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    Salam please help me to find best car for my use. Previously i owned mehran now i want to purchase car around 11 Lac. Which is best cultus or any Japanese??? i lives in rural area. Roads are not great too


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    definition of 'Best' depends upon your needs, likes/dislikes and priorities. Considering the rural area, Cultus seems to be a better option. Japnese cars might have issues in terms of mechanics, spare parts etc.

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    Japanesse: strong built than pkdm cultus or any other car + comfort + luxury + smooth drive + expensive spares than pkdm.

    Pkdm(cultus): inexpensive parts+easily available parts + easily technical assistance available at almost everywhere in Pakistan + built like trash-cans when compared to strong japanesse cars.

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    If u wil drive in rural areas than go for cultus coz it wil gv u ease to find parts, mechanics n maintenance stuff. Bt if ur priority is comfort than go for gud vitz.

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    If i were u i would have went for Swift without a single doubt
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    Buy Cultus, it will be light on your pocket, easy to maintain, and time saving. Its also an economical car. Even if you make it a trash, it will maintain its resale value in the market. But never ever expect any LUXURY from this car. If you want a little bit luxury then go for SWIFT.

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    anything is better than cultus

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustaad_007 View Post
    Buy Cultus, it will be light on your pocket, easy to maintain, and time saving. Its also an economical car. Even if you make it a trash, it will maintain its resale value in the market. But never ever expect any LUXURY from this car. If you want a little bit luxury then go for SWIFT.
    I would not consider swift a luxury but it a semi sport car but don't get the sport word very serious

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    11 lacks is a good budget bro. As you have two options in mind, I won't distract you much.

    I- Cultus:
    -Cheap build quality=inexpensive low quality spare parts.
    -Old school engine=Well understood by local ustaads, less hp for more cc, reliable and time tested engine.
    -15 years old shape=No safety features, lacks basic things such as ABS, airbags, can prove fatal sometimes due to low quality material used for the body.
    -Excellent resale value=Cultus is a well received car in the market. It won't be hard to sell it in a day if you ever need urgent cash.
    -End of production cycle=Rumours are that PS is going to halt the production of cultus from 2016 and will introduce an alternative soon, so you would have to go for the cheap quality fake spare parts after the production ends, which can be a serious issue as those parts don't last for more than six months in most cases, same reason for the decline of Alto and Coure on our roads. There is literally no quality check for the aftermarket spares, and anyone can sell you a life threatening part for your car at an attractive price.
    -Practical= It's periodic maintenance is dirt cheap and it gives an excellent mileage on CNG which is the preferred fuel of our local populace but it will not last long as the country is already facing a shortage of gas reserves and it would be ethically wrong to indulge in the exploitation of our natural reserves. It's as good as a 660 JDM on petrol if you get a euro-II, but with time the mileage will decrease to a notable level as the engine start burning the factory seals and gets in the hands of your trusted Ustaad. Not even the dealership can bring back the mileage you'd get from the first 5000km back and after 20,000km it'd be more or less same as the older EFI version.
    -Value for money=The company is literally trying to kill it's own market with a far better counterpart in the shape of the infamous Wagon-R.
    But nothing beats the mentality of Pakistanis, on one hand they need a practical daily runner hatchback and on the other hand they need a car with the looks of a Lamborghini Murcielago. Wagon-R is cheaper and far better with an extremely fuel efficient engine under the hood and a huge interior space, and in my opinion, the shape is actually more of a family car. I guess Paki Parents should stop listening to their teenage sons who expect to hook up with some Chika and take her out in a sporty cultus instead of saving his parents money and his time that he could spend with his books and then get a real sports car and hook up with some real ladies. I'm still in my teenage and I know we are all stupid.

    II-JDM:
    -Build quality=Exceptional
    -Fuel efficiency=Exceptional
    -Maintenance=Periodic maintenance is cheap but other problems are a bit tacky to handle, there's only a hand full of mechanics who can understand their mechanism.
    -Spare Parts=High quality original Parts as no one can make those futuristic parts here in Pakistan. But they're extremely expensive.
    -Resale=Resale is actually better than many local cars, especially in Big cities as people prefer them over PKDMs these days.
    -Practicality= their practicality is more of a question mark these days as they cost a lot even on a small problem, like the side mirrors of a 1000cc cost more than those of a New civic.
    -Design=Some people consider them ugly, but I think they're beautiful, specially a few of 'em.

    The options you have in JDM are:
    -Passo 1000c 2010+
    -Vitz 1000cc 2nd gen, clean
    -Mira 660cc 2012+
    -Alto 660cc 2012+ extremely clean.
    well I won't suggest you the last two as their engines are too small but it your commute is based more on a city drive than they can prove really efficient, specially Mira. But their parts are a hard find compared to Toyota 1000cc 1KR-FE and this specific engine is well understood by the local mechanics due to its long existence in Pakistan. Note that no other car from that segment has been received well in our market.

    ___IMO go for a JDM as they're more reliable and better daily runners compared to if compared to Cultus._____

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzamil_r0cKy View Post
    11 lacks is a good budget bro. As you have two options in mind, I won't distract you much.

    I- Cultus:
    -Cheap build quality=inexpensive low quality spare parts.
    -Old school engine=Well understood by local ustaads, less hp for more cc, reliable and time tested engine.
    -15 years old shape=No safety features, lacks basic things such as ABS, airbags, can prove fatal sometimes due to low quality material used for the body.
    -Excellent resale value=Cultus is a well received car in the market. It won't be hard to sell it in a day if you ever need urgent cash.
    -End of production cycle=Rumours are that PS is going to halt the production of cultus from 2016 and will introduce an alternative soon, so you would have to go for the cheap quality fake spare parts after the production ends, which can be a serious issue as those parts don't last for more than six months in most cases, same reason for the decline of Alto and Coure on our roads. There is literally no quality check for the aftermarket spares, and anyone can sell you a life threatening part for your car at an attractive price.
    -Practical= It's periodic maintenance is dirt cheap and it gives an excellent mileage on CNG which is the preferred fuel of our local populace but it will not last long as the country is already facing a shortage of gas reserves and it would be ethically wrong to indulge in the exploitation of our natural reserves. It's as good as a 660 JDM on petrol if you get a euro-II, but with time the mileage will decrease to a notable level as the engine start burning the factory seals and gets in the hands of your trusted Ustaad. Not even the dealership can bring back the mileage you'd get from the first 5000km back and after 20,000km it'd be more or less same as the older EFI version.
    -Value for money=The company is literally trying to kill it's own market with a far better counterpart in the shape of the infamous Wagon-R.
    But nothing beats the mentality of Pakistanis, on one hand they need a practical daily runner hatchback and on the other hand they need a car with the looks of a Lamborghini Murcielago. Wagon-R is cheaper and far better with an extremely fuel efficient engine under the hood and a huge interior space, and in my opinion, the shape is actually more of a family car. I guess Paki Parents should stop listening to their teenage sons who expect to hook up with some Chika and take her out in a sporty cultus instead of saving his parents money and his time that he could spend with his books and then get a real sports car and hook up with some real ladies. I'm still in my teenage and I know we are all stupid.

    II-JDM:
    -Build quality=Exceptional
    -Fuel efficiency=Exceptional
    -Maintenance=Periodic maintenance is cheap but other problems are a bit tacky to handle, there's only a hand full of mechanics who can understand their mechanism.
    -Spare Parts=High quality original Parts as no one can make those futuristic parts here in Pakistan. But they're extremely expensive.
    -Resale=Resale is actually better than many local cars, especially in Big cities as people prefer them over PKDMs these days.
    -Practicality= their practicality is more of a question mark these days as they cost a lot even on a small problem, like the side mirrors of a 1000cc cost more than those of a New civic.
    -Design=Some people consider them ugly, but I think they're beautiful, specially a few of 'em.

    The options you have in JDM are:
    -Passo 1000c 2010+
    -Vitz 1000cc 2nd gen, clean
    -Mira 660cc 2012+
    -Alto 660cc 2012+ extremely clean.
    well I won't suggest you the last two as their engines are too small but it your commute is based more on a city drive than they can prove really efficient, specially Mira. But their parts are a hard find compared to Toyota 1000cc 1KR-FE and this specific engine is well understood by the local mechanics due to its long existence in Pakistan. Note that no other car from that segment has been received well in our market.

    ___IMO go for a JDM as they're more reliable and better daily runners compared to if compared to Cultus._____
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzamil_r0cKy View Post
    11 lacks is a good budget bro. As you have two options in mind, I won't distract you much.

    I- Cultus:
    -Cheap build quality=inexpensive low quality spare parts.
    -Old school engine=Well understood by local ustaads, less hp for more cc, reliable and time tested engine.
    -15 years old shape=No safety features, lacks basic things such as ABS, airbags, can prove fatal sometimes due to low quality material used for the body.
    -Excellent resale value=Cultus is a well received car in the market. It won't be hard to sell it in a day if you ever need urgent cash.
    -End of production cycle=Rumours are that PS is going to halt the production of cultus from 2016 and will introduce an alternative soon, so you would have to go for the cheap quality fake spare parts after the production ends, which can be a serious issue as those parts don't last for more than six months in most cases, same reason for the decline of Alto and Coure on our roads. There is literally no quality check for the aftermarket spares, and anyone can sell you a life threatening part for your car at an attractive price.
    -Practical= It's periodic maintenance is dirt cheap and it gives an excellent mileage on CNG which is the preferred fuel of our local populace but it will not last long as the country is already facing a shortage of gas reserves and it would be ethically wrong to indulge in the exploitation of our natural reserves. It's as good as a 660 JDM on petrol if you get a euro-II, but with time the mileage will decrease to a notable level as the engine start burning the factory seals and gets in the hands of your trusted Ustaad. Not even the dealership can bring back the mileage you'd get from the first 5000km back and after 20,000km it'd be more or less same as the older EFI version.
    -Value for money=The company is literally trying to kill it's own market with a far better counterpart in the shape of the infamous Wagon-R.
    But nothing beats the mentality of Pakistanis, on one hand they need a practical daily runner hatchback and on the other hand they need a car with the looks of a Lamborghini Murcielago. Wagon-R is cheaper and far better with an extremely fuel efficient engine under the hood and a huge interior space, and in my opinion, the shape is actually more of a family car. I guess Paki Parents should stop listening to their teenage sons who expect to hook up with some Chika and take her out in a sporty cultus instead of saving his parents money and his time that he could spend with his books and then get a real sports car and hook up with some real ladies. I'm still in my teenage and I know we are all stupid.

    II-JDM:
    -Build quality=Exceptional
    -Fuel efficiency=Exceptional
    -Maintenance=Periodic maintenance is cheap but other problems are a bit tacky to handle, there's only a hand full of mechanics who can understand their mechanism.
    -Spare Parts=High quality original Parts as no one can make those futuristic parts here in Pakistan. But they're extremely expensive.
    -Resale=Resale is actually better than many local cars, especially in Big cities as people prefer them over PKDMs these days.
    -Practicality= their practicality is more of a question mark these days as they cost a lot even on a small problem, like the side mirrors of a 1000cc cost more than those of a New civic.
    -Design=Some people consider them ugly, but I think they're beautiful, specially a few of 'em.

    The options you have in JDM are:
    -Passo 1000c 2010+
    -Vitz 1000cc 2nd gen, clean
    -Mira 660cc 2012+
    -Alto 660cc 2012+ extremely clean.
    well I won't suggest you the last two as their engines are too small but it your commute is based more on a city drive than they can prove really efficient, specially Mira. But their parts are a hard find compared to Toyota 1000cc 1KR-FE and this specific engine is well understood by the local mechanics due to its long existence in Pakistan. Note that no other car from that segment has been received well in our market.

    ___IMO go for a JDM as they're more reliable and better daily runners compared to if compared to Cultus._____
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    Cultus has no future+ its a fragile car . once its production stopped nd after some time no one will give damn about it - similar thing happened with alto Go for wagonR vxl ..people in pakistan have this problem that once a new thing is launched they dont accept it but with the time it gains popularity if suzuki can drag liana with almost 0 sale for years then it will not let wagon R go in any case ...to me it looks nice more like a family car its shape is like other jdm cars nd its a great success in many countries so ill be here but it will take time ....suzuki is working on localizing its parts nd its resale is not like corolla but not that bad either...every day their no on roads is slightly increasing....

    As u said u live in rural area so jdm is out of question + their spares r located in big cities only nd that too with insane price tag (u can consult olx as many people r selling jdm parts so u ill get the cost idea)....but if ur still inclined towards jdm then only consider vitz as this car has alot better after market support then other jdm's

    Imo u should go for wagonR as it would be new car nd its best value of money atm nd hopefully will serve u trouble free for years


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    Cultus the JDM version of Suzuki Swift. IT depends on your needs and likes.. Cultus has good body type

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    i have never come across a real life owner of a jdm who says that mileage is excellent..99% of the owners of 660cc i have come across get an average of 14 to 15 in lahore..whereas my efi cultus gives the same average..
    but yes jdm have a good build quality..
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    Quote Originally Posted by nousher101 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ali454 View Post
    i have never come across a real life owner of a jdm who says that mileage is excellent..99% of the owners of 660cc i have come across get an average of 14 to 15 in lahore..whereas my efi cultus gives the same average..
    but yes jdm have a good build quality..
    bro that the thing ppl just like to write "EASSY" on 660cc car but the reality is totally different

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali454 View Post
    i have never come across a real life owner of a jdm who says that mileage is excellent..99% of the owners of 660cc i have come across get an average of 14 to 15 in lahore..whereas my efi cultus gives the same average..
    but yes jdm have a good build quality..
    a friend's father bought a mira, he gave me a test drive to checkout if the car is justified for the price i was, yeah it is. then he said this "jb last time bunk kr k lahore gye thy tw 1500 ka fuel lga tha, achi average ha na?" and i agreed, but then i though heck "itny light foot(70-100) pr is ma 1500 ma hota tw meri 2.0d saloon ne achi jis pr 120-140 pr 2000 ma ho jata or lahore k andr b zyada km phir lety"
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    For Suzuki Cars, I'll suggest you to wait till June 2015.

    Cultus is in plan to be replaced, but it will take more than a year to do that.

    Japanese investors in our region make the most out of these cash cows, replacing a cash cow at Suzuki never had happened.

    Eg:-

    -Mehran
    -Bolan
    -Ravi

    and Now Cultus have reached the same marked to be milked - - so pulling it out from the market -- not that easy for Pak Suzuki to replace it.

    Cultus is comfortable car with no surprises and additional cost, security features Who Cares in our region.

    Imported cars are a mess, when they start giving problem fuel millage etc, then the person living in remote areas gets in trouble. If luckily he finds someone then he needs to empty his pockets for a small job. Loss of Head/tail lamps, glass, side mirrors which is normal for the daily driven cars, but the owner of JDM with such loses faces more money to pay than the PKDM owner.

    JDM did not and will not have any future in Pakistan --- JDM are just for fun ride for 2years max 3years and they loose the resale more compared to PKDM.

    Wagon R a good car, and yes it has a future with its modern K-Series engine, seating capacity with luggage is more than cultus, but its not that comfortable to drive as compared to Cultus, Cultus has a better drive than a WagonR
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamranAslam View Post
    For Suzuki Cars, I'll suggest you to wait till June 2015.

    Cultus is in plan to be replaced, but it will take more than a year to do that.

    Japanese investors in our region make the most out of these cash cows, replacing a cash cow at Suzuki never had happened.

    Eg:-

    -Mehran
    -Bolan
    -Ravi

    and Now Cultus have reached the same marked to be milked - - so pulling it out from the market -- not that easy for Pak Suzuki to replace it.

    Cultus is comfortable car with no surprises and additional cost, security features Who Cares in our region.

    Imported cars are a mess, when they start giving problem fuel millage etc, then the person living in remote areas gets in trouble. If luckily he finds someone then he needs to empty his pockets for a small job. Loss of Head/tail lamps, glass, side mirrors which is normal for the daily driven cars, but the owner of JDM with such loses faces more money to pay than the PKDM owner.

    JDM did not and will not have any future in Pakistan --- JDM are just for fun ride for 2years max 3years and they loose the resale more compared to PKDM.

    Wagon R a good car, and yes it has a future with its modern K-Series engine, seating capacity with luggage is more than cultus, but its not that comfortable to drive as compared to Cultus, Cultus has a better drive than a WagonR
    Are you serious on that one bro??? What would you say about 1st gen vitz? it's in our market since 13-14 years and still the owners earn handsome profits on it.

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    I don't know how a simple questions turn out to be a battlefield.
    Definitely a Japanese, low mileage and higher grade vehicle. Simple as that.

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