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    Question MIRA ES vs Move Eco Idle

    Hello all,

    i have done my homework for JDM cars, MIRA ES specifically, and i fall in love with this car, but some how its not in my budget which is 9-9.5. i surveyed quite a few times and most of the MIRA ES which are in my range are mostly full body paint and probably totaled car.
    I found a Daihatsu Move in my range full options with ECO idle, the only thing worries me about its mileage i received some mixed comments on its mileage, some say its worst than PDM cars, some claimed it to be same as MIRA ES.

    Can anyone confirm the mileage for Move? and which car should i opt for, Move 2012 full option with ECO idle, or try to find some MIRA ES in my range.

    P.s its going to be my first car and i'm planning to keep it for good 5 years.

    Urgently need some advice please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    I am not telling you i am telling the above guy Faisal the reason's why i said 660's r useless in khi and i am asking u if im wrong or right as u also have a great experience about these cars
    Underpowered nahi hain cars with CVT specially mira and heating issue!
    I mean none of relatives faced that issue even in the hottest heat of Sun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    Underpowered nahi hain cars with CVT specially mira and heating issue!
    I mean none of relatives faced that issue even in the hottest heat of Sun!
    Yar mira is slower that alto and Cvt gains speed gradually, trust me it really hurts when black XLI show there horrible dippers and over take u , faced it many times,
    and heat up issue doesn't affect the performance of the car but if u continuosly drive it for a long time the engine temp tends to rise which results in bad A.C performance
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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Yar mira is slower that alto and Cvt gains speed gradually, trust me it really hurts when black XLI show there horrible dippers and over take u , faced it many times,
    and heat up issue doesn't affect the performance of the car but if u continuosly drive it for a long time the engine temp tends to rise which results in bad A.C performance
    check out this blog
    Five Reasons to prefer Japanese Suzuki Alto over Daihatsu Mira | PakWheels Blog
    I really hate my Pino !
    Most underpowered car ever used!
    Can't climb my home ramp in reverse even
    And there is one rule
    "Either A/C will work or either car will run"
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    I really hate my Pino !
    Most underpowered car ever used!
    Can't climb my home ramp in reverse even
    And there is one rule
    "Either A/C will work or either car will run"
    Better get your car checked. Alto is no way underpowered . I love the drive and transmission of alto. The gear shift is so smooth and avg is better than mira es ( talking about 2010+ model) manual is also awesome
    If I have a choice of buying mira es and alto I would pick alto anytime
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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Better get your car checked. Alto is no way underpowered . I love the drive and transmission of alto. The gear shift is so smooth and avg is better than mira es ( talking about 2010+ model) manual is also awesome
    If I have a choice of buying mira es and alto I would pick alto anytime
    I am talking about 2009 or less model!
    New engine and tranny is much efficient!
    I've driven many alto's! All have same problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    I am talking about 2009 or less model!
    New engine and tranny is much efficient!
    I've driven many alto's! All have same problem!
    i am talking about the new one, this shape
    MIRA ES vs Move Eco Idle -1484722
    but the old shape isn't bad too, i taked out the hell of the old shape and even after all the roughness it faced, it started on half self and was ready to bear any type of conditions, it is more stronger than alto
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    btw thats my ex alto, 2010 model 4 grade
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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Merey pyarey bareey bhai, mein ne sirf mira drive hi nhi ki, rakhi bhi hai, aur sirf ek nhi rakhi 4 rakhi hai including Mira E;S aur sirf mira hi nhi aur jdms bhi rakhi hain.
    i have kept
    1.Suzuki Alto 2007 Manual Jdm,
    2 Suzuki Alto 2010 auto jdm
    3.D.Mira 2007 Auto
    3.D.Mira 2012 2 Door CVT
    4.D.Mira 2008 dubai version CVT
    5.D.Mira 2008 Auto
    6.D.Mira E;S 2011
    7.Nissan Otti
    8.Toyota Vitz 2006
    9.Toyota Vitz 2007
    10.Toyota Vitz 2008
    If u don't believe me, ask any member out here,, i am not new here and every one knows me and my cars very well, ( I am not a dealer but have a habbit of trying diff cars)
    Why i said 660's r useless in khi, have a look at the below points, which would also be helpful for other people as well
    1.660's r very underpowered especially auto and in khi u can not drive at a constant speed of 40km/h
    2.Mira gets hotter more than the other 660's, if u r standing on a road and touch the bonnet of a mira and any other car, u will feel diff.( also mentioned on an official pw blog)
    3.due to the heating issue above the A.C doesn't perform well when idle, but performs good when the car is moving on a good speed.
    4.Being underpowered u push the pedal hard which results in bad economy.
    5.If any issue arises u r screwed.
    6.Do u know the price of a Side mirror of Mira E;S, only 25k for one side and not pair, What u just lost a front small plastic piece, dont worry its only for 3.5k
    7.Oh so u need a plastic piece, just wait for 20 days to import it.
    8.My Car met a small hit and the bumper is hit and light broken and the Airbags r out, how much would the repair cost, 50k+ and u would be covering the steering by a piece of leather and if u don't wanna do that, get ready to spend another 1 lac for the airbags,
    7.in khi traffic is so much which results in bad avg.
    Iv'e got a dozen more points but my hand hurts and i am not in the mood of writing more,
    i hope u got my point @huzaifa.haroon
    Hahah, relax brother.
    I have a couple of 660's too, one XLI and Civic.
    Firstly, Mira has an awesome pickup, acceleration and fuel average.
    My Mira gives 15kmpl in Khi with AC, and 20kmpl on highways with AC.
    There is no heating issue whatsoever, I have driven the car on highway at 51c from Khi to Larkana that's like 500 kms, and guess what, the car performed better than many XLI taxis as Mira had better brakes.
    Plus these dinkies have better horse power.

    I am talking about the category of cars in .7 - 1 million, the best choice is obviously the 660's. Local third class, Cultus, alto and Mehran se to behter hain. Swift is 1.2-1.3 million, wagonR is also expensive. Baaki cars are mostly useless because they are really old. even if you buy XLI or GLI 2008, it costs 1.1-1.2 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Merey pyarey bareey bhai, mein ne sirf mira drive hi nhi ki, rakhi bhi hai, aur sirf ek nhi rakhi 4 rakhi hai including Mira E;S aur sirf mira hi nhi aur jdms bhi rakhi hain.
    i have kept
    1.Suzuki Alto 2007 Manual Jdm,
    2 Suzuki Alto 2010 auto jdm
    3.D.Mira 2007 Auto
    3.D.Mira 2012 2 Door CVT
    4.D.Mira 2008 dubai version CVT
    5.D.Mira 2008 Auto
    6.D.Mira E;S 2011
    7.Nissan Otti
    8.Toyota Vitz 2006
    9.Toyota Vitz 2007
    10.Toyota Vitz 2008
    If u don't believe me, ask any member out here,, i am not new here and every one knows me and my cars very well, ( I am not a dealer but have a habbit of trying diff cars)
    Why i said 660's r useless in khi, have a look at the below points, which would also be helpful for other people as well
    1.660's r very underpowered especially auto and in khi u can not drive at a constant speed of 40km/h
    2.Mira gets hotter more than the other 660's, if u r standing on a road and touch the bonnet of a mira and any other car, u will feel diff.( also mentioned on an official pw blog)
    3.due to the heating issue above the A.C doesn't perform well when idle, but performs good when the car is moving on a good speed.
    4.Being underpowered u push the pedal hard which results in bad economy.
    5.If any issue arises u r screwed.
    6.Do u know the price of a Side mirror of Mira E;S, only 25k for one side and not pair, What u just lost a front small plastic piece, dont worry its only for 3.5k
    7.Oh so u need a plastic piece, just wait for 20 days to import it.
    8.My Car met a small hit and the bumper is hit and light broken and the Airbags r out, how much would the repair cost, 50k+ and u would be covering the steering by a piece of leather and if u don't wanna do that, get ready to spend another 1 lac for the airbags,
    7.in khi traffic is so much which results in bad avg.
    Iv'e got a dozen more points but my hand hurts and i am not in the mood of writing more,
    i hope u got my point @huzaifa.haroon
    And yes, parts are expensive, but aap kiya karsakte ho, you have to let go a few things. Mehran lele banda 800 rps Mein windscreen lagjaegi, par comfort to 0 hoga. AC ko bhuladen and heating to Tauba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faisalsaeed11 View Post
    Hahah, relax brother.
    I have a couple of 660's too, one XLI and Civic.
    Firstly, Mira has an awesome pickup, acceleration and fuel average.
    My Mira gives 15kmpl in Khi with AC, and 20kmpl on highways with AC.
    There is no heating issue whatsoever, I have driven the car on highway at 51c from Khi to Larkana that's like 500 kms, and guess what, the car performed better than many XLI taxis as Mira had better brakes.
    Plus these dinkies have better horse power.

    I am talking about the category of cars in .7 - 1 million, the best choice is obviously the 660's. Local third class, Cultus, alto and Mehran se to behter hain. Swift is 1.2-1.3 million, wagonR is also expensive. Baaki cars are mostly useless because they are really old. even if you buy XLI or GLI 2008, it costs 1.1-1.2 million.
    Oh Damn, im sorry i was talking about Mira E;S , it is underpowered because of the eco system,
    The simple one indeed has better pick
    The heating issue doesn't bother you and u can never feel it, especially when driving wind pressure keeps it cool no matter if u drive it for the whole day, it arises when the car is idle the ac performance comes down
    660's r best in the range of 7-8 only, not above that, if i would have a range of 7-8 i would surely go for a 660, alto,cuore, mehran,cultus are $hit infront of jdms,8-10 mein passo/Vitz best hai aur us se above Swift aur City
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faisalsaeed11 View Post
    And yes, parts are expensive, but aap kiya karsakte ho, you have to let go a few things. Mehran lele banda 800 rps Mein windscreen lagjaegi, par comfort to 0 hoga. AC ko bhuladen and heating to Tauba.
    Parts r expensive but main problem is that they aren't easily available, Mehran indeed has 0 comfort,
    heard that the New Euro II is better and Avg is around 17-18 and A.C has improved,haven't tested it though
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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Oh Damn, im sorry i was talking about Mira E;S , it is underpowered because of the eco system,
    The simple one indeed has better pick
    The heating issue doesn't bother you and u can never feel it, especially when driving wind pressure keeps it cool no matter if u drive it for the whole day, it arises when the car is idle the ac performance comes down
    660's r best in the range of 7-8 only, not above that, if i would have a range of 7-8 i would surely go for a 660, alto,cuore, mehran,cultus are $hit infront of jdms,8-10 mein passo/Vitz best hai aur us se above Swift aur City
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    Quote Originally Posted by razayousfani View Post
    Muradi bhai Assalam-o-Alekum
    Yar aik daihatsu move 2011 mil rahi hai janne wale se. Full option ke sath black color . Wo kehta hai gari genuine hai lekin scratches kI waja se mujhy shower kaewani parhi aur roof or bonet genuine hein. 825 mein De raha hai meri range bhi max 8 tak hai kia karoon aik aur hai nissan otti 840 unregistered please help koa karoon.
    Walaikum Assalam.
    Bro 2011 Fully Showered Move ke buht ziyada hai. Worth 775k max. Nissan Otti bhi achi gari hai lekin move ziyada behtr hai is se.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razayousfani View Post
    Muradi bhai Assalam-o-Alekum
    Yar aik daihatsu move 2011 mil rahi hai janne wale se. Full option ke sath black color . Wo kehta hai gari genuine hai lekin scratches kI waja se mujhy shower kaewani parhi aur roof or bonet genuine hein. 825 mein De raha hai meri range bhi max 8 tak hai kia karoon aik aur hai nissan otti 840 unregistered please help koa karoon.
    Thagg raha hay
    Puri showered scratches ki wajah se nahi major accidnet ki wajah se
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    Thagg raha hay
    Puri showered scratches ki wajah se nahi major accidnet ki wajah se
    Bonnet nahn hai showered. Kia price honi chahiye is ki
    aur 2015 ki registered hai

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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Walaikum Assalam.
    Bro 2011 Fully Showered Move ke buht ziyada hai. Worth 775k max. Nissan Otti bhi achi gari hai lekin move ziyada behtr hai is se.
    Baat karke dekhoonga asal mein meri mehran bhi niklega showroom wale 260 laga rahe hein is ne 3 se 350 ka kaha hai

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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Walaikum Assalam.
    Bro 2011 Fully Showered Move ke buht ziyada hai. Worth 775k max. Nissan Otti bhi achi gari hai lekin move ziyada behtr hai is se.
    Acha ye gari sahi to hogi na I mean move prob to nahn karti na log kehte hein drive or grip achi bahn sirf mira hi achi hai. Move ki resale nahn hai etc....Ye move 15 ki registered bhi hai

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    Quote Originally Posted by razayousfani View Post
    Acha ye gari sahi to hogi na I mean move prob to nahn karti na log kehte hein drive or grip achi bahn sirf mira hi achi hai. Move ki resale nahn hai etc....Ye move 15 ki registered bhi hai
    800k , bro, visit my thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by razayousfani View Post
    Acha ye gari sahi to hogi na I mean move prob to nahn karti na log kehte hein drive or grip achi bahn sirf mira hi achi hai. Move ki resale nahn hai etc....Ye move 15 ki registered bhi hai

    Brother u are getting yourself in a huge trouble by going into this deal...

    Better to avoid it...

    Previously u were on right track, save some bucks and go for Pkdm WR, or JDM alto with verified auction sheet...

    Rest you can see the huzaifa's thread "Accidented JDMs Exposed" and have an idea of JDMs without auction sheet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by razayousfani View Post
    Acha ye gari sahi to hogi na I mean move prob to nahn karti na log kehte hein drive or grip achi bahn sirf mira hi achi hai. Move ki resale nahn hai etc....Ye move 15 ki registered bhi hai
    Bro Resale Move ki Zero hai, do keep this in mind. If resale is your concern get a Mira or a Jdm Alto
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