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    Default Engine Swap in Nissan Sunny 1991 (B13)

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    Thread update: Swapped the engine with EFI one after wasting double the money on overhaul. Details of swap from page-2

    Guys I recently got a Nissan Sunny 1991. Currently it has a carby 1300cc engine, which frequently gives bluish white smoke, particularly, during start ups. Its very generous in eating up the engine oil.

    Many have suggested to go for 16 valve twin cam EFI engine. One guy told me that he visited Ahata Mithu a few months ago and got 12 valve engine swapped for 17k, while 16 valve engine was available for around 24K.

    Would appreciate if someone can guide me about best engine (I prefer EFI), the prices, the best place to get engine and best workshops to get the Nissan swaps done.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectra View Post
    Does not look like it. Maybe it has another cable attachent to it which is missing.
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    Yes, I guess it should be OBD-II with 16 ports. This one has got 4 pins.

    I also tried the code scanning method through clutch. And as I expected, it didn't work!!!
    you guys are too much

    This is the plug which carries "accessory wires" connections for dash, meter, and other things from the ECU, it may also containt 12+V current containing wires going to the ECU. It is the plug you need to wire up to get the engine running as it should be. In an N16, you will find the female connector for it mounted on the dashboard or wall somewhere.
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    hope at least you understand what i am saying.
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    ^^^^^ in this plug will be your "start signal" "on signal" and "Off signal" from key inserter and this jack will also contain your lovely fuel pump relay wires okay
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    Fuel gauge calibration s hould be same for B13 and B14.i beleive even N16 will have similiar ones. No point in making changes for a function whicih is working fine. But knowing the Renualt effects on Nissan. N16 can be different. It has star L keys here and there unlike previous models so that one can be a no go but B chassis cars should have these similarities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    I intend to confirm that whatever signal is at the output of fuel tank is getting to the input of meter cluster.

    Btw, B14 meter can be installed without any cutting etc. or not??? DIY of mapping the outputs of B13 wiring to B14 meter can be done with some effort
    B14 meter will not work with it. N16 meter will. Here is an idea between both meters, have a look please.

    Above one is for B13 and Below one is for N16

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    Quote Originally Posted by star2 View Post
    you guys are too much

    This is the plug which carries "accessory wires" connections for dash, meter, and other things from the ECU, it may also containt 12+V current containing wires going to the ECU. It is the plug you need to wire up to get the engine running as it should be. In an N16, you will find the female connector for it mounted on the dashboard or wall somewhere.
    @spectra
    hope at least you understand what i am saying.
    You guyes expect me to answer bijli questions and keep on asking. I can only make guesses. I know you know these things better then me but just do not want to open up and share here
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    Quote Originally Posted by star2 View Post
    B14 meter will not work with it. N16 meter will. Here is an idea between both meters, have a look please.

    Above one is for B13 and Below one is for N16

    Engine Swap in Nissan Sunny 1991 B13 -1294568
    Uncle he is aksing about fuel gauge part only. Poora meter nahin badal raha abhi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectra View Post
    Fuel gauge calibration s hould be same for B13 and B14.i beleive even N16 will have similiar ones. No point in making changes for a function whicih is working fine. But knowing the Renualt effects on Nissan. N16 can be different. It has star L keys here and there unlike previous models so that one can be a no go but B chassis cars should have these similarities.
    who will decrypt the persian you have just spoken can't u be comprehensive ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    I intend to confirm that whatever signal is at the output of fuel tank is getting to the input of meter cluster.

    Btw, B14 meter can be installed without any cutting etc. or not??? DIY of mapping the outputs of B13 wiring to B14 meter can be done with some effort
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    Uncle he is aksing about fuel gauge part only. Poora meter nahin badal raha abhi.
    @spectra

    Look what he is trying to do Mapping same thing with same. That's why i humbly told him that if he has to swap things, it should be N16 not B14 he tends to swap with his B13 meter/wiring/harness/whatever he would like. Hope you get it clear now.
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    I plan to change the whole cluster, as both fuel and heat gauges are not reliable, and I also want RPM meter.

    N16 doesn't seem to be bolt on

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    Uncle jee. Ever wondered why sunny models always had Bchassis code bt 2004 onwards it is called N16? That is because N was always the code for Pulsar and not sunny. N16 is basically a rebadged pulsar. Pulsar was intended for different markets so had slight differences in mechanicals and electricals. how much volts are produced in tank and sent to the gauge in speedometer should be similiar even for these varrying models.
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    In case of whole meter swap N16 one cannot be bolt on. but can be fitted with some expertise. Better do it yourself. I have seen these fitted in B13 and B14 as well. If u r going through this much pain then better get whole dashboard wiring along with meter for QG 18 including the diagnostic port.
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    I suggest to use internals of N16 meter snd fit them in B13 cluster.
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    And this is in case I'm unable to get the B13 one. The guy at Chah-e-Sultan told me that meters will be available in 12-15 days. He also said the stupid thing that B13 meters with RPM are not reliable and burn very soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectra View Post
    In case of whole meter swap N16 one cannot be bolt on. but can be fitted with some expertise. Better do it yourself. I have seen these fitted in B13 and B14 as well. If u r going through this much pain then better get whole dashboard wiring along with meter for QG 18 including the diagnostic port.
    and that wiring costs you 20k
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    besides that dashboard wiring will not serve purpose for instrument panel in B13. it is completely different from N16. N16 has "tuccchhhhhhh" system .... getting me @spectra ????
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    About the hydraulic clutch, I did face the clutch wire braking issue with the GA15 motor also when I had the wire one and it was pretty hard at that time even. The pressure and clutch plate sizes for the tranny which came with the QG18 are pretty huge (when I had to replace the clutch plate the one which matched was for a bluebird 4X4 version) and operating it from a wire based mechanism would have been an issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    And this is in case I'm unable to get the B13 one. The guy at Chah-e-Sultan told me that meters will be available in 12-15 days. He also said the stupid thing that B13 meters with RPM are not reliable and burn very soon
    He is right actually but they burn because they are not wired properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    And this is in case I'm unable to get the B13 one. The guy at Chah-e-Sultan told me that meters will be available in 12-15 days. He also said the stupid thing that B13 meters with RPM are not reliable and burn very soon
    Well what the poor guy knows about it is not correct. Its one hell of a reliable meter and you can save all the hassle by making that little circuit @Ghuncha did which I am unable to understand at the moment, because I was not aware of it back then when he did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by star2 View Post
    besides that dashboard wiring will not serve purpose for instrument panel in B13. it is completely different from N16. N16 has "tuccchhhhhhh" system .... getting me @spectra ????
    I am out of thie bijli discussion now. No more input from me. You should tell these things yourself and not on demand only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by star2 View Post
    and that wiring costs you 20k
    That B13 which you are building has already eaten a lot of money. Why not spend it wisely for a change?
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