Agreed stunner, nothing is for free...everything/everyone makes money in one form or the other...we can argue that if it wouldn't have been for us, they wouldn't make money...also agreed, but then yaar seedhi see baat hai, whether it is defined as a forum or a service, it is a great networking site, and it is OURS...meaning us auto enthusiasts sitting in Pakiland...if some problems have come in...lets just give the site owners some time to rectify it...if they do it great...if they don't eventually the site will fade away and give way to other forum and networking sites...hard core reality. But it doesn't hurt to be polite and give credit where its due...that was all what my point was