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    Dear All fellows! Happy Eid mubarak. On eid day we received a painful message about a severe road accident of one of our cousins. He was traveling on motorway on his corolla XLI with his family when suddenly a lift truck changed his lane and he smashed into it leaving his car into total loss condition ,he got severe skull injuries and ended up being operated and gasping for breath for his life. The nutshell is the Xli's speed was 120 and he tried to brake suddenly neither it stopped, nor it had airbags to save them from frontal collision.

    I was thinking life and death is in the hands of Allah.There can be many reasons for this accident. One of many reasons is the poor quality of toyota and lack of safety features i.e no ABS, NO AIR BAGS. etc. I was cursing what the hell we get out of 1.6 millions that we pay for a new car and get nothing out of it. Isn't it a joke that you pay nearly 2 millions to get toyota Altis, get a driver who drives the car, God forbid you meet an accident like above-mentioned, The only Airbag in the Altis saves the driver but the owner gets seriously hurt, endangered his life just because there is no second air bag??
    This post is not meant to blame toyota only, even Honda doesn't have these features in it's City models be it 1.3 or 1.5. My brother in law has just bought new city Ivtec 1.3 without Airbags for 1.6 millions while his younger brother possesses Daihatsu Mira 660 cc worth 0.8 million exactly half of the price of city but it has dual airbags making it more safe than City worth 1.6 millions.
    Not to talk of Pak suzuki which can't even meet the minimum quality requirements. Just buy a zero meter bolan, mehran etc and you'll end up crying for your hard earned money being wasted on these craps.
    I'm sorry for this long post. It's not a new topic. The question is can't we launch a complaint against these auto manufacturers to provide these minimum quality features?? can't we get the value for the money spent ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    U see how paki feels happy when they dont have Air bag in their vehicles
    yea its quite a relief,anything else?
    who tells u to race n then die saying oh there was no air bag or wait my jdm has a airbag so lets race it'll save me

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    yea its quite a relief,anything else?
    who tells u to race n then die saying oh there was no air bag or wait my jdm has a airbag so lets race it'll save me
    what if u r driving with very care & some one hits u??
    i am against racing stuff & Modifications

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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    what if u r driving with very care & some one hits u??
    i am against racing stuff & Modifications
    in that case,death n life is also pre determined

    also em not against airbags,but the cost is quite alot for replacing it esp if its gonna come out on a little impact

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    Alhamdolillah Allah has saved his life but he has got serious injuries nearly everywhere on his head and his whole head is bandaged, still in ICU and doctors say he would be hospitalized for another many days may be one month or so.
    I'm surprised at some of the answers where people claim that we can't afford airbags and that if the company would provide, it would be beyond our reach. My brother in law has bought Mira 2009 for Rs.8.20 lakhs with dual airbags whereas we get new mehran for nearly 7 lakhs. Just tell me 1.20 lakhs are more costly than a life? Same goes for the bigger vehicles. It's actually the lack of rules & regulations that these auto manufacturers charge us heavily without even the basic safety features. If Govt binds these PKdMs to provide minimum features in all vehicles, they'll either provide these in the given prices or will wind up from here. So, they shouldn't be left unchecked for whatever they are manufacturing. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by race_addicted View Post
    Alhamdolillah Allah has saved his life but he has got serious injuries nearly everywhere on his head and his whole head is bandaged, still in ICU and doctors say he would be hospitalized for another many days may be one month or so.
    I'm surprised at some of the answers where people claim that we can't afford airbags and that if the company would provide, it would be beyond our reach. My brother in law has bought Mira 2009 for Rs.8.20 lakhs with dual airbags whereas we get new mehran for nearly 7 lakhs. Just tell me 1.20 lakhs are more costly than a life? Same goes for the bigger vehicles. It's actually the lack of rules & regulations that these auto manufacturers charge us heavily without even the basic safety features. If Govt binds these PKdMs to provide minimum features in all vehicles, they'll either provide these in the given prices or will wind up from here. So, they shouldn't be left unchecked for whatever they are manufacturing. Cheers.
    these locals r suviving because of their monopoly
    some leader comes saying this n that,gets their pockets filled n gets quiet
    rest what one buys is really upto them,like u said mira for 8.2 but some other might argue that new is new n that it has cheap parts though i dont like it
    btw u wonder why one cant add 1.2 more n yet your own relative spent 1.5m on xli,u should ask them WHY?? no offence but u raise fingers on others n dont see what ur own relatives did
    May they get well soon
    khair quite frankly if i had the cash i might get a jdm depending on the pros n cons list but new is new n not abused by any1 except for the xli's n mehran's

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    these locals r suviving because of their monopoly
    some leader comes saying this n that,gets their pockets filled n gets quiet
    rest what one buys is really upto them,like u said mira for 8.2 but some other might argue that new is new n that it has cheap parts though i dont like it
    btw u wonder why one cant add 1.2 more n yet your own relative spent 1.5m on xli,u should ask them WHY?? no offence but u raise fingers on others n dont see what ur own relatives did
    May they get well soon
    khair quite frankly if i had the cash i might get a jdm depending on the pros n cons list but new is new n not abused by any1 except for the xli's n mehran's
    u r right new is new
    Quality of local made vehicles - 1278804d1381150719 ecc panel revisit automobile policy indus motor hit lowest sales imageuploadedbytapatalk1381150704452898

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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    u r right new is new
    Quality of local made vehicles - 1278804d1381150719 ecc panel revisit automobile policy indus motor hit lowest sales imageuploadedbytapatalk1381150704452898
    i know u love to praise jdm's n i dont want that argument
    i said that jdms are good but new is new,so both parties should b happy including u

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    Alla ditta buy Honda 50 clutch less 4 forward, full syncromesh ghyr_bax 2 seater can accomodat upto 3, flushed-in basket, rear bag carrier, 70km / litre. Topun Tap run upto 80 kp/h - no issue of parking space - optional: helmet & extended chain lock for khumba locking. Kidher parhay likhay jaison wali soch mai goum hai yar. apni lungi mai reh alla dittay

    [ i wonder how cheap & Free can be sentenced in single line for a commodity. while how ??? work hard earn more can be quantified in our beloved country. Unless it is Sarakari Noukri with Fazl-ay rabbi considered Hard work & Earn more ]

    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    what the hell with sedan???

    Chaudary sahib i live alone ok ab ma ne Sedan le kr us ka Aachar dalna hai???? Chaudary sahib ap pakistan mei wide roads + parking area bana de phr Khuda ki qasam ma TRUCK lon ga full size ka
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    lol ^ ^ ^

    guyz cool down , none here is brand ambassedor of JDM n PKDM cars , relax

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    here's the thread
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/mem...hboard-problem

    seems he replaced it since he couldnt find any1 to put it back lol

    seems like a guy who spent ALL his money on buying the car but has no money for insurance or even repairs.

    same sort of people who want to buy used junkyard sensors and parts to keep their cars in "tip taap shaep" - bhai air bag ki dulhan bananee hai

    bhaijaan resale kaise hogee phattay howea dashbord se?
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    for anyone who wants to see how an airbag works in real life - check this video - the sound is real, the speed is real and its hot as an oven when it contacts you, say good bye to your nose, eyelashes and eyebrows

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    Yahan sab law law kheil rae hain, How many on this forum actually have car insurance?, Besides leased cars, Or Atleast third party insurance? if you have insurance why do u care about the airbags coming out and cost of repairs.

    Cars made in Pakistan are no different quality then the ones made in rest of the asia, See indonesia and thai cars that have been imported by Honda and Toyota Pakistan, Or for the matter see korean cars Chevrolet or Korean Mercedece Vans that came in 10 years ago.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    I actually had full insurance in Pakistan for my cars - paid me a no. of times and I dont give a damn about jenyan paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    Ji ji



    In Pakistan most of the people hav CHAUDARY mentality, they jst care for parts, resale value & more thn tht bs full Size sedan ho, or woh bhi Pandu Corolla style mei.

    Jab insan zinda he nah rahe phr parts or resale ka aachar dalna hai?? Safety comes first

    Agr hum log in local cars ko purchase krna band kr de tu du din mei PKDM car manufacturers theek ho jaye but again Chaudary sahib ne features or safety ka kiya krna hai??

    Vitz r equipped with 8-Air bags (including 4-curtain Airbags) but in local cars it very hard to find even a single Air bag.
    @rollonbgmama sir g dual airbag ni yahan to dual ids wala darama ha
    air bag air bag air bag air bag air bag air bag
    lagy raho shabash
    pehly 1 tha ab 2 air bag ho gai han
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    @rollonbgmama sir g dual airbag ni yahan to dual ids wala darama ha
    air bag air bag air bag air bag air bag air bag
    lagy raho shabash
    pehly 1 tha ab 2 air bag ho gai han
    Lo ji huzaifaa is a Chamcha of rollonbgmama
    now he is trying to defend him
    u guys r funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
    Who will certify that it's not abused JDM?? . Auction sheets reverse meter are done in blink of an eye.. who will give a guarantee..?? No one.. You need to visit the port and see the cars.. majority of them get refurbishment before they reach showrooms.. I m not expert but this is what I always hear.






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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    Lo ji huzaifaa is a Chamcha of rollonbgmama
    now he is trying to defend him
    u guys r funny
    omg not only vitz but owner is used abused as well
    chill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    seems like a guy who spent ALL his money on buying the car but has no money for insurance or even repairs.

    same sort of people who want to buy used junkyard sensors and parts to keep their cars in "tip taap shaep" - bhai air bag ki dulhan bananee hai

    bhaijaan resale kaise hogee phattay howea dashbord se?
    Sir pakistan mei sub chalta hai, log to 1960's ki cars bhi chala rahe hain, even with no lights + windows + dead engines running on Engine OIL (Blue Smoke).
    as long as we r in pakistan sub theek hai
    2 years back i worked on a project for "Toyota Capital Motors I-9 Islamabad" that was to reset the Air BAG Modules,
    as u know after accident Air bag ECU saves the crash data in EEPROM & locks itself, & company cant afford to replace the entire Airbag ECU so they want someone to reset it for reuse.
    same is the case with Engine ECUs equipped with immobilizer.
    when the biggest automotive manufacturer is doing such stupid things then what else u can expect??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    I actually had full insurance in Pakistan for my cars - paid me a no. of times and I dont give a damn about jenyan paint.
    simply yes, A car is meant for Traveling, Commuting, Using, Disposing of after a time and getting a new one, Not to be framed
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hameeds01 View Post
    Sir pakistan mei sub chalta hai, log to 1960's ki cars bhi chala rahe hain, even with no lights + windows + dead engines running on Engine OIL (Blue Smoke).
    as long as we r in pakistan sub theek hai
    2 years back i worked on a project for "Toyota Capital Motors I-9 Islamabad" that was to reset the Air BAG Modules,
    as u know after accident Air bag ECU saves the crash data in EEPROM & locks itself, & company cant afford to replace the entire Airbag ECU so they want someone to reset it for reuse.
    same is the case with Engine ECUs equipped with immobilizer.
    when the biggest automotive manufacturer is doing such stupid things then what else u can expect??
    apko zaida cheeken marny ki zarorat ni ha 1 to ap cheekhen bohat marty han
    log 7 lakh ki mehran lety han tab hi bikti ha people will buy, what they like not what HAMEED sahib.
    people know very well what options r available in their respective budget in both pkdm n jdm ,apko zaida roony dhoony ki zarorat ni
    yahan log kaali gari ni lety k kon sambaly ga n they think only fojies can maintain black car
    automatic tranny wali car ni lety k charhai me reh jae gi kharab ho jae gi lol
    n ap gubary me sy hi bahir ni aa rahy
    as u said log kharab engine wali cars chala rahy han to kiya wo log bar bar airbags change karen gy?
    dosron ki neeli peeli batiyan na deakhen ,apki fav vitz jab paaan paaan karti ha zara us jdm pe ghoor karna
    it seems apko b usi sy paaan paaan (cheekhen marny ki adat pari ha)
    loz at airbag airbag airbag
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