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    Default I Need Used Small Car

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    I have Posted one thread before , Needing for a Used Economical Automatic Car or Otherwise Mannual Within 6.50K Budget.
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    I love and Prefer JDM cars but Much Confused because People prefer 660CC small Cars for better Mileage.
    but I think that they doesn't worth that much beyond 800,000 plus Price.
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    I like Vitz But Cant Afford the New Shape walas...Need ur Advice about the Old Shape Models 2000-2004.
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    will it be a Wise decision to spend My Hard earned money on buying old Shape Vitz ...Are there such well Maintained Cars available...??
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    As far As PDM Cars are Concerned I m fed up of 99 Mehran Saloon Plus and wana Upgrade to some good Luxury small Car.
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    I like Alto but its Reviews are not good because ppl say that It has Potohar Engine installed in it and has terrible Mileage and No Good Features same is the Case with Cultus it has Inferior quality....and both of them have v old Engine Corby(Mehran n Alto) not Cultus it has EFI
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    so The Only Good PDM car left is Swift which Is V Expensive. n Purely made for Ayaash people.
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    I m Salaried Person.
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    Now I Have Only Left JDM cars to choose from them.
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    now Advice
    which car I should select in Used ones
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    660 CC's Class Like
    Life,Esse,Wagon R,Mira,Alto,Pino,Zest etc
    They all have expensive Spares and I think them as Carts on Wheels because of their Thiny Engines 660CC.
    may be I m wrong.....
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    Then Comes the 1000CC Class
    Vitz But Old ones, Passo Duet Etc ..
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    I need ur Advice should I go for JDM or PDM cars???
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    must mention that i dnt Like Cuore its Too Small....
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    Should I Buy Alto Cultus Or Vitz 2000-2004
    I m confused.
    I wana use my car for Office or Within City Mostly with Family....
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    Plz Put ur Advices


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    Go for Baleno 1.3, you can get one easily in immaculate condition in your budget.
    Take it easy driving...The life you save may be mine.

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    What about Passo?

    I am getting 2005-2007 Low Millage Clean Passo upto 8.5kMax
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    Passo is 1.0L Powerful and Alternative of Vitz......
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    Quote Originally Posted by arifnoor100 View Post
    What about Passo?

    I am getting 2005-2007 Low Millage Clean Passo upto 8.5kMax
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    Passo is 1.0L Powerful and Alternative of Vitz......
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    People don't know abt these 660s believe me. And yeah, it's not the CC that matter but it's the horse power. Mira has more hp than cultus.

    Passo is good but it's not fuel effucient , will give u 10-12 kmpl in city.
    Mira gives 14-17 kmpl

    Agar aapke dost ko koi shaq hai 660 k power pe, then he should go drive one. Doosron ki batoon mein nhn aayen. Drive one Mira and then cultus, and tell me if u think it's underpowered. Lol

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    Dear Faisal Saeed Bhai...Yes u r Rite Mujay Dosrun ki Baatun mein Nahi ana chaye....Actually Mera Concept Yeh tha k More CC Engine will be more powerful....
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    but tell me BRother If 660CC are Reliable,Fuel Efficient. and Trust worthy then y dnt all people buy 660CC JDM's Who can afford Heavy CC Vehicles? ??

    are they Technically Illiterate or Have no Awareness?
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    I Will InshaaALLAH Buy Mira Thats for sure....Becoz I cant afford Fuel Drinkers....lolzzz..
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    Some One In Pak wheels were abusing 660 CC's Calling them Carts on Wheels....

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    Quote Originally Posted by arifnoor100 View Post
    Dear Faisal Saeed Bhai...Yes u r Rite Mujay Dosrun ki Baatun mein Nahi ana chaye....Actually Mera Concept Yeh tha k More CC Engine will be more powerful....
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    but tell me BRother If 660CC are Reliable,Fuel Efficient. and Trust worthy then y dnt all people buy 660CC JDM's Who can afford Heavy CC Vehicles? ??

    are they Technically Illiterate or Have no Awareness?
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    I Will InshaaALLAH Buy Mira Thats for sure....Becoz I cant afford Fuel Drinkers....lolzzz..
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    Some One In Pak wheels were abusing 660 CC's Calling them Carts on Wheels....
    Brother, try to get a test drive. Where r u from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arifnoor100 View Post
    Dear Faisal Saeed Bhai...Yes u r Rite Mujay Dosrun ki Baatun mein Nahi ana chaye....Actually Mera Concept Yeh tha k More CC Engine will be more powerful....
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    but tell me BRother If 660CC are Reliable,Fuel Efficient. and Trust worthy then y dnt all people buy 660CC JDM's Who can afford Heavy CC Vehicles? ??

    are they Technically Illiterate or Have no Awareness?
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    I Will InshaaALLAH Buy Mira Thats for sure....Becoz I cant afford Fuel Drinkers....lolzzz..
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    Some One In Pak wheels were abusing 660 CC's Calling them Carts on Wheels....
    Today my friend also bought new mira
    2012 model, just like brand new
    4000 driven only
    Cvt tranny

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    @ Faisal Saeed ...

    bhai I live in Lahore Near B.R.B Canal Jallo Area....Mian Aziz Gardens/ Canal Forts Housing Scheme...

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    Purchase Daihatsu Mira (Es) with full options .... Price slightly high but the high price gives its justification in a year..Milleage on long route is 30 Km / Litre as per company manual

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    Dear Mira Es has Idle Engine Option....which is Rare in this Category ...u found it in Hybrid Cars Normally.....Its Expensive Car 11 lakhs Plus ....

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    I Need Mira 4 Doors upto 6.5 -7.0 lakhs...Which Model will come neat n Clean Used ...Max 7.5 lakhs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faisalsaeed11 View Post
    1. Yes, they are reliable
    2. Engine size has nothing to do with reliability.
    3. Yes, chal Paegiii!!! Dekho in worst case scenario, agar engine fail hojae, 25k mein change hojaata hai. If u take a proper care, nothing will happen.
    4. Don't compare pakistani cars with jdm!!! Jdm 660 are more powerful nd reliable.
    5 only problem of jdm 660 is ground clearance

    My recommendation
    1. Mira
    2.vitz

    No cultus
    A silly question but what is ground clearence i am new to all these pkdm jdm stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffye.Memon View Post
    A silly question but what is ground clearence i am new to all these pkdm jdm stuff
    It's not a silly question !!!
    Jdm = Japanese domestic market
    Ground clearance = neeche se gari lagti gai yaani ground clearance kam hai

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    ground clearance is the lowest point between the vehicle and the pavement with all wheels resting on ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faisalsaeed11 View Post
    It's not a silly question !!!
    Jdm = Japanese domestic market
    Ground clearance = neeche se gari lagti gai yaani ground clearance kam hai
    Quote Originally Posted by capsat View Post
    ground clearance is the lowest point between the vehicle and the pavement with all wheels resting on ground
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    Brother don't worry too much. Take a decision, and even if you don't like the car after using it, you can always sell it and get something else. Its not like you're getting married to the car!

    My advice:
    Vitz 1999-2004: Within your budget, very reliable but way old now. Not too economical.
    Esse 2007~ : Around 7 in Isb. Within your budget and very good option for you.
    Mira 2007~ : Around 850 in Isb. Out of Budget

    There are plenty of other 660cc not-so-well-known options but then you'll have parts issues.

    Preferably buy a car which has not been used in Pakistan, and it will be like brand new.

    Lastly, you win some you lose some. You cant get the best of everything in a small car. It will take you from point A to B with ease but it wont be a highway monster. It will feel like a small car. So dont expect miracles.


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    @ Khurram ...Thanks Bro for Explaining and Advising in Detail.
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    Yes Many of My Friends also Suggesting Esse For me...Although its Not Beautiful like Mira but Way Better than Local Alto Cultus etc....
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    Yaar one thing I dnt understand y Local Cars r so Crap...Y Our Local Industry wont make Good Option Cars?
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    Although we r paying Much Prices...even then get nothing except Corby Base models with "NIL OPTION"

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    Primarily because local manufacturers have been operating in an environment of little or no competition for the longest time, so whatever they offered, people had no option but to buy it.

    With the import of Japanese cars, people have now realized what real quality is, and how many advanced luxury and safety features even small cars carry. To top it, their prices are highly competitive.



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    Is Cultus 2005 VXL has EFI engine

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    Keep in mind your daily usage. You said you don't need a gas guzzler and you also wanted to know 660cc's performance on highways.

    This is from personal experience:
    1. 660cc cars are basically small cars meant for within city driving. How much mileage will you get all depends on:
    a) You driving style. Hard accelerations decreases the mileage. Keep in mind that these are small engines so a little increase in acceleration might have a notable affect on your mileage.
    b) Number of Passengers. Again, as the engine is small the mileage fluctuates if there are 4 people on-board instead of 2
    c) Traffic. So how much mileage will you get depends on your route and time of travelling. In peak hours you will get less.
    d) Fuel Consumption. Don't expect more than 14-15km/l. I dont believe those quoting more than 20km/l. Yes a Manual may give you 20 but don't believe that either. My best is 18km/l but manual ones are hard to find. And dont think of installing a cng in them, whether a manual or automatic.
    e) Highway Travelling. Again I repeat brother. These car are not actually meant for highway travelling. Kei cars, all of them, are physically incapable of doing more than 87 miles/hr. That doesnot means you can't travel on highways and these cars won't do good. They may easily take you from Lahore to Gujranwalan or pindi even but consider this; On top gear at 3000rpm you car will be approximately doing 75km/hr. So you may even take the car to 110km/hr but that won't be comfortable driving considering the engine noise because of high rpm. So the question is, How frequent is your highway travelling? If its frequent then 660cc cars are not for you.
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