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    Default Bike Tour 4,000 KMS - Karachi - Naran - Astor (Gilgit Balistan) and Back to Karachi

    My Travel Itinerary:

    Day 01: Wed - Aug 21st --> Karachi to Uch Sharif (Punjab)

    Day 02: Thur- Aug 22nd --> Uch Sharif to D.I. Khan (KPK)

    Day 03: Fri - Aug 23rd --> Stayed in D.I. Khan (KPK)

    Day 04: Sat - Aug 24th --> DI Khan to Islamabad

    Day 05: Sun - Aug 25th --> Stayed in Islamabad

    Day 06: Mon - Aug 26th --> Islamabad to Naran

    Day 07: Tue - Aug 27th --> Naran to Astor (Gilgit Balistan)

    Day 08: Wed - Aug 28th --> Astor to Rama Lake and Back to Naran

    Day 09: Thur - Aug 29th --> Naran to Islamabad

    Day 10: Fri - Aug 30th --> Islamabad to Karachi

    Day 11: Sat - Aug 31st --> Traveling to Karachi

    Day 12: Sun - Sep 01st --> Early Morning Arrived in Karachi



    I have lived abroad most of my life and only returned to Pakistan some three years back. I now live in Karachi and have driven to Islamabad many times by car and its been an exhilarating experience every time.

    My Bike Adventure plans began more than two years back when I was visiting Northern Areas (Naran) with Cousins from Islamabad. I drove my car alone from Karachi to Islamabad and got together with 9 others in two cars and explored the Northern areas for the very first time in my life and was struck by its shear beauty. Along the way I saw many people on motorcycles whom I thought were locals at first, or perhaps from Islamabad area. However, upon discovering Pakwheels I was amazed to see that so many people were driving their bikes in groups from various parts of Punjab as were as a few courageous souls who also traveled from other places and posted their step by step travel experiences, both on bikes and cars.

    So I began to think what it would be like to drive a bike across the country since I had already done that by car many times. I should point out that where I had lived my entire life one could not imagine driving a bike, at least not an entire year due to heavy snow during winters and many wet days of rain throughout summer. So to put it plainly, I had never driven a bike nor did I know how to drive one. Although I sad on a few bikes in Pakistan as a passenger but never really driven one.

    So now I was becoming more and more bold in researching bikes both on Pakwheels as well as on olx. I came to a realization that most long distance riders who posted on Pakwheels chose either a Honda 125 or a Suzuki GS 150. I took many months researching both the pros and cons of both bikes to see which was better for longer drives, fuel economy, accessible spare parts, durability and so on. And although I was leaning more towards purchasing a Honda, I was told that in Karachi it would not be wise to buy a new Honda and instead to go for a new Suzuki GS 150 due to the high demand of Hondas and the high likelihood of a new 125 being stolen.

    So a year back (Nov 2012) after doing plenty of research I finally purchased my first ever Bike, GS 150 and asked the seller to deliver it to my office since I didn't want anyone at home to know had I purchased a bike since I didn't know how to ride one just yet. At my office I used the help of my guard to teach me how to turn it on, how to put it in gear, how to break and all the basics which were totally a new experience for me. After some three weeks of learning to ride in our large office parking lot after hours when there was no traffic I finally gained the confidence of driving it home. I began to drive it from home to office daily after everyone came to know I had purchased a bike but due to the fact I could comfortably ride it not too many objected to me purchasing a bike as I had originally thought.


    A month later I took my first ever 'Long Distance Test Drive' experience to Hyderabad which took me close to 3 hours with a brief 5 min stop at two places to adjust my ever so aching bum. I had a relative in the Army who was posted in Hyd Cantt. After a two night stay and a professional Champi I returned back to Karachi and realized just how painful and exhausting a long drive can be. Nothing could be done I thought, to resolve the issue of an aching bum from such a long drive.

    Upon reading many of the threads on this site I finally realized I needed a cushion to sit on for a longer drive as well as some basic necessities I would need for a longer drive.

    So this year from Feb/March I began my plan to ride to Islamabad and then up to Naran if I can. I did post on here asking for people's advice as to whether it was safe to drive to Naran from Karachi in March-April and most responded that Naran will not be approachable till late May due to snow which has not yet melted. So the next possible time I had was holidays just after Eid in August.

    So on Aug 21st I began my road trip to Islamabad. But I had only 10 days since I had to be back to work on Monday Sept 2nd and that meant I would have to be back in Karachi by Sat Aug 30th or Sun Aug 31st and allow myself to rest for a day on Sunday.

    I did the following very basic modifications;
    - HID Headlight for high beam, low beam was regular headlight
    - Installed a Car Lighter Adapter in order to keep my mobile charged while I listened to music during my drive
    - Installed a new wider and larger Tire in rear
    - Purchased new tubes for the front and back
    - Wasn't sure of the tools so left that since I have never changed a tire but was certain I would find a puncture shop on the road
    - Purchased an extra Clutch Cable and a Break Cable
    - Installed saddle bags for each side for my Water Supply and other heavy items
    - Installed two Heavy Horns to sound like a Corolla which really really helped throughout the trip
    - After getting a Fresh Oil Change two days before leaving, Also purchased an extra liter of oil for the road

    What I forgot was to purchase a pump, someone might help me change a tube but how would we pump air into the tire? That was something I realized much later after returning back to Karachi.

    I guess these are all the items I got done to the Bike before leaving. Now I should point out once again that all these ideas I got on this website from reading many other postings except for the lighter adapter which was my idea since I could not go an entire day without being certain I had a mobile which was charged for security situations in case I needed to call someone.

    I had a Thermos with ice cubes and frozen cold water along with frozen water bottles for the road.

    I began my trip exactly at 3:30 AM on Wed Aug 21st in order to do most of my drive in cool temperatures and avoid the summer heat. My plan was to clear Sindh in Day time and enter Punjab before sun set and take a hotel in Rahim Yar Khan. Now I had no idea just how long it would take me to reach Rahim Yar Khan so I planned a stop at RY Khan for the first night. My relative who lived in Hyderabad the year before had been re-posted to Dera Ismail Khan so now the plan was to stop there on my way to Islamabad, which meant a new route I had never been on.

    So my second night stay would have to be DI Khan if I could reach it.

    I left Karachi with a half tank of Fuel (Rs 500) in order to keep the weight light so I could easily cope with the steep hills I had to climb on my way to Hyderabad knowing full well that I would find many petrol pumps along the way. The plan was to fill up just after crossing Hyderabad as it would be a more flatter and smoother ride. I cleared Hyd just after 6:30 AM and filled up to the top. I drove past many farming communities and realized that although I had driven this route many times over the past 3 years, I never saw this view from the car which I was enjoying now on my bike trip. I kept a steady speed of 80 and sometimes even touched 90 on clear roads but had to slow back down 70 near heavy traffic.

    I stopped somewhere at a Truck Stop (Charpai Hotel) for breakfast at around 9 AM, not sure if I can remember the place but it may be close to Moro. I am certain that the very first 3 pics should remind some of the readers as to the location if they have traveled this route.


    After a 45 Minute stop for nashta which I had on a Charpai I got back on my bike and head further into Sindh. Now I should also mention that I had my relatives believe I would go by Bus and book my Bike on top all the way to Islamabad and then do my road trip from Isb to Naran. No one would believe it was possible or even safe to travel by bike this long route. This is why you will notice I had most all of my pics with my bike in order to later convince people that I in fact drove my bike and did not just stop the bus to take pics along the way.

    Most of the readers will automatically recognize these areas of interior Sindh along Kherpur, Gotki and other areas where I stopped to take pics.
    As it got closer and closer to the afternoon, it got hotter and hotter. I would stop periodically to open the water bottle in my saddle bag on the side which was already warm, so I would take a cup which I carried and mix the ice cold water with the warm water so as to not to have a very cold drink and at the same time make the water cold enough to drink and keep myself hydrated in the heat of August.

    I was expecting to reach the border of Punjab and cross Sadiqqabad and catch a hotel in RY Khan sometime in the evening knowing full well that I would have to stop within Sindh to take rest under the shade of a tree during the afternoon, but to my surprise I kept riding without tiring and by 2:30 pm I was already at RY Khan. I wondered what I would do all day in RY Khan and rather than sleeping it off at the hotel all day I decided to keep on going and pushed further ahead and improvise on my night stay along the way.

    Although I would stop from time to time to drink plenty of water along the way I noticed now that I was not perspiring, I was not passing urine, and so I was wondering where all that water was going. I mean I had possible drank almost 3 liters of water, two full Nestle bottles which are at least a liter and a half each. But soon I came head on with my worst fears. I began to feel a light headache which got worst as I drove, I was feeling the heat radiating from the asphalt on the road below me and I felt hotter and hotter with my forehead beginning to sweat.

    I was come down with a heat stroke. I quickly started searching for any shade I could find but to my surprise, after passing RY Khan I really didn't see any tree but rather just fields and fields of vegetation. Soon I began to see trees in a distance and now I began to wish for a tree I could just drive my bike across the field and park under the tree to rest it off and cool down.

    There was a small dirt road cutting of the highway into some village in a distance but that road was enough for me to have access to the tree line and I just drove into the field of grass and parked my bike under the rich green trees. I pulled out a plastic sheet which I had carried with me for such occasions and laid it on the uneven dried mud field and then took out the plain which sheet to lay on top of the plastic sheet and then used the cushion I was carrying to sit on as a pillow and just laid down to sleep. I don?t know when I dosed off to sleep but could hear people walking in the distance on that dirt road hardly 50 feet from where I was sleeping. From time to time I would open my eyes and see the people walk by or on bikes who were locals and they would look at me but carried on without stopping.

    When I finally woke it was past 5:30 pm and I slowly got up, took out some much needed cold water and mixed it with the water from the bottle and drank a good three glasses down. I sat simply lay for another 10 mins or so and then folded the bed sheet and the plastic sheet and put them back in place.
    I got back on the road and although I could still feel the heat readiating from the road beneath me, it was nothing as before and I also knew it would cool down now that the sun was at an angle and would set in another two to three hours.

    From my map I knew I had to get off the main N5 highway and go towards Uch Sharif and then onward towards DI Khan and stop for night stay somewhere at a Hotel. When I reached Uch it was almost Maghrib time so I stopped at the most beautiful Charpai Hotel that I had ever seen. It was beautifully built with paved parking lot, a nice small mosque next to it which was glittering in marble and glass designs and kalima written all around it in colorful tiles. It was so well lit with dozens of bulbs. So I stopped for Maghrib and then decided to have dinner. As usual I asked the waiter for a nice meal and then they asked where I was coming from and where I was heading upon seeing the luggage on my bike. I told them and they were shocked, that I had driven all the far from Karachi. I asked how far Ali Pur was since that was on route, they said it would be another 2 hours so I asked if there were any hotels to stay at in Ali Pur. They one by one along with other customers who heard of my trip and where I planned on going came to me and requested I not drive further due to bad security conditions during the night as well as there are no services along the way until Ali Pur in case I got a tire puncture or other problems. They all recommended I stay the night at the charpai hotel.

    So after dinner and isha I asked where I could sleep since my bike had luggage which was difficult for me to undo and then again it took a while for me to tie it and didn't want to waste time in the morning putting it on once again. So they suggested they would set up a charpai for me in the veranda (baranda) where I could park my bike next to me and they too had armed guards who would also watch out for my luggage and bike so not to worry. And the best part was the stay overnight was absolutely FREE. So I did just that and was fast asleep by 9:30 pm and had set my mobile alarm for 4 am in order to be on the road early to beat the summer heat and not face another day of heat stroke on my way to DI Khan.

    When I woke up in the morning at 4 am I shut the alarm and went back to sleep since it was such a restful sleep with a cool breeze thinking I would just rest for another 10 mins before getting up. It was the morning azan which I woke up to at around 5: 00 AM. I quickly told the waiter to prepare nashta for me (Chai Paratha) while I go to offer namaz. After nashta at 5:30 I was about to leave but was requested to wait till the sun came out for safety and so I did just that. There are a few pics of my morning nashta in that charpai hotel at Uch.

    I filled up at their pump and by 6 AM I was on the road again passing through many rivers along the road which were so pretty seeing the reflection in the water early in the morning.

    I drove to DG Khan, and then to DI Khan where I reached at 1:30 PM and stayed with my relative Major Hasan for two days. Enjoyed his family?s hospitality and wonderful food. And on Sat Aug, 24th at 6 Am after breakfast Major Hasan arranged for his Driver and Guard to escort me for a safe passage to the city limits and they put me on the road leading to Chashma.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sjamil89 View Post
    The hotel you saw at Shogran was "Pine Park Hotel". Very scenic hotel at a very nice location.
    Yes, thank you for correcting me. I have been there twice and still forget the name. Its really a very beautiful hotel situated on top of a mountain with large gardens. Absolutely stunning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjamil89 View Post
    Dear Sir,
    Nice and brave trip. Very interesting narration. Very informative. Povoking me to plan for a same trip from KHI to the northern areas. Please keep sharing your experience.
    I honestly think its something that we must all do at least once in our lives, to see the wonderful country through the Helmet visor on our motorcycle instead of a car window. Its an experience like no other. But as you just mentioned, PLAN it.

    You seriously need to make a decision to go alone, plan it out, and whether or not you are able to convince others (friends/family) to join along, just go ahead and DO IT. You will never regret it and always cherish and remember it for a long time.

    It was stories that I also read on Pak Wheels that inspired me and helped me in the planning of the trip. I think there are some exceptional ideas on this site that other riders have posted along with their pictures that are more than sufficient in helping plan a safe and fun trip across Pakistan. The only thing remaining is your DECISION and EXECUTION.

    Live it up, Go a Head, and Enjoy yourself through Pakistan.

    In fact, I was visiting a relative last Thursday at his office and he had an old friend drop by. His friend was discussing a day trip in Balochistan to Noorani which he had made with his friends on bike. In any case, on Friday my relative discussed the idea of doing a similar trip just before we went for Jumma Namaz, after Jumma we had decided that we would do the trip the very next day since Sunday was the Pak/Bangladesh Match and we didn't want to miss it.

    So we googled the location and direction, distance and so on. And from 3 pm till 7 pm we each got out bikes ready for the trip along with what necessities we needed along the way. I slept at his home overnight, and in the morning after Fajar on Saturday we left for a Day Trip to Noorani at 7 am on two bikes (my GS 150 and his Unique 70). We picked up another friend along the way and had a nice drive to Noorani and returned by 5:30 pm the same day. It was a total of 286 kms from Home to Noorni and back, just under 300 kms for the entire trip.

    This is the spur of the moment type of trips, if we decide we should do it then we just do it. Actually, I have done long trips by they had never driven on bikes outside Karachi so it was the first for the two of them on a tour outside Karachi. Now they are so inspired that also are considering for a longer trip perhaps to Punjab. However, getting enough days off and deciding on the season will be a challenge for all three of us.



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    @Sulaiman75. Amazing, Marvellous, Inspiring. I'm following your posts from the very first day. There are many posts about trips on cars, bikes, bus, Jeep. But you and Rana Sherdill have best journey. Or may be best way to describe.
    I'm also planning a trip on bike to Lalazar.
    I'm asking about the small roads condition like shogran, kiwai, siri, PAYE, saif ul mulook, and lalazar?
    These roads or paved or not?
    Hotels in above described places?
    As you mentioned that lake road is bumpy hard to drive a bike. I've a puncture kit but its so hesitating and time consuming.

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    Janab Sulaiman Saheb,,Assllamualikum,,,
    Jnaab aap ko tu writer hona cheyeh tha ,,Aap ka SaffarNama shoro kia tu jab tak khatm nahi kar lia nahi chora,,go k SaffarNama english me likha hay,,laikin andaz-e-beyan itna shandar tha k me apney aap ko aap k sath samjh raha tha,,yun lag raha tha k me bhi aap k sath hi saffar kar raha hun,,,me apna introduction karwa dun,,mera Nam Abdul Hafeez Khan hay,,Karachi Johur me rehhaish hay,,oil and gas sector my job field..aksar Northern areas me jana hota hay,,lakin motorbike pe un paharun me ghomnay ki hasrat hi hay,,aap ke safarNamey ko parh k kuch himmat bandhi hay,,Babu sar Pass ko cross karney koshsh ki himmat nahi kar pa raha tha, safarNmay ki badulat hosakta hay kisdafa cross karjaun( depend upon my friend arrive from Kuwait) ham duno aksar kuch mohimjoiyan kartey hain,,Raye Kot Bridge se Fairy meadow tak ka safar ham pedal kar chukay hain,,Astor ki side se bhi janey ka erada hay,,Allah himmat deyga tu inshaalah ham isdafa jayen ***,, my e-mail address is hafeeznasri60@yahoo.com agar ap munasib samjhain tu rabta kejeye ga telephon pe bat hojaye tu buhut hi achcha hay,,ummeed karta hun rabta karain gey,,Allah hafiz

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    sjamil89 he is the man who is my friend ,,I just saw his post,,we really got lot of information from yours ''SaffarNama''

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    Quote Originally Posted by 125rider View Post
    @Sulaiman75. Amazing, Marvellous, Inspiring. I'm following your posts from the very first day. There are many posts about trips on cars, bikes, bus, Jeep. But you and Rana Sherdill have best journey. Or may be best way to describe.
    I'm also planning a trip on bike to Lalazar.
    I'm asking about the small roads condition like shogran, kiwai, siri, PAYE, saif ul mulook, and lalazar?
    These roads or paved or not?
    Hotels in above described places?
    As you mentioned that lake road is bumpy hard to drive a bike. I've a puncture kit but its so hesitating and time consuming.
    I am certain someone else on PW will be able to provide you with updated information since each year with the run off from the melting snow some of the pavements on the roads are washed off. So what the conditions were last year may not be the same currently.

    As for your concerns of how safe it would be, please note that I took my bike fully loaded with gear and fuel all the way to the top to Saiful Maluk and I don't think there may be roads any worst then those. However, all other roads are fully paved, well contoured around turns, and if a car can make it there a Bike can most certainly do it too.

    Trying to get to Lalazar on bike however, would be inadvisable and it would be best to take a jeep from Naran to Saiful Maluk and then to Lalzar on the same trip. They were working on the road across Babusar Top last year, and I am sure it may not have been completed as yet but most of it may already be done. In any case, you can still cross that part even now since the traffic never stops.

    You may find Hotel rates and conditions on other posts on PW which will give you a much better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafeeznasri View Post
    Janab Sulaiman Saheb,,Assllamualikum,,,
    Jnaab aap ko tu writer hona cheyeh tha ,,Aap ka SaffarNama shoro kia tu jab tak khatm nahi kar lia nahi chora,,go k SaffarNama english me likha hay,,laikin andaz-e-beyan itna shandar tha k me apney aap ko aap k sath samjh raha tha,,yun lag raha tha k me bhi aap k sath hi saffar kar raha hun,,,me apna introduction karwa dun,,mera Nam Abdul Hafeez Khan hay,,Karachi Johur me rehhaish hay,,oil and gas sector my job field..aksar Northern areas me jana hota hay,,lakin motorbike pe un paharun me ghomnay ki hasrat hi hay,,aap ke safarNamey ko parh k kuch himmat bandhi hay,,Babu sar Pass ko cross karney koshsh ki himmat nahi kar pa raha tha, safarNmay ki badulat hosakta hay kisdafa cross karjaun( depend upon my friend arrive from Kuwait) ham duno aksar kuch mohimjoiyan kartey hain,,Raye Kot Bridge se Fairy meadow tak ka safar ham pedal kar chukay hain,,Astor ki side se bhi janey ka erada hay,,Allah himmat deyga tu inshaalah ham isdafa jayen ***,, my e-mail address is hafeeznasri60@yahoo.com agar ap munasib samjhain tu rabta kejeye ga telephon pe bat hojaye tu buhut hi achcha hay,,ummeed karta hun rabta karain gey,,Allah hafiz
    Dear Brother Abdul Hafeez,

    Thank you for enjoying my post. Mera maqsad yehi tha k me Karachi se niklu or Pakistan k doosre kone ko hath laga kar a jaun or vo b bike par. Afsos k me China Border tak nai ja paya q k time kam tha. Asal maqsad ye b tha k Karachi me aksar log North janay se ghabrate han, or onki soch ek had tak sahi bhi ha ajkal k halat ko dekhte hoe. Lekin phir b agar koi himat kare to jese me ne safar ki niyat ki or safar muqamal kya, or b kar sakte han. Me ne costs b bata deen jo muje ikhrajat hue, shayad do logon ko is se b kam ikhrajat ho.

    Jab apko moqa mile to mera second safar nama b par lena.

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    I will most certainly Email you and get in touch with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafeeznasri View Post
    sjamil89 he is the man who is my friend ,,I just saw his post,,we really got lot of information from yours ''SaffarNama''
    I am glad you were able to use some of the information I had mentioned on my safar nama, I too learned a lot from other posts on PW.

    I would love to read your story if you have taken a trip somewhere. Please do tell me the name of the story so I can look for it on PW.

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    @Sulaiman75. Thank you very much for such brief answer. Then where to park my bike in NARAN safely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 125rider View Post
    @Sulaiman75. Thank you very much for such brief answer. Then where to park my bike in NARAN safely?
    In Naran there is a long street of Hotels and restaurants. Whichever hotel you stay at you will park the bike in their private parking but you should chain up the bike as in the tire to the bike frame. Normally, you would wake up early (5:30 am - 60 am) and take a jeep from the hotel to Saiful Maluk and Lalazar. Saiful Maluk in a way is connected to Naran in that the trail leading up the mountain to Saiful Maluk is at the end of the street in Naran. The ride up may take a half hour or more depending on how many other jeeps are going up. In fact you may see some even just walking / hiking up the mountain to the lake.

    Lalazar is further up the road from Naran about 20 minutes drive where you will cross some waterfalls and may stop for pics so the time to reach the trail leading up the mountain to Lalazar may take you a while longer, and then its a rough road through the hills up the mountain for approximately 15 minutes depending on how many jeeps are ahead of you going up or even some that may be coming down.

    My Advice would be to speak to the jeep driver at night since they park their jeeps right inside the same hotel parking, the hotel owners usually own two to three jeeps and have hired drivers fro the summer. The standard rate for a jeep is Rs 2,000 (at least that's what it was last year) and you can book the entire jeep to yourself or share with others at the hotel who wish to come along for the ride to Saiful Maluk. The jeep driver will take up to 7 people I think, so just divide the 2,000 amongst the number of passengers.

    I should add that this rate is for only Saiful Maluk or Lalazar, not both. You may choose to spend more time in Naran so just hike up to Saiful Maluk if you like, it may take you an hour or an hour and a half depending on your fitness level and get the jeep for Lalazar. Now that is if you can't find anyone to share the expenses.

    If you tell someone at the hotel to keep an eye on the bike, they are usually pretty good with that but in all honesty I believe prevention is the best medicine. So just chain it up and your personal belongings will be in the room anyways.

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    Thank you very very much. JazakAllah. The only difficulty in my plan is solved by this post.
    I've a plan to visit abbbotabad, ayubia, nathia gali, murree on return. Is it good? Or Muzafarabad side is better?

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    Sir aap ney long route per gs 150 ki petrol average check ki thi kya ager ki thi to lazmi share karen men gs 150 leney ka soch rha tha mger pakwheels per aksar log kehtey han key woh 60km/hr per bike chalatey han mager average bht kam milti hai

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    Oe hoe...what a going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 125rider View Post
    Thank you very very much. JazakAllah. The only difficulty in my plan is solved by this post.
    I've a plan to visit abbbotabad, ayubia, nathia gali, murree on return. Is it good? Or Muzafarabad side is better?
    To be honest with you, I think if you wish to Muzafarabad it is meaningless unless you go past Muzafarabad to reach Neelum Valley deep inside Kashmir. As I have never gone that direction, if you read from my other post "Bike Tour Karachi - Kashmir, a Futile Attempt" you will see that I planned on a trip to Kashmir but only reached Muzafarabad and had to turn back to Islamabad due to a foot injury.

    I think you will see more natural beauty after passing Abbotabad, Ayubia, Nathia Gali, etc since its all Lush Green, and Developed areas whereas if you go to Muzafarabad its all dry mountains and rough roads still in the process of being paved in some areas.

    This however, is my humble opinion and perhaps other readers can give their own input on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulaiman75 View Post
    To be honest with you, I think if you wish to Muzafarabad it is meaningless unless you go past Muzafarabad to reach Neelum Valley deep inside Kashmir. As I have never gone that direction, if you read from my other post "Bike Tour Karachi - Kashmir, a Futile Attempt" you will see that I planned on a trip to Kashmir but only reached Muzafarabad and had to turn back to Islamabad due to a foot injury.

    I think you will see more natural beauty after passing Abbotabad, Ayubia, Nathia Gali, etc since its all Lush Green, and Developed areas whereas if you go to Muzafarabad its all dry mountains and rough roads still in the process of being paved in some areas.

    This however, is my humble opinion and perhaps other readers can give their own input on this matter.

    Sulaiman
    Thank you. I've a plan in June. I'll contact you again for preparing a bag pack and check lists. Feeling happy with conversation with you.
    Regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohsinwahhab View Post
    Sir aap ney long route per gs 150 ki petrol average check ki thi kya ager ki thi to lazmi share karen men gs 150 leney ka soch rha tha mger pakwheels per aksar log kehtey han key woh 60km/hr per bike chalatey han mager average bht kam milti hai
    The fact is the Suzuki GS 150 is a 150 CC Engine and NOT a 70 CC Engine, so naturally it will consume much more petrol than a 70 CC. Agar ed 70 cc ki bike 50 ya 60 ka average de rahi ha to phir 150 cc ki to kafi kam degi. Lekin 70 cc long drive par munasib nahi ha, over heat hone ka khatra or phir jab ap 70 ya 80 ki speed ko touch karen to because 70 cc ki bike light hoti ha control kam hota ha high speed per.

    150 cc ki bike heavy ha, smooth ha, comfortable ha, or control bhi kafi acha ha high speed per to long drive ke lye behtar ha, or overheat hone ka khatra b nahi ha. Phir ye bike Solid ha or koi damage ka khatra bhi nahi ha.


    There are many factors involved in good gas mileage (petrol average). On the long highway driving I was getting between 40 - 45 kms / Liter.
    On the mountains however, that average went down to 37 Kms / L.

    - If you have two people on the bike PLUS Luggage (back packs) you should expect on highway 37 - 40 Kms per liter
    - If you have two people on the bike Plus Luggage on mountains then it may be 35 kms per Liter.

    - On Highway Driving if you know you will get petrol after every 100 kms then DO NOT Fill Tank, only put Rs 500 worth of Petrol (4.5 L) which should take you approximately 175 - 200 Kms. The reason for not filling the Tank is you have approximately 12.5 Liter Tank and if you fill it up then you are carrying an unnecessary load of an extra 7 to 8 Liters of fuel (just think of carrying 5 Pepsi Bottles of 1.5 L each, and see how heavy they are). The more the weight, the more fuel will be consumed so keep the bike light and fill approximately 4.5 - 5 Liters when you stop after 100 - 150 kms since you should be able to get petrol in most places. Study your map carefully as to where you will be going through and know that all small towns or villages have petrol pumps. Its only the CNG that is a problem in most areas.

    As for the surety of the petrol being clean, no one can give you that guarantee even in the city so its best to go with 4 - 5 Liters and keep filling as you go.

    - Keep your tires properly inflated (rear should be 45 psi). If they are under-inflated you will use more fuel. If over inflated you will have a rough ride and more chance of a tire blow due to the fact the air inside the tire expands when it heats up during the drive.
    - Check your tire pressure at least once a day at any tire shop on the road.
    - Make sure you change oil after every 1,000 kms. Carry one original Suzuki oil and change oil filter every second oil change. Depending on the distance you plan to travel I don't think you will have more than one oil change half way through your trip. The first you will do before leaving for your trip.
    - At every oil change get your Air Filter washed with petrol to remove any dirt so that the engine gets clear air for optimum fuel economy.
    - Keep your cruising speed at 70 - 80 kms per hour. If you go faster you will have more air resistance which will force your bike to burn more fuel to maintain the high speed. Ideal speed should be 75 on an open and straight highway.
    - Wear Aerodynamic clothing, in other words do not wear a jacket that fills up with air when you drive, the more the air resistance the more petrol you will burn.
    - If you bring your speed up to 80 kms on fifth gear your RPM reading should be about 6000 or just under. If you look at the RPM at 6000 then your speed should be just about 80 Kms. This means your tire pressure is fine, oil is clean and your engine is performing at its best.

    Perhaps I have added too much detail but if you maintain your bike, your clothing, and your speed you will have good fuel economy.

    Also read my post on my trip to Kashmir on Bike:

    Bike Tour Karachi - Kashmir, a Futile Attempt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulaiman75 View Post
    The fact is the Suzuki GS 150 is a 150 CC Engine and NOT a 70 CC Engine, so naturally it will consume much more petrol than a 70 CC. Agar ed 70 cc ki bike 50 ya 60 ka average de rahi ha to phir 150 cc ki to kafi kam degi. Lekin 70 cc long drive par munasib nahi ha, over heat hone ka khatra or phir jab ap 70 ya 80 ki speed ko touch karen to because 70 cc ki bike light hoti ha control kam hota ha high speed per.

    150 cc ki bike heavy ha, smooth ha, comfortable ha, or control bhi kafi acha ha high speed per to long drive ke lye behtar ha, or overheat hone ka khatra b nahi ha. Phir ye bike Solid ha or koi damage ka khatra bhi nahi ha.


    There are many factors involved in good gas mileage (petrol average). On the long highway driving I was getting between 40 - 45 kms / Liter.
    On the mountains however, that average went down to 37 Kms / L.

    - If you have two people on the bike PLUS Luggage (back packs) you should expect on highway 37 - 40 Kms per liter
    - If you have two people on the bike Plus Luggage on mountains then it may be 35 kms per Liter.

    - On Highway Driving if you know you will get petrol after every 100 kms then DO NOT Fill Tank, only put Rs 500 worth of Petrol (4.5 L) which should take you approximately 175 - 200 Kms. The reason for not filling the Tank is you have approximately 12.5 Liter Tank and if you fill it up then you are carrying an unnecessary load of an extra 7 to 8 Liters of fuel (just think of carrying 5 Pepsi Bottles of 1.5 L each, and see how heavy they are). The more the weight, the more fuel will be consumed so keep the bike light and fill approximately 4.5 - 5 Liters when you stop after 100 - 150 kms since you should be able to get petrol in most places. Study your map carefully as to where you will be going through and know that all small towns or villages have petrol pumps. Its only the CNG that is a problem in most areas.

    As for the surety of the petrol being clean, no one can give you that guarantee even in the city so its best to go with 4 - 5 Liters and keep filling as you go.

    - Keep your tires properly inflated (rear should be 45 psi). If they are under-inflated you will use more fuel. If over inflated you will have a rough ride and more chance of a tire blow due to the fact the air inside the tire expands when it heats up during the drive.
    - Check your tire pressure at least once a day at any tire shop on the road.
    - Make sure you change oil after every 1,000 kms. Carry one original Suzuki oil and change oil filter every second oil change. Depending on the distance you plan to travel I don't think you will have more than one oil change half way through your trip. The first you will do before leaving for your trip.
    - At every oil change get your Air Filter washed with petrol to remove any dirt so that the engine gets clear air for optimum fuel economy.
    - Keep your cruising speed at 70 - 80 kms per hour. If you go faster you will have more air resistance which will force your bike to burn more fuel to maintain the high speed. Ideal speed should be 75 on an open and straight highway.
    - Wear Aerodynamic clothing, in other words do not wear a jacket that fills up with air when you drive, the more the air resistance the more petrol you will burn.
    - If you bring your speed up to 80 kms on fifth gear your RPM reading should be about 6000 or just under. If you look at the RPM at 6000 then your speed should be just about 80 Kms. This means your tire pressure is fine, oil is clean and your engine is performing at its best.

    Perhaps I have added too much detail but if you maintain your bike, your clothing, and your speed you will have good fuel economy.

    Also read my post on my trip to Kashmir on Bike:

    Bike Tour Karachi - Kashmir, a Futile Attempt

    Sulaiman
    Thank you soo much sir for very detailed answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohsinwahhab View Post
    Thank you soo much sir for very detailed answer
    Oh you are Quite Welcome

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    very nice adventerous and detailed thread. well done sir

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    Great trip indeed. Love it.....................tooooo much.

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