering plus if you are little careful in selection then you might get a good piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by galaxy3 View Post
    Mr Xulfiqar pls refrain fm indulging in unnecessary discussion on subject which u ve no knowledge. One odd incident is not a wholesome picture. Stay cool.
    sure - so you reckon I should have thanked them for their act and asked them to shoot my dad dead in the ambulance just to rid him of his agony?

    it would have made them really proud and maybe get promoted too..

    anyway - as proven I have no knowledge on this and that my father is not alive anymore, I should think otherwise but experience is what writes history.

    so - lets get back to how to buy a car with airbags to survive a crash because the driver was texting on this phone - and also how to sew the thing back into its pocket once it deploys because new ones are 'spensive"
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    here's the thread
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/mem...hboard-problem

    seems he replaced it since he couldnt find any1 to put it back lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by galaxy3 View Post
    Mr Xulfiqar pls refrain fm indulging in unnecessary discussion on subject which u ve no knowledge. One odd incident is not a wholesome picture. Stay cool.
    I can write few pages of blog on such act of 'brutality' & 'Firounyaat' with clear picture with name locations numbers of 'escort' & 'tail' vehicles. wrote whole detial once to cowasjee (late) he got it printed verbatim in the newspaper 2 weeks later I was put 1 to 1 in face with the then MP Commander of 33 MP Karachi at Cowasjee bath island residence present was Jamil Yousuf equally pissed like me. Lt. Gen Tariq Ghazi was the Corps commander at that time - the MP dude chickened out failed to reason & agreed to consider certain SOPs offered to implement during ' VIP ' movement.

    get your facts for metro Karachi populted in approx 22 sq kms . garrision town of PIND is size of ONE UC of district EAST of KHI & ghost town called capital is smaller then District East of Karachi. Please live & let live, if not educated act educated
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    please locate member Sharabhi have a discussion give him your budget & choice of sedan or hatch, - be clear in your choice & budget, he surely can help with a 'less abused ' JDM

    3 year old JDM, zero meter you can do it yourself before registration a simple teeeweek can reset the digital odos YOU know what I mean ! hehheeh EC 1 box

    i need a vehicle change and yet am unable to make up my mind for local vehicles. But if ETIOS is launched I may buy one because 1st 100 units of Toyota & Suzuki are always imported, Honda cut it to 25 units & honda is a motorcycle maker since my childhood


    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    OK guys I have a budget of 12.5lakh & I want a ZERO METER Automatic ride, now tell me what options I have??
    -MEHRAN Manual (6.60)
    -CULTUS Manual (10.29)
    -SWIFT Automatic (14.18)

    If I go for used PKDM then I can get
    -Corolla
    -Civic
    -City

    Instead of buying used abused PKDM y not to go for used JDM with lot of attractive features, latest technology & safety with proper auction sheet???
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    Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
    Who will certify that it's not abused JDM?? . Auction sheets reverse meter are done in blink of an eye.. who will give a guarantee..?? No one.. You need to visit the port and see the cars.. majority of them get refurbishment before they reach showrooms.. I m not expert but this is what I always hear.






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    Actually, if one does a little research he can find the car on the Japanese auction sites and verify the car from there. I know because I did that and I verified it for my own satisfaction.

    Otherwise we Pakwheelers always have @Sharabhi from whom we can get JDM cars imported but the downside is we have to wait 1-1.5 months which I don't think is bad considering how our local dealers operate, at least one will have the peace of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
    Who will certify that it's not abused JDM?? . Auction sheets reverse meter are done in blink of an eye.. who will give a guarantee..?? No one.. You need to visit the port and see the cars.. majority of them get refurbishment before they reach showrooms.. I m not expert but this is what I always hear.






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    Man i have some Automotive sense with that i can distinguish between repaired & new vehicle.
    I do hav some personal contacts so not a big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by capsat View Post
    please locate member Sharabhi have a discussion give him your budget & choice of sedan or hatch, - be clear in your choice & budget, he surely can help with a 'less abused ' JDM

    3 year old JDM, zero meter you can do it yourself before registration a simple teeeweek can reset the digital odos YOU know what I mean ! hehheeh EC 1 box

    i need a vehicle change and yet am unable to make up my mind for local vehicles. But if ETIOS is launched I may buy one because 1st 100 units of Toyota & Suzuki are always imported, Honda cut it to 25 units & honda is a motorcycle maker since my childhood
    Hahahaha i know that CHU MANTAR EC1 box . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
    Who will certify that it's not abused JDM?? . Auction sheets reverse meter are done in blink of an eye.. who will give a guarantee..?? No one.. You need to visit the port and see the cars.. majority of them get refurbishment before they reach showrooms.. I m not expert but this is what I always hear.
    and Who will certify that used PKDM r not abused? dealers sell fully accidented pkdm as total genuine (bumper to bumper untouched), if ppl can reverse JDM odometer then is it hard for them to reverse PKDM odometer???

    the thing is that never listen to dealers, if u have some know how about cars then buy used car else go for zero meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    here's the thread
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/mem...hboard-problem

    seems he replaced it since he couldnt find any1 to put it back lol
    U see how paki feels happy when they dont have Air bag in their vehicles
    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    airbags are such a headache in this case,good that there are no airbags in 7th gen civic atleast

    btw 2months passed and you are still driving your car in that condition
    Quote Originally Posted by bilawalx View Post
    Hey guys ! I replaced the steering wheel and got a new dashboard !
    Finally ! Thanks fahad but I found its parts here, who says Honda life's parts are not available !?
    Nah I wasn't driving it at all its my bhabi's car, I've got a vitz.
    So after all this I've learned that the air bags save your life but the repairing cost will kill you for sure !

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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    OK guys I have a budget of 12.5lakh & I want a ZERO METER Automatic ride, now tell me what options I have??
    -MEHRAN Manual (6.60)
    -CULTUS Manual (10.29)
    -SWIFT Automatic (14.18)

    If I go for used PKDM then I can get
    -Corolla
    -Civic
    -City

    Instead of buying used abused PKDM y not to go for used JDM with lot of attractive features, latest technology & safety with proper auction sheet???
    What do you expect to buy in the JDM category? Still USED AND ABUSED little hatchback dinkies, Japanese buy them, **** in them, use them for every little task in their lives and then sell it to exporters who send them to Pakistan where they're refurbished on the ports with surf and petrol mixtures.

    Then given ODO reversals, and made GENYAN LOW MILEAGE cars.

    Do you think the japanese are dumb like us?

    They don't use civics and Premios for daily commuting, small dinkies is the answer when it comes to daily driving over there. Guys like you buy their abused cars as if they were tied to a tree the whole lifetime and the japanese waxed them and sent them to us as souveniers, all for the love of Pakistani Motor Vehicle Markets.


    JDMs are only trust worthy in terms of Mark X, Accord, Premio and above. Heck! Sharabi imported a premio driven 176k Kms from Japan! LOL. You think these ugly fugly dinkies are actually 5-50k kms used. DUH.

    Nothing is cheap and free and there is nothing known as a "shortcut" to the worldly luxuries. Work hard, earn more, live better.

    Don't mention XLi, 2nzFE and airbag ***** in your next reply, its useless.

    I will buy a Corolla GLi or a City Aspire anyday, stick to yourself enjoying the underpowered vitz dinki, abused Axio or an already farted in Corolla Luxel (peeli headlights wali ) in 16 lakhs with all the bags and baloons you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    and Who will certify that used PKDM r not abused? dealers sell fully accidented pkdm as total genuine (bumper to bumper untouched), if ppl can reverse JDM odometer then is it hard for them to reverse PKDM odometer???

    the thing is that never listen to dealers, if u have some know how about cars then buy used car else go for zero meter.
    Buy me a zero meter JDM cheaper than PKDM, keeping in mind it should be a sedan compared to a sedan and not XLi vs ?1@$ Vitz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    What do you expect to buy in the JDM category? Still USED AND ABUSED little hatchback dinkies, Japanese buy them, **** in them, use them for every little task in their lives and then sell it to exporters who send them to Pakistan where they're refurbished on the ports with surf and petrol mixtures.

    Then given ODO reversals, and made GENYAN LOW MILEAGE cars.

    Do you think the japanese are dumb like us?

    They don't use civics and Premios for daily commuting, small dinkies is the answer when it comes to daily driving over there. Guys like you buy their abused cars as if they were tied to a tree the whole lifetime and the japanese waxed them and sent them to us as souveniers, all for the love of Pakistani Motor Vehicle Markets.


    JDMs are only trust worthy in terms of Mark X, Accord, Premio and above. Heck! Sharabi imported a premio driven 176k Kms from Japan! LOL. You think these ugly fugly dinkies are actually 5-50k kms used. DUH.

    Nothing is cheap and free and there is nothing known as a "shortcut" to the worldly luxuries. Work hard, earn more, live better.

    Don't mention XLi, 2nzFE and airbag ***** in your next reply, its useless.

    I will buy a Corolla GLi or a City Aspire anyday, stick to yourself enjoying the underpowered vitz dinki, abused Axio or an already farted in Corolla Luxel (peeli headlights wali ) in 16 lakhs with all the bags and baloons you want.
    Full Size Sedan waley Chaudary Sahib dont forget that we r living in a country where streets are narrow, over crowded, small houses, no parking areas, and fuel prices r going high & high.

    everyone is looking for compact small size smart car with all advance features.

    But Chaudary Sahib ne tu bs Full Size Sedan Corolla he lene hai Quality of local made vehicles - smiley tongue out, features, safety or smartness ka inho ne aachar dalna hai, ab ma fully Size ki Sedan Pandu corolla ap ke ghar aa kr park karo?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Buy me a zero meter JDM cheaper than PKDM, keeping in mind it should be a sedan compared to a sedan and not XLi vs ?1@$ Vitz.
    what the hell with sedan???

    Chaudary sahib i live alone ok ab ma ne Sedan le kr us ka Aachar dalna hai???? Chaudary sahib ap pakistan mei wide roads + parking area bana de phr Khuda ki qasam ma TRUCK lon ga full size ka

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