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    AOA PW Brothers,
    I a m planning to Visit North next year on Bike target areas would be (Deosai,Skardoo,Shigar,Chillas,Babusar) via Naran.
    I 've budget of around 1.25 lacs.Kindly recommend which bike would best fit.

    Honda CG 125
    Suzuki 150
    Honda CB 250
    Your Suggestion?

    Regarding Honda CB 250 can i get it new here in Pakistan or i've to import.
    WTB Police auction.

    Thanks


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    Also get a check on some local mechanic in hilly areas.

    Keep tyre air presssure lower in hilly area than plain area
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    GS-150 and Honda 125 Deluxe ki seat par ap try kar k dekhyay ga... before you get it...
    Road to Heaven will never be a highway...

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    Inspite of bad seating and nonavailability of parts. I would prefer GS-150.

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    Comparison of GS-150 & CG-125 DeluxSuggest Bike for Long Routes and Hilly areas -314399

    Suggest Bike for Long Routes and Hilly areas -314400

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultaniTraveler View Post
    Comparison of GS-150 & CG-125 DeluxSuggest Bike for Long Routes and Hilly areas - 314399

    Suggest Bike for Long Routes and Hilly areas - 314400
    Suzuki gives more classic and strong looks as compare to Honda.
    I talked to some of my friends those who are into bikes they reckon 125 classic is best among all and claimed suzuki 150 is failure.I can't comment on that due to lack of bikes knowledge.

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    if wanting some powerful machine than, just go for a DT. its driving is hard, means u feel uncomfortable on long drive but i personally have used yamaha enduro 175 for 2 years and i loved it. only draw back is its uncomfortable drive but it is a hell of power.

    125 at many places can be busted if on double sowari, at bakot forest, on double sowari it is boyond its limitations, at sharan at paey these are the recent places where i couldnt rode 125 with double sowari. for such places, a DT is expert...

    rest seeing the parts issue and mechanic issues, 125 seems to be the good choice.. coz DT is expensive in maintenance and petrol etc.

    but if i have to replace my 125 surely i will replace it with GS 150
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    For mountains the choice should be simple, a 2 stroke. They are more suitable because,
    • They weigh less. Weight is a major problem on mountains and unpaved tracks. Lighter bikes are easier to handle. GS 150weighs 119 kgs and Deluxe around the same making them unsuitable for offroading.
    • Engines are more powerful. In 2 strokes every other stroke is the power stroke allowing them to produce more power.
    • They are simple, so easy to maintain.
    • They produce much more torque and that also at low rpms.
    • They have excellent power to weight ratios.
    • For a 4 stroke bike to give comparable service the displacement should be more than 350cc.
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    Currently 2 brands of 2 stroke bikes are available, Yamaha YB100 and Suzuki Shogun100. Both are excellent machines but Suzuki Shogun produces more torque giving it fantastic pulling power but it is more expensive. Yamaha has advantage of easy availability of spares. Both weigh around 80kgs,

    My choice would be Suzuki Shogun,

    Omar


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    EXPERIENCE SPEAKS IT SELF..

    @ omer bhai

    really very well narrated.. loved the thought u gave us,,
    are these bikes comfortable in driving, specially if we consider long drives..???

    i havent used them so asking.
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    though i am no more that much biker now as once i was.. i love to walk now in remote locations.... but even than, once or twice a year i rode for long i.e 200 to 400 kms tour... and for that still i have my 2003 model honda 125 ...
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    Yamaha Two Stroke is Best ever bike for Double Sawari as well pulling the weight.
    Last year our visited to Fatehpur Thakyala (New name of Nakayal). We enjoying riding on Yamaha 100.
    it 1550 meter above sea level.

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    I agree to @khanmomar about use of 2-Stroke machine in mountaineous areas. In addition to less weight and high torque of 2-Stroke bike, it also has the advantage of fuel being used in a sense that in those areas you don't always get the pure gasoline and mobil oil and as a result making a damage to your sophisticated 4-stroke engine...2-stroke engines are less sensitive to this.

    @imranbhatti is very right about the discomfort of CG-125. In my opinion if Honda have to give some reasonable bike in Pakistan; it had already given in the form of CD-200/185 and MB-100 in past. Now a days they are just eating the earning of their brand name which they built in pakistan starting in 1975 and from machines like battery start Honda-90, Benley Super which was renamed and modified to S110 and CD-175 and in 1981/82 they launched the CG-125 and Honda-C70.

    If i have been in possession of a time machine and i could rollback the time, i would have liked to go in the era of early 80's when we had bikes like Kawasaki KE-175, Yamaha RX-115, Suzuki GP-100 and Honda CD-200 available in Pakistan brand new, also not to forget the Kawasaki Sports110 which was renamed to GTO110 in 1986 and GTO 125. I owned a CD-200, GTO-110 and GTO-125 in past and i still love the memories associated with these bikes. But Alas, these are the glimpses from past now.

    Now coming to the current scenario of bikes, my 2-cents are:

    To do/own something differnt you have to be different and you have to pay the price for being different. Talking particularly about bikes, if you are riding something different from Honda-CG 125 and Yamaha YB-100 in North of Pakistan, you are riding something different and you will have to be ready for the consequences of being different. For example, last year in August in Mastuj(A tehsil of Chitral District) puncture shopkeeper refused to open my GS's rear wheel to mend the puncture becase he only knew to open CG's wheels..so i had to take all the pain to dismentle it using the tool which i was carrying with me. This year in Gilgit, mobil oil drain bolt was not being opened by the mechanic and he said "Sir! I am afraid it would have to be striked with a hammer to get it open and in this process your samp (Engine outer piece) can get cracked. If you allow me i do initiate the process". Later i went to my hotel room, opened my luggage,, digged out Ring Spanner which I was carrying with me and changed the oil using "DIY".
    DIY=term used as an abbreviation for DO IT YOURSELF
    So if you want to own something different you would have to get ready for DIY

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    "DIY" is the best option in most cases. You have to do for your own.

    MR. Farhan, please give us your experience about GS-150. I will help us a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conflicted View Post
    EXPERIENCE SPEAKS IT SELF..

    @ omer bhai

    really very well narrated.. loved the thought u gave us,,
    are these bikes comfortable in driving, specially if we consider long drives..???

    i havent used them so asking.
    Dear Danish,
    Weight of the bike is a liability on the mountains but a stabilising factor on highways. I would prefer a GS over the lighter 2 strokes on paved roads. The lighter bikes should be driven at lower speeds. I would feel comfortable driving them at around 65km/hr.

    Regarding comfort I feel any bike is more comfortable than 4 spd CG125 at 60kph or above, as it shakes terribly. The 5 speed version is much better.

    BTW I feel bikes should not be driven on highways in Pakistan at all as it has become too rowdy and dangerous. I take my bike in bus/train and start driving on mountains. Now I am thinking of getting a bike trolley to attach to my car.
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    What your thoughts on Ravi Piaggio?

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bik...i-euro-ii-bike

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    ravi piaggio, is a superb bike as far as i heard, italian technology perhaps..,, but let experts give their opinion about that. it is also 4 stroke .... and as Omer bhai said, 4 stroke engine should be above 350CC fir off roading

    i have not even drove it till now..
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    Regarding seat... I have ride my CG-125 more than 14 hours in a day. 8am to 10pm in my trip...Though tired... (as banda apnay ghar beth k bhi tou tired ho hi jata ha) but not much uncomfortable and I am satisfied by its seat.

    But regarding GS-150 seat.... I went a trip to Cholistan on the back seat of Mr. Farhan (Two people on one).... It was a hell to sit... My wording was just... that it is not made for people of pakistan. It doesn't comply to body frame/structure of Pakistani people.

    Same I was not easy to drive GS,,,

    Regarding two person on mountains... CG will not work proper. Highly recommended one person on one bike.

    Waisay tou ma last year CD-70 pa two person *** thay... Murree via Express way and aagay Muzaffarabad.. Garhi dopatta.. and even upto halfway of Pir Chinasi.

    Bass pohanch *** thay... but kaheen kaheen my friend utar jata tha.. kaheen dhaka bhi laga daita tha...

    So 2 person on one bike k apnay faiday apnay nuqsan hotay hain...faida yeh ha k mushkil charhai ya kaheen gari phans jae tou dosra banda dhaka laga daita ha...

    My bike stuck on Naltar in my trip.. It was very gradient spot of road... And it was all kacha will bajri (little stones)...

    I was not able to move forward.. the tyre moves but bike not a single inch... It was even difficult for me to turn my bike on such gradient... so I put in gear.. switched off and stand it on the small stand..

    Then help arrived there... A person with family on car. I requested him to help me to turn my back.. and I asked I want to go back...

    But he encouraged me.. and pushed my bike and I was on the way.. and he all the way escorted me like a police van with a VVIP.. HAA HAA. Thanks to him.

    On my way back... A person employed in GB govt office,,,, He was so kind... and good... he was with his some friends and his nephwes... He escorted me upto Nomal. Thanks.


    Thanks to Allah and all.
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    Regarding CG125 only bad thing is it's suspension and seat. If you are not riding a bike daily than there's a tough task. I have had Honda 100 and it's suspension was excellent and at top speed it's drive was excellent. Then after 100 I got CG 125 and feel very uncomfortable because of it's seat and suspension. Now, I am thinking to get either Piaggio or Deluxe.

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    I guess on such long routes selection of Bike is the major decision.
    Thanks every one for helping me out.
    Here we have to look into facts not hypothesis ,CG 125 classic has already made the reputation as most of the people selected this bike and best thing about it that local mechanic is used to.But it also lack safety features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c123pk View Post
    After the luxury of 4x4s you really should try going on a 125, i kept three 125s when i was a kid, it makes your balls numb, you can't feel them after having a ride of 30 minutes, that too on very smooth roads, don't believe me, test it yourself
    LOOOOOOOOL

    Honestly i thought i was the only one with this problem
    now it looks like there are more

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    Regarding Seat of GS-150.... I can call it boyfriend girlfriend seat... On the backseat the man is so uncomfortable because the seat is inclined to front.. Backseat wala apnay apko girl friend feel karta ha... uss ko front walay say chipak k jurr kay jhuk k baithna parta ha...


    I didn't have any experience of Deluxe, but I think Deluxe ki seat bhi GS ki tarah hi hogi...(MY GUESS)



    CG-125 ki seat say mujhey koi masla nahi...na front say, na rear say...
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