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    Default Must read before buying new battery (UPS or Car)



    To prolong battery life and get maximum performance must follow these points.

    1. Never Use battery without initial charging.

    2. Never charge the battery soon after putting the electrolyte in it.

    3. Leave the battery at least 25 to 30 minutes after adding electrolyte than connect
    with charger which gives 10% ampere of battery capacity.

    4. Charge the battery till it reaches 15V and, replace the battery caps, look all cells are
    producing bubbles equally.

    5. Every battery have a manufacturing date printed on it........Purchase latest newly
    manufactured one.

    6. Make sure that before adding the electrolyte, battery was completely sealed and air tight.

    7. Now some companies offering already prepared electrolyte, prefer that one, rather
    then prepared by the electrician or battery vender.

    Any query regarding battery will be honestly entertained up to My knowledge Insha Allah






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    @Ishtiaq778

    Need new batteries and need your expert advice bro.

    I've got a 24V, 1000W desi UPS. My usage is 4 ceiling fans, 1 small side fan, 4-6 23W energy savers, 2-3 tube lights, 1 old style Sony TV and 1 PTCL internet modem.

    What would be the best quantity of batteries which could run these things easily for atleast 2 hours and still get charged in an hour BUT also last 2-3 years with proper care and maintenance??? I was thinking to get two 165 or 175 phoenix batteries for this purpose, what do you say???

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post


    To prolong battery life and get maximum performance must follow these points.

    1. Never Use battery without initial charging.

    2. Never charge the battery soon after putting the electrolyte in it.

    3. Leave the battery at least 25 to 30 minutes after adding electrolyte than connect
    with charger which gives 10% ampere of battery capacity.

    4. Charge the battery till it reaches 15V and, replace the battery caps, look all cells are
    producing bubbles equally.

    5. Every battery have a manufacturing date printed on it........Purchase latest newly
    manufactured one.

    6. Make sure that before adding the electrolyte, battery was completely sealed and air tight.

    7. Now some companies offering already prepared electrolyte, prefer that one, rather
    then prepared by the electrician or battery vender.

    Any query regarding battery will be honestly entertained up to My knowledge Insha Allah



    Bro reply to my queries please, need to make the purchase soon.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstopabl3 View Post
    @Ishtiaq778

    Need new batteries and need your expert advice bro.

    I've got a 24V, 1000W desi UPS. My usage is 4 ceiling fans, 1 small side fan, 4-6 23W energy savers, 2-3 tube lights, 1 old style Sony TV and 1 PTCL internet modem.

    What would be the best quantity of batteries which could run these things easily for atleast 2 hours and still get charged in an hour BUT also last 2-3 years with proper care and maintenance??? I was thinking to get two 165 or 175 phoenix batteries for this purpose, what do you say???

    Thanks
    Phoenix UGS 175 is excellent choice for you dear.

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    1000 watt load running continuousely will take 41A from each battery In one hour. Ugs175 have 130 A. It means u can run 1000 load upto 3 hours.

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    dont use tube lites on ups....use energy savers instead .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    dont use tube lites on ups....use energy savers instead .
    don't use either, use led or smd . my brother bought an led bulb, it's glass broke during transport, no problem, i took off what was left of the glass and installed it as is, no filament no gas no problem. I picked it out of the trash basket

    it was a 6watt bulb but light was very bright
    haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    Phoenix UGS 175 is excellent choice for you dear.
    So it will easily cater my needs and run easily 2-3 hours during heavy load-shedding??? And will they last 2-3 years with proper maintenance of UPS and water level???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    1000 watt load running continuousely will take 41A from each battery In one hour. Ugs175 have 130 A. It means u can run 1000 load upto 3 hours.
    Bro you seem to be quite knowledgeable, so I'll ask you a few questions, hopefully you will share your knowledge.


    #1 What's the approx wattage of a ceiling fan???

    #2 And as I've mentioned my requirements, how much load in WATTS do you think I'll put on the UPS with " 4 ceiling fans, 1 small side fan, 4-6 23W energy savers, 2-3 tube lights, 1 old style Sony TV and 1 PTCL internet modem."???

    #3 My UPS is currently charging batteries initially at 12-13A, is this fine and safe??? What advantage or disadvantage of increasing or decreasing this setting???

    #4 My UPS is currently outputting 270-280V when on battery use and batteries last only 1 hour, if I reduce this setting to let's say 250-260V output, would that provide a longer battery time???

    #5 My UPS is currently cutoff at 14.30V, if I increase or decrease this setting what benefit/disadvantage would it do???

    #6 The two batteries I'm currently using used to give 1.5 hours of backup, recently after a 2 hours loadshedding and draining of batteries, the backup is hardly 45 mins. I've checked the electrolyte level and it is fine, and I've checked the voltages and it cutoff at 28.30-28.60V and after a while one battery is stable at 12.60V and the other at 12.38V. And during the last few minutes of backup I've checked both batteries show above 11V but the fans speed too slow, signalling battery juice run out and output shows only 200-210V. So what could be the issue here??? Do I need to ask the battery wala to charge the batteries fully??? They charge 300Rs for this service as you might know.

    Thanks a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    don't use either, use led or smd . my brother bought an led bulb, it's glass broke during transport, no problem, i took off what was left of the glass and installed it as is, no filament no gas no problem. I picked it out of the trash basket

    it was a 6watt bulb but light was very bright
    Downside of LED bulb is that they are costly.. I think SMD is good choice as I have one with 12v and its really bright.

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    replied

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    Bro please reply my last post thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by unstopabl3 View Post
    Bro you seem to be quite knowledgeable, so I'll ask you a few questions, hopefully you will share your knowledge.


    #1 What's the approx wattage of a ceiling fan???

    #2 And as I've mentioned my requirements, how much load in WATTS do you think I'll put on the UPS with " 4 ceiling fans, 1 small side fan, 4-6 23W energy savers, 2-3 tube lights, 1 old style Sony TV and 1 PTCL internet modem."???

    #3 My UPS is currently charging batteries initially at 12-13A, is this fine and safe??? What advantage or disadvantage of increasing or decreasing this setting???

    #4 My UPS is currently outputting 270-280V when on battery use and batteries last only 1 hour, if I reduce this setting to let's say 250-260V output, would that provide a longer battery time???

    #5 My UPS is currently cutoff at 14.30V, if I increase or decrease this setting what benefit/disadvantage would it do???

    #6 The two batteries I'm currently using used to give 1.5 hours of backup, recently after a 2 hours loadshedding and draining of batteries, the backup is hardly 45 mins. I've checked the electrolyte level and it is fine, and I've checked the voltages and it cutoff at 28.30-28.60V and after a while one battery is stable at 12.60V and the other at 12.38V. And during the last few minutes of backup I've checked both batteries show above 11V but the fans speed too slow, signalling battery juice run out and output shows only 200-210V. So what could be the issue here??? Do I need to ask the battery wala to charge the batteries fully??? They charge 300Rs for this service as you might know.

    Thanks a lot!
    ceiling fan is of 100watt.
    your total load is aproximately 850 Watt.
    14.3 cut off is fine
    Charging rate for 175 is 13A to 15A fine.

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    Upload pic of your ups with all parts visibility.

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    @Ishtiaq778 what amp/hr rating does an Osaka 170NS has??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasim625 View Post
    @Ishtiaq778 what amp/hr rating does an Osaka 170NS has??
    13A is best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    13A is best
    No the amp/hr capacity of this model of osaka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasim625 View Post
    No the amp/hr capacity of this model of osaka?
    Its capacity is 120amp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    Its capacity is 120amp
    Ok shukrya sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasirjavaid View Post
    Downside of LED bulb is that they are costly.. I think SMD is good choice as I have one with 12v and its really bright.
    I only know about energy savers, what are these LED bulbs and SMD and how much they cost???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    ceiling fan is of 100watt.
    your total load is aproximately 850 Watt.
    14.3 cut off is fine
    Charging rate for 175 is 13A to 15A fine.
    Thanks bro, if I get the USG 175 two batteries, with my usage of approx 850 Watts, how many hours will the batteries give me on loadshedding??? And if I put the charge at 13.5A how long will it take to fully charge these fully discharged batteries???

    Thanks

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