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    Default @Xulfiqar Sb: Bought c180 98 model. Need help with maintenance/repair.

    @Xulfiqar Sb:
    I have seen lots of threads and lots of posts and am deeply impressed by your knowledge of vehicles. I am trying to browse through but things are so spread about that it is confusion. Moreover, perhaps every case is different and need specialized help, at least for the first time.

    This Monday, I bought a c180 98, Elegance Model with 93K miles (allegedly) on the odo. In driving for these 3 days I have jotted up a list of my observations, some serious, I believe. I need your expert advice on it. Here is the list of serious observations:

    [Post Edited with problems listed as solved/unsolved. The details of how a problem was solved is spread all over the many pages and posts. Please delve into the thread for details.]

    SOLVED PROBLEMS WITH CAUSES AND REMEDIES:
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    1. Vibration in D, Cause: One engine mount was cut, replaced.
    2. Temp gauge does not get to half point, Cause: T-stat valve was jammed, replaced.
    3. Fluids replaced = Engine Oil and Transmission oil.
    4. Vibration in steering at all speeds, Causes: Mountings (changed), warped rotors, machined, balancing and alignment done. New steering shock installed.
    5. Rear Left Window does not close with button on door, Cause: Button faulty, replaced.
    6. Random HVAC blower speed: Ordered HVAC control unit from eBay. Fitted and working fine. No more issue.
    7. Broken Cruise Control: Ordered from eBay. Fitted and working fine.
    8. SRS AIRBAG Warning Light in Dash, Cause: Star scan tool (at Papu ustad, Pindi) told about two crash sensors (one under each front seat) to be faulty (or their connection is faulty). Shop gave a price of Rs.7,000 for 2 but I see that used are cheaply available on eBay. Would order two soon.
    9. Left handbrake shoe friction sound. I fitted new handbrake shoes and thought it needed adjustment. However, it turned out, after 5 tries at it, that the lug nuts on the wheels were of slightly varying length. The longer ones would brush on the handbrake clip that expands the mechanism. Older one was damaged. Got it replaced. Sound started coming after few days. I swapped some lug nuts from other wheels. It is peace ever since!
    10. Intermittent Windows -- Passenger and Driver side windows would not operate after few days of reset in any order. I suspected the rear-left window control module, opened the door cover to find that there is no window control module there! So this must not be the cause.
    Recently, I cleaned all the electric ground points in the vehicle. The issue of intermittent windows had reduced a great deal. More so, because before starting the vehicle, I operate all windows (first point in ignition).
    11. COOLANT VANISHING -- I needed to add 1 L in like 2 weeks (driving 300 miles). The cause was a leaky radiator. In summers the problem increased until I saw coolant drops beneath an idling car. Previous radiator was corroded with use of wrong coolant. Radiator replaced with a good condition exact part (Behr) from a half-cut. Coolant used would definitely be as per spec or MB.

    UNSOLVED PROBLEMS that are being debugged:
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    12. Relay clicking type sound behind key:
    The sound can start anytime but luckily not too often. Usually in peaceful driving it would be calm. Sometimes when I take some action like press brake pedal, turn on indicator, it will start clicking. I can feel the throbbing when I touch the key. Would start and stop itself.
    I have found out that whenever that clicking sound is heard, horn won't blow. Conversely when the horn does not blow, there are chances of those clicking sounds. When the horn blows, there won't be any clicking sound in that drive. Still trying to solicit the cause in a deterministic way.
    13. Sudden Downshift Jerk: Sometimes after driving the vehicle for a long time, like one hour, when slowing down because of mild braking (to a speed for which 1st gear may be needed) the car shifts into 1st gear very hardly.
    Kindly please advise. I am a keeper since I am a busy person. The car I was driving before this is with me for 9 years. For once, I want this car to be in a state that I know how things are. Thank you in anticipation and sorry for trouble.

    @Xulfiqar Sb Bought c180 98 model my 1st Merc Help wi startup maintenancerepair -1636367

    PS: Car is with me for 6 months now, with 99,000 miles on Odo. (21 May, 2016)
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    @CosmicSynergy:
    Nothing much happening on car front since it is summers and there is no job like teaching in summers!
    Car is mainly not used a lot and wont be used much until next year since I have a friend's car who has gone abroad and I recently swapped its engine. So all mechanicy is being done on it.

    I ordered few things from AutohausAZ.com USA and they have arrived. Mainly the two o-rings on oil level sensor since I want to stop that seepage of oil with oil change (due) as posted in some previous posts.

    Some parts that I bought off eBay are awaiting coming of an ex-student in Germany probably in September, In Sha Allah.

    Will keep updating as soon as something worthwhile happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x2 View Post
    @CosmicSynergy:
    Nothing much happening on car front since it is summers and there is no job like teaching in summers!
    Car is mainly not used a lot and wont be used much until next year since I have a friend's car who has gone abroad and I recently swapped its engine. So all mechanicy is being done on it.

    I ordered few things from AutohausAZ.com USA and they have arrived. Mainly the two o-rings on oil level sensor since I want to stop that seepage of oil with oil change (due) as posted in some previous posts.

    Some parts that I bought off eBay are awaiting coming of an ex-student in Germany probably in September, In Sha Allah.

    Will keep updating as soon as something worthwhile happens.
    Do the Autohauz people ship to Pakistan?

    If so how was the experience?


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    Most of my network works through friends and students (another good thing teaching has to offer)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by x2 View Post
    @CosmicSynergy:
    Nothing much happening on car front since it is summers and there is no job like teaching in summers!
    Car is mainly not used a lot and wont be used much until next year since I have a friend's car who has gone abroad and I recently swapped its engine. So all mechanicy is being done on it.

    I ordered few things from AutohausAZ.com USA and they have arrived. Mainly the two o-rings on oil level sensor since I want to stop that seepage of oil with oil change (due) as posted in some previous posts.

    Some parts that I bought off eBay are awaiting coming of an ex-student in Germany probably in September, In Sha Allah.

    Will keep updating as soon as something worthwhile happens.
    its cheaper to get them from dubai - but you need the EPC to get the part nos. correct.
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    @ x2 how is ur aircon working??? i am hearing some gurgling sound of water once i switch it on any ideas???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschall View Post
    @ x2 how is ur aircon working??? i am hearing some gurgling sound of water once i switch it on any ideas???
    you are low on coolant or you have an airlock in the heater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    its cheaper to get them from dubai - but you need the EPC to get the part nos. correct.
    How to get access to EPC? MBUSA one has converted to a subscription based service, and they don't cover the frugal 2200cc engines usually!


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    you need the global EPC, not the american one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    you are low on coolant or you have an airlock in the heater.
    My airconditioner is working fine.
    I had a prior experience with my Honda city. I would hear the gurgling sounds and then one day I discovered that it was because I was low on coolant. Just as Xulfiqar Sb has mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    you need the global EPC, not the american one.
    How to get this access?

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    Quote Originally Posted by x2 View Post
    How to get this access?
    you will need to buy this service or buy it as a CD - but it wont have any updated parts (you can look up your part nos. online to find any updated part)
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    Quote Originally Posted by x2 View Post
    Most of my network works through friends and students (another good thing teaching has to offer)!
    Which subject do you teach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    you will need to buy this service or buy it as a CD - but it wont have any updated parts (you can look up your part nos. online to find any updated part)
    So those CDs work! Always thought of them to be a sham- selling on ebay!


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    I access mine on MB website you can purchase a days pass or if you have really deep pockets a years subscription



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    Quote Originally Posted by rajaahmed96 View Post
    Which subject do you teach?
    Circuits, Logic Design, Programming, Probability and Random Processes etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x2 View Post
    My airconditioner is working fine.
    I had a prior experience with my Honda city. I would hear the gurgling sounds and then one day I discovered that it was because I was low on coolant. Just as Xulfiqar Sb has mentioned.
    @Marschall:
    My Mercedes had been standing for almost a month and I had been experimenting with a friend's honda city engine swapping. Today when I decided to run it I found the AC system 'free' of gas!!! Looks like the gas freed itself in this one month!

    So I take my words back that the ac is working fine!

    Tomorrow I will show it to some guy in G-8 who has been praised a lot on Pakwheels for his professionalism as well as honesty. I believe, I must debug the leakage or else this will keep on happening with me over and over again!

    Though perhaps I should be contacting Aqeel first.

    What would you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by x2 View Post
    @Marschall:
    My Mercedes had been standing for almost a month and I had been experimenting with a friend's honda city engine swapping. Today when I decided to run it I found the AC system 'free' of gas!!! Looks like the gas freed itself in this one month!

    So I take my words back that the ac is working fine!

    Tomorrow I will show it to some guy in G-8 who has been praised a lot on Pakwheels for his professionalism as well as honesty. I believe, I must debug the leakage or else this will keep on happening with me over and over again!

    Though perhaps I should be contacting Aqeel first.

    What would you suggest?

    sounds like your last A/C tech was not smart. I would suggest you have your A/C tech test the evaporator for leakage by isolating it from the system - pump up to 150 psi and test for drop. And make sure you use proper sized HNBR O rings - mercedes benz sizes are usually a bit thicker than normal.
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    @x2 opinion from Aqeel is not a bad idea, but who in g8 are you talking about Javed???
    Sir did u get that window sorted out??
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    Quote Originally Posted by x2 View Post
    @Marschall:
    My Mercedes had been standing for almost a month and I had been experimenting with a friend's honda city engine swapping. Today when I decided to run it I found the AC system 'free' of gas!!! Looks like the gas freed itself in this one month!

    So I take my words back that the ac is working fine!

    Tomorrow I will show it to some guy in G-8 who has been praised a lot on Pakwheels for his professionalism as well as honesty. I believe, I must debug the leakage or else this will keep on happening with me over and over again!

    Though perhaps I should be contacting Aqeel first.

    What would you suggest?
    I pray that it is not the evaporator!


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