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    Default a really big misconception

    AOA I have encountered many ppl saying suzuki swift is a very good car I personally like swift but when a some person say suzuki liana being a bad car even after share same engine,axle,suspention,brake in short every physical performance part and say that suzuki liana have swift use same engine but different head so I visit shershah to physically inspect engine as suzuki swift and liana have different plastic cover/airfilter cover it was easy to differenciate between them I inspected some head of swift and liana both were exactly the same then I told the whole to a shop owner and then the shop owner told me full story he told be there no difference in both infact some imported suzuki aerios engine have a different plastic cover/airfilter cover and it just a plastic cover/airfilter cover difference in both engine so I researched on internet and found the shop owner was right I am attaching a pic of suzuki aerio engine bay for reference

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdrifter View Post
    hahaaha
    I know jdms are just better
    if I am plaing to keep alto mine for a long time then might switch to non abs jdm alto brake booster and ventilated disks
    j have tested brakes of a 06 alto they were non abs the standard edition but to my surprise that car was amazing
    same thing with nissan otti
    I mean what japanese guys do
    swift was good too till 11 after that quality dropped

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    they sure do amaze, these jdm 660's r so spacious from front and back, our pkdms even bigger in length still dont have much space, and how they manage to make such cars,
    i too have kept otti, a good car but fuel thirsty
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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    come to my home and have a pleasure of drive a liana on FF cng it totally a pleasure to drive liana on FF cng and about poor brake I all ready said shift to 15" alloy and you will know what the braking power of suzuki liana LXI which is off course due to ABS I have never seen a LXI owner complaining about break issue I my self a liana LXI owner and I found the break better tha xli,city only 1.3l car which have better break than liana is lancer
    Abs has nothing to do with braking power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    they sure do amaze, these jdm 660's r so spacious from front and back, our pkdms even bigger in length still dont have much space, and how they manage to make such cars,
    i too have kept otti, a good car but fuel thirsty
    one my friend has is a manual otti and man that thing is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by dms664 View Post
    Abs has nothing to do with braking power.

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    Exactly, ABS just aids in emergency braking and not much useful in every day driving
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    Liana has good brakes, never disappoint me. Even ABS performance is really good when every they needed.
    Boy Badnam hua LIANA tery liya

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdrifter View Post
    nope ain't gona come to ur home u live far dar away
    I know brakes of suzuki and one linan I dorve had 15s and yokohama tires
    brake was not bad at stopping but balance was off it would not stop in a staright line

    I took it to 60 and brake it was nearly 50 degrees off to right
    also coils went nutts on it we had to put corolla coils to it
    it was an alterd car but when resale came
    it was pakred at a show room for 4 months and no one wanted it
    this is peshawa babay

    so sir if u know that much and comparing it with swift every day new thread
    make a single thread where liana owners xan share problema and u know if u can help them
    experience tips and information on liana



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    bro go through whole thread I never compared liana with swift and I was the guy saying swift is better second I have already made a thread name liana tips maintenance thread and I am pretty the car would have toyota indus corola engine I have seen such swap the engine make suspension unstable don't know why

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    Quote Originally Posted by dms664 View Post
    Abs has nothing to do with braking power.
    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Exactly, ABS just aids in emergency braking and not much useful in every day driving
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    LOL bro if a car is not able to maintain traction on road while breaking then how on earth will stop it read THIS u will understand how ABS stops car faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    bro go through whole thread I never compared liana with swift and I was the guy saying swift is better second I have already made a thread name liana tips maintenance thread and I am pretty the car would have toyota indus corola engine I have seen such swap the engine make suspension unstable don't know why
    nope it has stock m13
    still is running with toyota coils just coils were toyota else it was 3s mainted car

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdrifter View Post
    nope it has stock m13
    still is running with toyota coils just coils were toyota else it was 3s mainted car

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    was it a rxi

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    LOL bro if a car is not able to maintain traction on road while breaking then how on earth will stop it read this u will understand how ABS stops car faster
    ABS*uses wheel speed sensors to determine if one or more wheels are trying to lock up during braking. If a wheel tries to lock up, a series of hydraulic valves limit or reduce the braking on that wheel. This prevents skidding and allows you to maintain steering control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    ABS*uses wheel speed sensors to determine if one or more wheels are trying to lock up during braking. If a wheel tries to lock up, a series of hydraulic valves limit or reduce the braking on that wheel. This prevents skidding and allows you to maintain steering control.
    abs don't let the wheel stop that make the tire grip the road that the reason abs stops a car faster if a car have good breaking powe but tires are not stick to road it will skid and will require more area to stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdrifter View Post
    nope it has stock m13
    still is running with toyota coils just coils were toyota else it was 3s mainted car

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    you mean Liana fitted with Corolla's ignition coils? does they work fine??

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    was it a rxi
    i think not it was a lxi as i remember abs system init
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    Quote Originally Posted by abid110 View Post
    you mean Liana fitted with Corolla's ignition coils? does they work fine??
    yeah it was fine even better then before on CNG
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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    LOL bro if a car is not able to maintain traction on road while breaking then how on earth will stop it read this u will understand how ABS stops car faster
    According to my understanding, ABS just gives u the flexibility to steer left n right to avoid collision under hard emergency braking.
    Please make me wise how abs increase braking power?
    @Xulfiqar sir step in please

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    Quote Originally Posted by abid110 View Post
    you mean Liana fitted with Corolla's ignition coils? does they work fine??
    it a desi jugar and harmfull for ecu as the coil are not design for waste sprak tecnology

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    Quote Originally Posted by dms664 View Post
    According to my understanding, ABS just gives u the flexibility to steer left n right to avoid collision under hard emergency braking.
    Please make me wise how abs increase braking power?
    @Xulfiqar sir step in please

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    I have already quoted the thing above and will quote it again abs does not let the tire stop every one know's that and because of this tire also stick to road that don't skid but if a car have better breaking power but no ABS it will jam the wheel and they will not be able to grip the road until the most of the energy which is still pushing the vehical forward is not reduced to a limit but on ABS tire will grip the road and will reduce the breaking distance you can say it works something like traction control which avoids wheel spin and let the tire grip the road in order to get a good launch without wasting engine power

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdrifter View Post
    yeah it was fine even better then before on CNG
    he could have simply used liana original coil with irridium plug

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdrifter View Post
    i think not it was a lxi as i remember abs system init
    the car would have misaligned axles this problem can be occur in any car

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    he could have simply used liana original coil with irridium plug
    well those cost a bummer
    and toyota coils were 1500 a piece

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