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    Default Engine Swap in Nissan Sunny 1991 (B13)

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    Thread update: Swapped the engine with EFI one after wasting double the money on overhaul. Details of swap from page-2

    Guys I recently got a Nissan Sunny 1991. Currently it has a carby 1300cc engine, which frequently gives bluish white smoke, particularly, during start ups. Its very generous in eating up the engine oil.

    Many have suggested to go for 16 valve twin cam EFI engine. One guy told me that he visited Ahata Mithu a few months ago and got 12 valve engine swapped for 17k, while 16 valve engine was available for around 24K.

    Would appreciate if someone can guide me about best engine (I prefer EFI), the prices, the best place to get engine and best workshops to get the Nissan swaps done.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    Let's see if i can sort out these issues with their help. I changed the power oil pipe and filled the power oil, but its still hard.

    About clutch, let me find their stance first. As he suggested that it is only issue of some settings and they'll fix it easily. That also used to happen with E13 in place after I left the mechanic. Only the throttle cable issue.

    I felt the noise and hard clutch issue right when i first drove it, but it was already 100PM Sunday, and I went back home.

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    do post up some day light pictures of ECU wiring where it is connected to the ECU. I hope it is not fixed with body beyond the console. Do show me the grip which is connecting the ECU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by star2 View Post
    You might have smoked your power pump boy
    WOW. So how much money smoked in the form of this power pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by star2 View Post
    do post up some day light pictures of ECU wiring where it is connected to the ECU. I hope it is not fixed with body beyond the console. Do show me the grip which is connecting the ECU.
    Alright, Will take the photo this afternoon and post later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    Even bought a high end multimeter capable of measuring 100+ DC Amp. That is lying packed in my room
    I Am Drooling Just Sitting Here For This Meter.....!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectra View Post
    And Mr. dumb u wired a GA15 yourself and properly. I should be the one asking things about bijli from you. I am hands on and experienced with engines and mechanicals but damn afraid from bijli stuff and my luck always run out with bijli. That feeling of being desupported on bijli with Ghuncha gone still haunts me.
    Phajee Get Out Of Closet And Chaak De Phattay Darne Ka Nai....!

    This Reminds Me Of My 1st EFi Project......Total Firewall Cut Wiring Of My Bees Waaal (20v) ....And ECU With Grips From Other ECU....Not EVer Color Coding Matched LOL....!

    It Takes Me A Whole 2 Weeks + To Figure Out Only Wires And 2 3 More To Make Joints And Solder Each And Every Of Them.....!!

    Was Stucked On Many Places And Have To Dig Deep To Get And IT Works Out On Very 1st Try...!

    Bijlii Haunts ARe Always There But You Have To Keep Your Morals High With Sane Mind And Nothing Gonna Hurt..

    I Taken Whole Swap For Granted As I Was Provided With ECU Which Was Rare Find That Time And Cost 12k Rs
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    Bhai i am an accountant by profession. Do not forget that. DIYs and pangas are a hobby but my mind work best with mechanical stuff. I get hang of it easily. Bijli is not my cup of tea. Best i can do is to put in after maket gauges or try to figure out why the 74 corolla is not showing the IGN light ut charging properly
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    WOW. So how much money smoked in the form of this power pump?

    Get You Steering Rack Inspected 1st For Leaks And Then Lines.....!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SER_GTR View Post
    I Am Drooling Just Sitting Here For This Meter.....!!
    Got it for Rs. 3000/- when I was pissed off at the UPS not working in May-June.

    Some blamed UPS, while I knew batteries were the culprit.

    In the end, I proved my point with this meter. Then calculated the whole AC load and converted to DC Amps and hours, got 2 batteries of 85AH each when dumb guys suggested 2x100Ah minimum, and see, those are still going strong great backup.

    The plain AC measuring ones were available for Rs. 500-600, while those capable of measuring upto 10A DC ranged around Rs. 1000.

    The reason for selecting this was that I wanted to diagnose car starting system, where current during start may go up to a huge value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    I won't be weeping, coz pretty satisfied with it at the moment. 18 would be like killing a bee with a rocket launcher

    Seriously, when I'm on a long route, at times, I can't control the blood, tested many times. Drive with full throttle. My younger brother who has traveled with me a few times knows this, and he strongly opposed the 18 as soon as he learned about it. So was my dad's opinion. And I had my mind clear enough when I looked at 18 buddy and didn't find anything teasing in my heart

    I think enough of this 15 vs 18 now. If star2 is not a road rasher like me, and some suspension + brakes upgrade is no problem for him, he may go for that 18 one.
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    Engine Swap in Nissan Sunny 1991 B13 -1291864

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    Complete uncut wiring for another QG18 swap in progress at Yousaf's workshop.
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    Agreed. Auto companies don't fit 5000cc engines into normal Sedan's for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilalahm View Post
    Engine Swap in Nissan Sunny 1991 B13 -1291864

    That's one hell of a clean wiring.... Those are the plugs in white, one of them goes to the dashboard, its wires needs to be connected separately one by one
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    Quote Originally Posted by SER_GTR View Post
    ^^ Phajee OLD SKOOL Se Thora Bahar Aakey Dekhein..... Mazee Ke Cheez Ha....Same Debit/Credit And Balance Sheet Wala Maza Ata Ha When U Got Stuck
    OK - next time im in Karachi and get some stupid CAN BUS problem or some other german car wiring issue, i'll let you attack it. Its serious fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    Got it for Rs. 3000/- when I was pissed off at the UPS not working in May-June.

    Some blamed UPS, while I knew batteries were the culprit.

    In the end, I proved my point with this meter. Then calculated the whole AC load and converted to DC Amps and hours, got 2 batteries of 85AH each when dumb guys suggested 2x100Ah minimum, and see, those are still going strong great backup.

    The plain AC measuring ones were available for Rs. 500-600, while those capable of measuring upto 10A DC ranged around Rs. 1000.

    The reason for selecting this was that I wanted to diagnose car starting system, where current during start may go up to a huge value.
    I have had quite some tussles with UPS vendors blaming the battery and battery vendors blaming the UPS. When I got hold of both of them in one place I told them what I want and if they want to consult me for stupid issues I pointed out before I'll discount their bill by the hour.

    Problems got resolved real quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    I have had quite some tussles with UPS vendors blaming the battery and battery vendors blaming the UPS. When I got hold of both of them in one place I told them what I want and if they want to consult me for stupid issues I pointed out before I'll discount their bill by the hour.

    Problems got resolved real quick.
    Here is what those dumb guys have to say:

    5 fans - 5 lights: 2 batteries of 100Ah each.

    I decided to calculate the actual load of all fans. And i was surprised by the results.

    1 Pak Fan = 60W, and it used to give highest air flow.

    2 Sufi fans = 95-100W each, with poor air

    1 Pak fan of 80's probably = 80W with reasonable air flow.

    I calculated the impact of those idiot Sufi fans on my bills, and estimated that if i replace the fans with new Pak fan ones, they would recover their cost in maybe 2-3 years.

    "Mehnga roey 1 bar, sasta roey bar bar"


    Going with the calculations, I estimated that even 2 batteries of 60Ah would be sufficient, provided I discharge the batteries more. Those lead acid batteries don't last more than one year, anyways.

    2 more fans connected to the system, and 85Ah ones (AGS brand) took the load of 6 fans and 8 lights with no backup problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    Here is what those dumb guys have to say:

    5 fans - 5 lights: 2 batteries of 100Ah each.

    I decided to calculate the actual load of all fans. And i was surprised by the results.

    1 Pak Fan = 60W, and it used to give highest air flow.

    2 Sufi fans = 95-100W each, with poor air

    1 Pak fan of 80's probably = 80W with reasonable air flow.

    I calculated the impact of those idiot Sufi fans on my bills, and estimated that if i replace the fans with new Pak fan ones, they would recover their cost in maybe 2-3 years.

    "Mehnga roey 1 bar, sasta roey bar bar"


    Going with the calculations, I estimated that even 2 batteries of 60Ah would be sufficient, provided I discharge the batteries more. Those lead acid batteries don't last more than one year, anyways.

    2 more fans connected to the system, and 85Ah ones (AGS brand) took the load of 6 fans and 8 lights with no backup problems.

    Where is this thread going

    Where is QG15 gone ??
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