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    Aslam o elikam

    suggestion required of seniors for tour to Khunjrab from Islamabad
    We are 5 ( i . my brother . my wife and my two baby's 5yo 1yo)

    We have 2 bike one RP 200cc and Honda 125
    Our estimated plan is

    14 july 2016 to 23 July 2016

    Day 1 Isb to Balakot via Mansehra
    Day 2 Balakot to Chilas via Naran
    Day 3 Chilas to Deosai via Astor Night stay in camping
    Day 4 Deosai to skardu
    Day 5 Skardu to Gilgit
    Day 6 Gilgit to Sust
    Day 7 Sust to Khunjrab and back to Sust
    Day 8 Sust to chilas
    Day 9 Chilas to Muzafarabad
    Day 10 Muzafarabad to Islamabad

    So this is our plan and m want u r helpful suggestion for this tour





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    First day... Isb to Balakot but via Muree... U will get tired if u opt hasan abdal, haripur route..

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    U need two days in skardu to ride toward Shigar, and second day to khaplu....

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    One day for Hunza or Naltar till naltar bala...

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    Is its safe to stay night in camping at deosai ? And in those days all routs will be open or not ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem.mian1 View Post
    Is its safe to stay night in camping at deosai ? And in those days all routs will be open or not ?

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    Yes.. Routes will b open Nd there is camp site near rangers post... Its safe there

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    Quote Originally Posted by tucknoloji View Post
    Yes.. Routes will b open Nd there is camp site near rangers post... Its safe there

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    Thnks bro . camps available on rent ? Or own camps to brings on site

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    Camp is available on rent near Sheosar lake starting from RS. 1000/head.
    I along with 3 riders caried own single camp of 4 persons from lahore and camped at sheosar camp point. The camp weight was hardly 1-2 kg or so but we had a shelter as in case of rain/sunlight all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c4soft View Post
    Camp is available on rent near Sheosar lake starting from RS. 1000/head.
    I along with 3 riders caried own single camp of 4 persons from lahore and camped at sheosar camp point. The camp weight was hardly 1-2 kg or so but we had a shelter as in case of rain/sunlight all the way.
    Help needs about Tour Isb to Khunjrab - f1bb2b8cc96ea016ec65c908f0301787
    https://goo.gl/photos/egrRdZAcGezQ2SFb6
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    Where from i can buy this campand how much cost ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem.mian1 View Post
    Where from i can buy this campand how much cost ?

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    Available at Naulakha Bazaar Lahore starting from Rs. 1800/- and raises with quality.
    Have an idea of sizes and weight etc by googling.
    http://www.bsapk.com/b/accessories/p...rs2000-karachi

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    Which point are must to see ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem.mian1 View Post
    Aslam o elikam

    suggestion required of seniors for tour to Khunjrab from Islamabad
    We are 5 ( i . my brother . my wife and my two baby's 5yo 1yo)

    We have 2 bike one RP 200cc and Honda 125
    Our estimated plan is

    14 july 2016 to 23 July 2016

    Day 1 Isb to Balakot via Mansehra
    Day 2 Balakot to Chilas via Naran
    Day 3 Chilas to Deosai via Astor Night stay in camping
    Day 4 Deosai to skardu
    Day 5 Skardu to Gilgit
    Day 6 Gilgit to Sust
    Day 7 Sust to Khunjrab and back to Sust
    Day 8 Sust to chilas
    Day 9 Chilas to Muzafarabad
    Day 10 Muzafarabad to Islamabad

    So this is our plan and m want u r helpful suggestion for this tour





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    Dear Mr. Azeem,
    I am happy that you have planned a motorbike tour with your family which is a very brave decision. And I wish you all the best in advance. I am writing down my suggestions according to my experience so you could have some help from it.
    You mentioned your babies are with you, this tour seems hectic for them. There is a lot of travelling and deosai off road is tough. As you have plan to camp a night at Deosai and I strictly recommend you not to take your 1 year old baby there because oxygen level drops there. Even adult person can’t take breath easily. Night stay at Deosai with a 1 year old baby is like putting his life on risk. Please don’t think I am discouraging you. Deosai night is so cold and if there is rain then you are in a survival situation. In case of any emergency with kids, you can’t find any help miles away.
    Below is my feedback according to your route plan:

    Day 1 Isb to Balakot via Mansehra
    Achievable distance. Go via Ayubia. Its more attractive route than Mansehra.

    Day 2 Balakot to Chilas via Naran
    Achievable distance but pack your kids with warm cloths after Naran onward because as you get height towards Babusar pass, temperature starts dropping.
    (On the way you will see Lulusar Lake and Babusar Pass. You can visit Saif-ul-Malook lake but then you won’t be able to reach Chillas)

    Day 3 Chilas to Deosai via Astor Night stay in camping
    Possible to achieve this distance if you start your travelling early in the morning from Chillas. By doing this, you can have more time for short stays. Also from KKH to Deosai, the road is not good. You can ride at max 40 to 50 speed.
    (If you have time then you can visit Rama Lake.)

    Day 4 Deosai to skardu
    Distance is short but route till Sadpara Lake is very tough.
    (On the way to Skardu you will see Sadpara Lake. In Skardu, you required one full day to visit two places. Skardu Desert & Shangrila Resort. If you want to visit Khaplu and Manthokha water fall, then you will require another full day.)

    Day 5 Skardu to Gilgit
    Achievable distance. Skardu to KKH, the road is narrow and not very good but one can ride at 60 to 70kmph. It’s a long barren road.

    Day 6 Gilgit to Sust
    Since Ataabad lake road is open now so from Gilgit to Sust can be achieve easily. Road is good, environment, weather is good.
    (On the way to Sust, you will see Rakaposhi Mountain, Sacred rocks, Hunza Vally, Attabad lake & Passu cones. If you want to explore Hunza, you need time. Naltar Lake is a good place to visit but It’s a full day activity.)

    Day 7 Sust to Khunjrab and back to Sust
    Good distance for one day. It also a cold winds area so pack yourself before travelling ahead.

    Day 8 Sust to chilas
    It’s a bit long distance but because road is good. It is achievable distance.

    Day 9 Chilas to Muzafarabad
    From Chillas till Muzzafarabad can be tough because Gari Habib Ullah road is not very good. And I think it will be dark before you reach Muzzafarabad.

    Day 10 Muzafarabad to Islamabad
    Achievable distance.

    I hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizwan_mir View Post
    Dear Mr. Azeem,
    I am happy that you have planned a motorbike tour with your family which is a very brave decision. And I wish you all the best in advance. I am writing down my suggestions according to my experience so you could have some help from it.
    You mentioned your babies are with you, this tour seems hectic for them. There is a lot of travelling and deosai off road is tough. As you have plan to camp a night at Deosai and I strictly recommend you not to take your 1 year old baby there because oxygen level drops there. Even adult person can?t take breath easily. Night stay at Deosai with a 1 year old baby is like putting his life on risk. Please don?t think I am discouraging you. Deosai night is so cold and if there is rain then you are in a survival situation. In case of any emergency with kids, you can?t find any help miles away.
    Below is my feedback according to your route plan:

    Day 1 Isb to Balakot via Mansehra
    Achievable distance. Go via Ayubia. Its more attractive route than Mansehra.

    Day 2 Balakot to Chilas via Naran
    Achievable distance but pack your kids with warm cloths after Naran onward because as you get height towards Babusar pass, temperature starts dropping.
    (On the way you will see Lulusar Lake and Babusar Pass. You can visit Saif-ul-Malook lake but then you won?t be able to reach Chillas)

    Day 3 Chilas to Deosai via Astor Night stay in camping
    Possible to achieve this distance if you start your travelling early in the morning from Chillas. By doing this, you can have more time for short stays. Also from KKH to Deosai, the road is not good. You can ride at max 40 to 50 speed.
    (If you have time then you can visit Rama Lake.)

    Day 4 Deosai to skardu
    Distance is short but route till Sadpara Lake is very tough.
    (On the way to Skardu you will see Sadpara Lake. In Skardu, you required one full day to visit two places. Skardu Desert & Shangrila Resort. If you want to visit Khaplu and Manthokha water fall, then you will require another full day.)

    Day 5 Skardu to Gilgit
    Achievable distance. Skardu to KKH, the road is narrow and not very good but one can ride at 60 to 70kmph. It?s a long barren road.

    Day 6 Gilgit to Sust
    Since Ataabad lake road is open now so from Gilgit to Sust can be achieve easily. Road is good, environment, weather is good.
    (On the way to Sust, you will see Rakaposhi Mountain, Sacred rocks, Hunza Vally, Attabad lake & Passu cones. If you want to explore Hunza, you need time. Naltar Lake is a good place to visit but It?s a full day activity.)

    Day 7 Sust to Khunjrab and back to Sust
    Good distance for one day. It also a cold winds area so pack yourself before travelling ahead.

    Day 8 Sust to chilas
    It?s a bit long distance but because road is good. It is achievable distance.

    Day 9 Chilas to Muzafarabad
    From Chillas till Muzzafarabad can be tough because Gari Habib Ullah road is not very good. And I think it will be dark before you reach Muzzafarabad.

    Day 10 Muzafarabad to Islamabad
    Achievable distance.

    I hope it helps.
    Thanks Mr. Rizwan

    Its really good explanation .i can change my plan of deosai night stay cz m not want to take any risk about my kid's so what's u r suggestion for Day 3 chillas to .................. .?

    Can i stay in astore and next day ride to skardu via Deosai ? Or any other way to plan ?

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    Yes, its better to stay astore and if you get time then visit rama lake. And next day ride till skardu.


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    Can i face any other some serious thing for kid's at any other place

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizwan_mir View Post
    Yes, its better to stay astore and if you get time then visit rama lake. And next day ride till skardu.


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    At Astor hotels available easily ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem.mian1 View Post
    At Astor hotels available easily ?

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    List of hotels at Astore. Call them for details and availability:
    http://www.vepakistan.com/hotels/astoreHotels.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeem.mian1 View Post
    Can i face any other some serious thing for kid's at any other place

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    Mostly weather, tiredness and high altitude areas with thing oxygen affect on kids. And in your tour just two areas can have extreme weather conditions (mostly in night time) for kids which is Deosai and Khunjerab.

    Keep a cushion for kids to sit on tank. Also have baby carriage belt because most of the time they sleep while sitting due to continuous air from front.

    From abbottabad onward till lulusar lake do not sit your kids on the tank. There are a lot of honey producing areas. Because of that honey bees fly across the road.


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    Really nice and practical suggestions by Mr. Rizwan
    i am also planning the same tour in almost same days
    have you evaluated rains in your planning??
    because after mid july rainy season starts and it can create serious trouble..
    and
    we will first visit khunjerab and then on our way back we will cover deosai and sakardu
    what do you think is the better option first deosai or first khanjerab??
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    Quote Originally Posted by naumananjum View Post
    Really nice and practical suggestions by Mr. Rizwan
    i am also planning the same tour in almost same days
    have you evaluated rains in your planning??
    because after mid july rainy season starts and it can create serious trouble..
    and
    we will first visit khunjerab and then on our way back we will cover deosai and sakardu
    what do you think is the better option first deosai or first khanjerab??
    According to route, I think first should be Deosai. It is also easy to climb towards Deosai from Astore than Skardu.

    If you have any authentic weather forecast app then you should check conditions first otherwise no one knows what weather you are going to face ahead. Adult feels great when it rain but YES for child it won't be so exciting because of dropping temperature.

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