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    Default Daewoo Racer/Cielo Fan Club

    Dear All,

    I am an owner of Daewoo Racer since 1995. It has proven to be a very comfortable and economical car throughout this period. It used to give an average of 13Km/L within city and ~15Km/L on long drives. Here are some pictures:


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    I would recommend buying this car who want a better car at low budgets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by z0k View Post
    I know :p theres a difference in electronic power steering and power steering.. if im not wrong
    Other one is hydraulic. Which u qoute power steering. Rest EPS left. #information..

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    Quote Originally Posted by seismic View Post
    @test driver and all,

    My car cooling fan works at two speed mode even with a/c on it initially work at low speed. Fan keep running for some time even if i switch off the a/c. Is this fan operation normal ? if not then where is the defect ?
    A/C compressor signal switch is faulty. On hard pressing the pedal while standing still, compressor disengages but not in case the car is moving. Is there any good solution for disengagement function without installing a/c signal switch ?
    Sorry for the late reply!

    The cooling fan is working fine with AC. Regarding the clutch function, it depends on the manifold pressure (hi pressure - clutch disengage). To check the function during car movement, you can press the accelerator pedal to the floor abruptly. In normal running condition, the clutch will disengage when moving in a higher gear where lower gear is needed and the accelerator is pressed to gain momentum instead of downshifting. Technically, the clutch is disengaged when the MAP readings goes higher than 3.5 volts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeeshan213 View Post
    A.o.A...Test Driver and other Daewoo Experts..........is it possible to convert daewoo simple steering into electric power steering........need sugestions.....thank you.....
    WAS

    Of-course it is possible, I have seen a Daewoo Racer having EPS installed, but for that the steering column needs to be cut for the installation. Pros are of-course no belt-pump-oil issues, no change of steering rack and noiseless operation. Cons are lack of steering feel (as in case of any EPS system), sensor calibration issues and in case of alteration "safety compromise". I would not suggest installation of EPS in any car unless someone gets complete factory setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamando View Post
    Guys any info regarding cooling coil of daewoo
    I am looking for original new not kabli one ....
    In Market i could find the china coil
    Do not how reliable is it ....
    You can ask Javaid Sons (051-2260121) at G-9 regarding the availability of new cooling coil for Daewoo. I have heard good about "Success" brand. You can also contact Nadeem Car AC (0300-5511708) at G-10 for alternatives.
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    Aoa
    i was reading an article on pakwheels by a guy who owns 1988 toyota corolla. n he had heating issues related to brakes n once he changed the master brake cylinder and the issue got resolved. i wanted to ask the master brake cylinder in my woo is of toyota corolla n that too kabli n was changed 2 to 3 yrs back. my car brakes r also very lax meaning after the car heats up or runs for a while i have to press the pedal all the way to the bottom to apply brakes..car is not heating up but pick gets reduced ....i also changed both front discs n back ones 3 or 4 months back. should i look into it aswell master brake cylinder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guybwp View Post
    Aoa
    i was reading an article on pakwheels by a guy who owns 1988 toyota corolla. n he had heating issues related to brakes n once he changed the master brake cylinder and the issue got resolved. i wanted to ask the master brake cylinder in my woo is of toyota corolla n that too kabli n was changed 2 to 3 yrs back. my car brakes r also very lax meaning after the car heats up or runs for a while i have to press the pedal all the way to the bottom to apply brakes..car is not heating up but pick gets reduced ....i also changed both front discs n back ones 3 or 4 months back. should i look into it aswell master brake cylinder?
    WAS,

    The issue with Daewoo Racer is not with the master-cylinder/servo, but the brake calipers. The brake calipers are designed in such a way that they lose efficiency when they gets hot, the rubber parts on the caliper pins swells and as a result the calipers get jammed. The best solution to this problem is regular inspection brake calipers and timely replacement of worn out rubber parts (also called caliper kit). Usually you should get them checked during each oil change (at-least checking for proper movement of calipers)
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    bro . nadeem doen't do work on stock compressor of woo , he suggested me to go to faqer husain for a/c job. and i wanted to know about this person is performs the job alright?
    .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by overspeed111 View Post
    bro . nadeem doen't do work on stock compressor of woo , he suggested me to go to faqer husain for a/c job. and i wanted to know about this person is performs the job alright?
    Yes, he is better than majority of Daewoo mechanics!
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    for daewoo digital meter ...
    any modification required ?

    what will be approx cost of unit + mods if any

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamando View Post
    for daewoo digital meter ...
    any modification required ?

    what will be approx cost of unit + mods if any
    Just few connections required at the data connector end by splicing the wires from the original connector while few wires requires re-routing for the main connector. The meter is not easily available these days, and will cost around Rs.10-12K if you mange to find one while electrician (only Daewoo's expert) will take around Rs.1-1.5K. If the VSS is not working in your car, add Rs.1.5-2K for that otherwise the speedometer will not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testdriver View Post
    WAS

    Of-course it is possible, I have seen a Daewoo Racer having EPS installed, but for that the steering column needs to be cut for the installation. Pros are of-course no belt-pump-oil issues, no change of steering rack and noiseless operation. Cons are lack of steering feel (as in case of any EPS system), sensor calibration issues and in case of alteration "safety compromise". I would not suggest installation of EPS in any car unless someone gets complete factory setup.


    Thank You Adnan Bhai,,,,,,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by testdriver View Post
    WAS,

    The issue with Daewoo Racer is not with the master-cylinder/servo, but the brake calipers. The brake calipers are designed in such a way that they lose efficiency when they gets hot, the rubber parts on the caliper pins swells and as a result the calipers get jammed. The best solution to this problem is regular inspection brake calipers and timely replacement of worn out rubber parts (also called caliper kit). Usually you should get them checked during each oil change (at-least checking for proper movement of calipers)
    The problem was not a fault of design - the problem was mechanics using petroleum grease on the slide pins with swells the rubber parts and also allows water to mix with grease. You are supposed to use a silicone grease on them - and this car being General Motors they even have a better version, silicone grease with teflon added to it. Silicone grease wont be washed away from water and if you check it years later it will still be wet n fresh.

    By rule of thumb, brake fluid flush is mandatory every 12 months with any off the counter brake fluid conforming to US DOT3 Standard. If you dont then the system will rust internally
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    The cooling fan on a daewoo racer works on slow speed with A/C function and only switches to high when the system pressure goes high, its like that in every GM car - infact every other manufacturer is like that too if they utilise multi speed fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilskreed View Post
    @Kamando O.K new compresoor/new seals.DO i need a new condensor and double pipe aswell or i can get them flushed?
    If they are ok just flush them ...
    but in my case recently cooling coil went down(usually my compressor or double pipe used to get leak )
    Old parts do fail randomly ....
    New one are more reliable ...

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    Selling Urgent !!
    Its in very good condition and clean !
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    Used Daewoo Racer 1993 Car for sale in Karachi - 992952 | PakWheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    The problem was not a fault of design - the problem was mechanics using petroleum grease on the slide pins with swells the rubber parts and also allows water to mix with grease. You are supposed to use a silicone grease on them - and this car being General Motors they even have a better version, silicone grease with teflon added to it. Silicone grease wont be washed away from water and if you check it years later it will still be wet n fresh.

    By rule of thumb, brake fluid flush is mandatory every 12 months with any off the counter brake fluid conforming to US DOT3 Standard. If you dont then the system will rust internally
    Sir, if you could explain this a little bit more in lay man terms to 'noobs' like me .. What fluids to get, and how to convince mechanics to apply these. You may unfold the decades long issue for daewoo's brake problems .. Your help will be highly appreciated.

    Thanks.

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    There is some problem with my daewoo brakes first it belonged to my brother
    It's brake pedal is very hard corolla servo is installed
    Mechanic has tried to resolve the issue by changing the servo by a daewoo racer but problem still persist. According to my brother he changed the front wheel brake caliper with daewoo racer before these were daewoo Cielo
    Now I have the same old corolla servo
    What could be the issue. Is its servo needs to be changed. Or any other issue.
    I have checked the vacume pipe it's also intact and fine.
    Due to this issue I can't move out side with more than 40 km/hr as on higher speed Its brake don't work. plzzzzzz suggest some solution.
    Thankx

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    Quote Originally Posted by dani132 View Post
    A-o-a
    There is some problem with my daewoo brakes first it belonged to my brother
    It's brake pedal is very hard corolla servo is installed
    Mechanic has tried to resolve the issue by changing the servo by a daewoo racer but problem still persist. According to my brother he changed the front wheel brake caliper with daewoo racer before these were daewoo Cielo
    Now I have the same old corolla servo
    What could be the issue. Is its servo needs to be changed. Or any other issue.
    I have checked the vacume pipe it's also intact and fine.
    Due to this issue I can't move out side with more than 40 km/hr as on higher speed Its brake don't work. plzzzzzz suggest some solution.
    Thankx

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    Did the problem start after changing the calipers? The Cielo's strut assembly has different mount points for calipers and has a ventilated rotors setup. If any alteration has been made to the assembly, replace them with the original Racer's assembly. If this is not the case, the problem could be with the no-return valve in the vacuum pipe or it is installed the other way round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testdriver View Post
    WAS

    Did the problem start after changing the calipers? The Cielo's strut assembly has different mount points for calipers and has a ventilated rotors setup. If any alteration has been made to the assembly, replace them with the original Racer's assembly. If this is not the case, the problem could be with the no-return valve in the vacuum pipe or it is installed the other way round.
    At the moment racer original assembly is installed.
    When brake is pressed only left rear wheel brake works but pedal is hard.

    How to check the 2nd option?
    Thankx for reply.

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