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    Salam,

    I need suggestion for choosing the BEST car from the following:

    1) Honda Civic Reborn 2008
    Civic 08 Accord CL7 or Mark II ? -1480219

    2) Honda Accord CL7 2003
    Civic 08 Accord CL7 or Mark II ? -1480224


    3) Toyota Mark II Grande 2003
    Civic 08 Accord CL7 or Mark II ? -1480223

    Reference pics from the Pakwheels For sale section.

    Now come to the point, my budget is 1400k max, car i need is for family use, car will be used for a max of 10kms per day.
    So, i want to know what will be the best buy in this budget ?
    What are the fuel average of these cars ?
    Maintenance etc ? (what type of issues can arise ?)

    My priorities:
    1) CL7
    2) Mark II
    3) Civic

    Personally im interested in CL7 but i heard the maintenance is very high so i request from the experts and OWNERS to give their humble suggestions that what are the pros and cons of these 3.

    Thanks in advance.


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    why no cl8 it 4x4

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    why no cl8 it 4x4
    there are very few cl-8 in Pakistan and being awd would consume more fuel

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    Quote Originally Posted by husnainkhan View Post
    Hmm true but you never know when a major issue arises..
    a major issue can happen in new cars aswell or in imported cars having high grades so should we stop buying cars ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    there are very few cl-8 in Pakistan and being awd would consume more fuel
    if a guy uses only front wheel drive it will give good avg the 4x4 will help if the car stuck some where the or the needed more power in any situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    if a guy uses only front wheel drive it will give good avg the 4x4 will help if the car stuck some where the or the needed more power in any situation
    true but you wont get stuck every now and then

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    if your total drive would be 10 kms/day then it would be disastrous for any car - it will be a cold run car which falls under "severe" usage maintenance.

    Make sure you get a vehicle that can be serviced efficiently and not tie you up hunting for parts in scrapyards.
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    according to my personal experience reborn is much more fuel thirsty then a cl7

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuhammadMusa View Post
    according to my personal experience reborn is much more fuel thirsty then a cl7

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    Not at all. My 8th gen civic manual giving me 11km/l with full time AC. Normal + Hard foot locally (Islamabad) and 14-16km/l with AC on motorway. Though prosmatec is bit heavier in fuel but still it manages to do 9-10km/l with AC.
    @OP go for civic eyes closed.

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    CL7,8 and 9 all have the same average so you may consider all of them.
    Accords are great cars. They won't ask for too much maintenance provided you do not buy an abused car.
    Major issues with these cars are electronic and they cost a lot. Make sure the wiring has not been messed up.
    Mark II is a lovely car. A rare rwd in these days. It is comfortable and being a Toyota, very tough and reliable too. Fuel avg is a bit better than accord.
    I would suggest to decide between these two.
    If I were given the choice, I would go for mark ii

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuhammadMusa View Post
    according to my personal experience reborn is much more fuel thirsty then a cl7

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    bhai konsi reborn chalayi ha apne ? jo mein chalata hoon wo toh local mein 10 aur highway pe 14 araam se deti ha. These figures are buch better than a cl7.

    And all : please dont misguide him. Xulifqar bhai have said the best thing. Dont buy a car for which you would have to hunt parts in a scrapyard in future.
    None of the brave deserve fair....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    a major issue can happen in new cars aswell or in imported cars having high grades so should we stop buying cars ?
    Bro there is always a difference in probablity between a car that is known for being a bit sensitive than/amongst a newer or jdm car which MAY give some trouble. but Imo accord is a bit sensitive, I guess I was the craziest person in Karachi for Accord but then heard about its spares and that if it gets some critical issues then theres a chance that the mechanic can even ruin it up further, infact my friend owned one, he loved the comfort drive and all but in the end its engine got some issues to which he showed to good mechanic and cutting to short, he had to swap the engine if he had to keep the car further, engine ke sensors waghera sab ulta seedha hogaya tha, he ended up selling at 9.5 I guess (it was 9 something, my mind has it as 9.5) so since that time I dont recommend it to people unless somebody is buying from some friend or relative that is a car lover and has maintained it like his wife lol.

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    speaking of "unique cars" I owned a VW Golf - it was a wonderful car for me - 20-22 km/lit come rain, shine, hell - no problems at all. 50 litres diesel for 1000 kms every single time.

    there was a little problem with owning it - its spare parts are "naa paed" in Pakistan - I had a bit of storage filled with its parts, and would buy body parts from around Pakistan, it was a very simple mechanical car but even being so so so simple - a general mechanic in Pakistan cannot set its timing belt as there are no marks on the engine - it requires a tool to lock the camshaft. - One mistake can ruin the entire engine.

    even installing the clutch plate was a bit weird - axles were like benz - lobro joints inboard and regular rzeppa joints outboard, one mistake with the lobro and your joint is toast.


    My point is that dont get yourself into a situation where you cannot get yourself out of without losing money - problems like HVAC module in the accord CL7 or automatic transmission rebuild are extremely expensive if you want to have 100% reliable and correct repairs.
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    Cl7/9 both are nice cars. If u drive with light foot it easily gives you 9-10 km/l average in city.
    Maintenance costs same as civic, parts are easily available, Infact these japanese versions are real workhorses

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    2 completely different opinions, confused once again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    is it true that cl9 have better mileage than cl7
    I don't think so.
    what I have experienced about fuel consumption of accord. It depends a lot on your tyre size.
    Because CL7 comes with stock tyre size 195/65R15 and I have seen people using 235/40R17
    so any thing between these two sizes are widely used with accord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spano View Post
    I don't think so.
    what I have experienced about fuel consumption of accord. It depends a lot on your tyre size.
    Because CL7 comes with stock tyre size 195/65R15 and I have seen people using 235/40R17
    so any thing between these two sizes are widely used with accord
    How come a 400cc larger engine give the better fuel economy on the same weight car
    I don't agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by saadkhangul View Post
    bhai konsi reborn chalayi ha apne ? jo mein chalata hoon wo toh local mein 10 aur highway pe 14 araam se deti ha. These figures are buch better than a cl7.

    And all : please dont misguide him. Xulifqar bhai have said the best thing. Dont buy a car for which you would have to hunt parts in a scrapyard in future.
    I have owned an 07 oriel prosmatec and a 2004 cl 7. I felt accord was much more comfortable and fuel efficient then civic

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    i gave u my opinion too if u remember ...

    buy non abused car & pre well maintained ... then its on u .. how u drive and tc of it ..
    u drive reckless .. it will give u some mechanical part issue .. if u drive on high RPM .. more fuel ... etc

    but regular maintenance is mostly for Oil, filters, brake pads & thats affordable by all.

    Drive Some Luxury car ..
    Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall.
    Torque is how far you take the wall with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spano View Post
    How come a 400cc larger engine give the better fuel economy on the same weight car
    I don't agree
    if a smaller engine pulling bigger body It will have to work hard have you never seen ppl swaping 1000cc engine in 660cc to get better mileage

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    If you want a trouble free car buy a cl8 swap a 2jz with supra transmission u would able to find parts eaislyit would be economical,powerful and comfortable

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