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    Default Proposed summer biking trips. Suggestions welcome!

    Shandhoor/ Kafristan
    • Reach Dir.
    • Drive to Chitral.
    • Visit to Kaafiristan villages.
    • Drive to Mastuj.
    • Camping at Shandoor.
    • Camping at Phandar.
    • Reach Gilgit.
    • Visit the landslide lake.
    • Return.

    Azad Kashmir
    • Reach Muzaffarabad, camp at Hattian Bala.
    • Drive to Reshian.
    • Drive to the Leepa village.
    • Walk around the valley.
    • Drive to Athmuqam.
    • Reach Shardi.
    • Drive to Taobut.
    • Camp at Kach Chatha.
    • Cross Noorinar.
    • Return.
    fficeffice" />Neelum/ Deosai/ Naran

    • Reach Muzaffarabad.
    • Drive to Shardi/ Kel.
    • Drive to Taobut.
    • Hike to Deosai.
    • Camp at Minimarg.
    • Camp at Sheosar.
    • Reach Ratu cantt.
    • Cross Shounter Pass.
    • Trek to Kacha Chatta lake.
    • Drive to Shardi.
    • Cross Noorinar and reach Naran.
    • Return.


    *All these suggestions are close approximations and such plans should be finalized at the spot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lovebikes View Post
    Though already accepted an offer to join a trek in July but I am all in for plan 3, lets hope that the dates dont coincide.
    I might do this trek after Shandoor biking trip. This way will be starting at Chilam and making the loop. It has to be end of July when Deosai blooms.

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    @khanmomer
    End of july suits me fine, lets make a plan.
    I work only because it pays for three F's. Food for me, Fuel for my bike and Film for my camera.

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    Publication Name: Chitral Brochure FINAL MATER.cdr


    Shandur Polo Festival is 07-09 July... usually as per this brochure..

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    and what is going on here.....
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    i think all 3 plans are great and perfect for a adventure in my eyes.but i cant attend to any of them untill my masters papers ends.which i think will be over at end of july...N that was the reason that i did'nt say anything when the plan of summer trip was being planned

    Best of luck for the trip everyone...
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    salam to all brothers. I suggest you can try mix cocktail.
    As per discussion uptill now some respected members(including @imranbhatti and @bilalzubairy) want to see Shandooor polo festival. Respected Dr. Omar khan sahib want his Off-Road machine roaring and exploring Deosai Plains. Respected @lovebike want to make a loop trek around Chilam Chauki. Morover law and order situation in Malakand and Dir is not satisfactory.

    So keeping in mind all these factors and after confirming the final date of Shandoor festival plan could be that members should make departure from their places and unite inform of group in Rawalpindi/Islamabad four days before the festival date. Lets suppose festival is on 7th july, then plan could be:
    3rd july:Lahore to Rawalpindi
    4th july:Rawalpnidi to Besham/Chilas (Besham can easily be touched in one day and if you put an extra effort and time you can make it to Chilas)
    5th july:reach Gopis/Phunder and camp on Khalti Lake/Phunder Lake
    6th july:reach Shandoor by evening and camp there
    7th july: See polo match and nightstay at camp
    8th july: Departure from Shandoor and reach Gilgit
    9th july:Giligit to Thalechi on KKH and leave KKH and take Astore Road and reach Astore. Stay at Kamran hotel Astore or PTDC motel Rama Lake
    10th july:Visit Rama Lake and move to Tarshing. night stay at Nanga Parbat Hotel or Rupal hotel at Tarshing
    11th july:take guide and porters from Tarshing and trekk to Nanga Parbat Rupal face:Herley Offer base camp(locals call it Heli Kafir base camp)
    if you want to spend two days you can camp at Heli Kafir base camp and next day do trek to Latobi Village otherwise Tarshing to Heli Kafir and back is almost 8 hour trek and doable in oneday
    12th july:Tarshing to Chilam Chauki
    Almost 4/5 days needed to make loop trek starting and ending at Chilam Chauki.
    17th July:Chilam to Skardu crossing Deosai and sightseeing Sadpara Lake on the way and night stay Skardu.
    One can go back from Skardu to RWP via KKH or if have spare time can visit the places around like Shigar Valley, Khaplu, Upper Kachura Lake and Lower Kachura Lake(Shangrila)

    This plan is little lengthy but comprehensive. Rembers having time constraints can join/depart at Gilgit on wayback from Shandoor. or one can also goback after visiting Rupal face of Nanga parbat.

    If you ask to me i am more tilt towards plan 3 given by Dr. sahib but i suggested an alternative plan which is flexible and fulfills most of the requirements given by the respected members and scenic too. Cheers

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    @farhan ...

    great plan :-)......

    can you suggest a plan to trek to Herley Offer base Camp and see Nanga Parbat and back......????
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    Quote Originally Posted by farhan_khetran View Post
    salam to all brothers. I suggest you can try mix cocktail.
    As per discussion uptill now some respected members(including @imranbhatti and @bilalzubairy) want to see Shandooor polo festival. Respected Dr. Omar khan sahib want his Off-Road machine roaring and exploring Deosai Plains. Respected @lovebike want to make a loop trek around Chilam Chauki. Morover law and order situation in Malakand and Dir is not satisfactory.

    So keeping in mind all these factors and after confirming the final date of Shandoor festival plan could be that members should make departure from their places and unite inform of group in Rawalpindi/Islamabad four days before the festival date. Lets suppose festival is on 7th july, then plan could be:
    3rd july:Lahore to Rawalpindi
    4th july:Rawalpnidi to Besham/Chilas (Besham can easily be touched in one day and if you put an extra effort and time you can make it to Chilas)
    5th july:reach Gopis/Phunder and camp on Khalti Lake/Phunder Lake
    6th july:reach Shandoor by evening and camp there
    7th julyee polo match and nightstay at camp
    8th julyeparture from Shandoor and reach Gilgit
    9th july:Giligit to Thalechi on KKH and leave KKH and take Astore Road and reach Astore. Stay at Kamran hotel Astore or PTDC motel Rama Lake
    10th july:Visit Rama Lake and move to Tarshing. night stay at Nanga Parbat Hotel or Rupal hotel at Tarshing
    11th july:take guide and porters from Tarshing and trekk to Nanga Parbat Rupal face:Herley Offer base camp(locals call it Heli Kafir base camp)
    if you want to spend two days you can camp at Heli Kafir base camp and next day do trek to Latobi Village otherwise Tarshing to Heli Kafir and back is almost 8 hour trek and doable in oneday
    12th july:Tarshing to Chilam Chauki
    Almost 4/5 days needed to make loop trek starting and ending at Chilam Chauki.
    17th July:Chilam to Skardu crossing Deosai and sightseeing Sadpara Lake on the way and night stay Skardu.
    One can go back from Skardu to RWP via KKH or if have spare time can visit the places around like Shigar Valley, Khaplu, Upper Kachura Lake and Lower Kachura Lake(Shangrila)

    This plan is little lengthy but comprehensive. Rembers having time constraints can join/depart at Gilgit on wayback from Shandoor. or one can also goback after visiting Rupal face of Nanga parbat.

    If you ask to me i am more tilt towards plan 3 given by Dr. sahib but i suggested an alternative plan which is flexible and fulfills most of the requirements given by the respected members and scenic too. Cheers
    Thanks Farhan for a detailed proposal. I am obliged.
    Now we have 4 trips to choose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by star2 View Post
    and what is going on here.....

    Where r u Mustfeez? and why are you silent about this trip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farhan_khetran View Post
    salam to all brothers. I suggest you can try mix cocktail.
    As per discussion uptill now some respected members(including @imranbhatti and @bilalzubairy) want to see Shandooor polo festival. Respected Dr. Omar khan sahib want his Off-Road machine roaring and exploring Deosai Plains. Respected @lovebike want to make a loop trek around Chilam Chauki. Morover law and order situation in Malakand and Dir is not satisfactory.

    So keeping in mind all these factors and after confirming the final date of Shandoor festival plan could be that members should make departure from their places and unite inform of group in Rawalpindi/Islamabad four days before the festival date. Lets suppose festival is on 7th july, then plan could be:
    3rd july:Lahore to Rawalpindi
    4th july:Rawalpnidi to Besham/Chilas (Besham can easily be touched in one day and if you put an extra effort and time you can make it to Chilas)
    5th july:reach Gopis/Phunder and camp on Khalti Lake/Phunder Lake
    6th july:reach Shandoor by evening and camp there
    7th julyee polo match and nightstay at camp
    8th julyeparture from Shandoor and reach Gilgit
    9th july:Giligit to Thalechi on KKH and leave KKH and take Astore Road and reach Astore. Stay at Kamran hotel Astore or PTDC motel Rama Lake
    10th july:Visit Rama Lake and move to Tarshing. night stay at Nanga Parbat Hotel or Rupal hotel at Tarshing
    11th july:take guide and porters from Tarshing and trekk to Nanga Parbat Rupal face:Herley Offer base camp(locals call it Heli Kafir base camp)
    if you want to spend two days you can camp at Heli Kafir base camp and next day do trek to Latobi Village otherwise Tarshing to Heli Kafir and back is almost 8 hour trek and doable in oneday
    12th july:Tarshing to Chilam Chauki
    Almost 4/5 days needed to make loop trek starting and ending at Chilam Chauki.
    17th July:Chilam to Skardu crossing Deosai and sightseeing Sadpara Lake on the way and night stay Skardu.
    One can go back from Skardu to RWP via KKH or if have spare time can visit the places around like Shigar Valley, Khaplu, Upper Kachura Lake and Lower Kachura Lake(Shangrila)

    This plan is little lengthy but comprehensive. Rembers having time constraints can join/depart at Gilgit on wayback from Shandoor. or one can also goback after visiting Rupal face of Nanga parbat.

    If you ask to me i am more tilt towards plan 3 given by Dr. sahib but i suggested an alternative plan which is flexible and fulfills most of the requirements given by the respected members and scenic too. Cheers

    Thanks and welcome...

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    @farhan_khetran

    Atlast you made an account on PW... and thanx for such a detailed and accommodating plan...

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    what about,, visit of chitral...from onward from shandoor...

    I think as per farhan plan... before shandoor festival... one should complete the deosai, trashing area and skardu... and then onward move to shandoor chitral and lowari and back...

    means Lahore pindi, astore, deosai, skardu, gilgit, phander shandoor, chitral- lowari top-dir.. and back.. subject to law and order situation in the dir area...

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    wow wow wow.... rana bhai,,,, great plan... i would love to activate it some day..

    i am saying some day due to time problem....

    why not to make it as
    lahore to pindi to muzaffarabad to sharda to nori top to jalkhad to babusar to chilas to astor to deosai to skardu to gilgt to phandar to shandur to mastaj to chitral to bamboret to dir to takhtbai to nowshehra to lahore

    on bikes.....


    but i am afriad it is not possible for me in near future
    too much time + too much expenses.. one have to consider both of these metrics na....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranasherdil View Post
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    what about,, visit of chitral...from onward from shandoor...

    I think as per farhan plan... before shandoor festival... one should complete the deosai, trashing area and skardu... and then onward move to shandoor chitral and lowari and back...

    means Lahore pindi, astore, deosai, skardu, gilgit, phander shandoor, chitral- lowari top-dir.. and back.. subject to law and order situation in the dir area...
    Dont worry about law and order situation dear friends because many many people are living and raising their children there. If it gets real bad we wont go but it cant stay that bad for long. Today I checked and found busses plying to Dir and everything looked fine for passing travellers.

    Please consider the necessity of having only 10-14 days available for Deosai ie 22nd July, when spring arrives till early August when Ramzan starts. Trip to Deosai in the first week of July would be unfair to the travellers and Deosai itself.

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    omer bhai i have crossed deosai in 2008 during 4 july to 8 july..... though i trekked but the view of deosai with snow was something beyond imaginations......
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    thnx @conflicted.

    yes your amendment/addition is also doable but subject to opening of two high passes. Babusar and noori top and subject to time constraint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conflicted View Post
    omer bhai i have crossed deosai in 2008 during 4 july to 8 july..... though i trekked but the view of deosai with snow was something beyond imaginations......

    I would still prefer Deosai full of lovely flowers filling the air with beautifull incomparable fragrance. Something out of this world.

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    @khanmomer

    Please some weather update bhi lain.. waisay tou yeh sara tour plan.. moonsoon walay area ma nahi hai...

    But in 2010, moonsoon crossed the himaliyas and resulted the severe floods... and road closures and other travellers difficulties.

    pata nahi Met office walay kia prediction kartay hain abt this moonsoon...

    Usually swat upper valley beyond kalam.. Babusar k paar moonsoon k baadal nae aatay same is the case with deosai, skardu gilgit, chitral shandoor areas...

    Though it should not be considered as a big issue.. but should be kept in mind...

    Thanks...

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    Dr. Sb I am always there.....looking after things and preparing myself, I'll be there Inshallah .
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