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    Default Proof of Ravi storm 125 as being Chinese origin

    Since the day one of introduction of Ravi storm 125, its marketers have always tried to lie on the question about:

    Where its engine and other parts are imported from?

    And the answer is like this stated on their website:

    Ravi Piaggio 125: is it 100% Italian, Imported or Local Assembled?

    The Ravi Piaggio 125 or Ravi Storm 125 is designed by Italian Engineers. Its 80% parts are imported and 20% parts are manufactured in Pakistan. Being as an OEM standard manufacturing concern we are also manufacturing 10% parts in our factory (Ravi Automobile). The bike is then assembled in Pakistan.

    Here is the link:
    Ravi Piaggio 125: is it 100% Italian, Imported or Local Assembled? | Ravi Motorcycles

    somehow, they always forget to mention that they are OEM of ZPFM China and not of Piaggio Italy. The same abhorrent policy has always been applied by their supporters all the time even knowingly that what they are claiming is a lie.

    It has always remained a debate on Ravi Piaggio threads but the stubborn headed persons have always refused to admit that its a motorcycle coming from ZPFM China.

    In the past mamehmood and sbrana of Ravi motorcycles also tried the same policy on their forums, but they could not withstand the proofs provided by the Pakwheels members and eventually agreed on that its a ZPFM China product. One of the oldest Ravi Storm 125 thread was closed at the request of mamehmood who could not withstand the questions of its buyers.

    In recent days, some members are again lying and boasting about Ravi storm 125 as not being coming from China.

    These so called fans are trying to proof that this motorcycle is either being manufactured in Pakistan with the collaboration of Piaggio Italy, or its engine or other parts are coming direct from Italy. But the things are opposite to it.

    Though most of the guys know its origin, and they have always bashed the liars, but still some of the marketers always try to make others
    fool, and even ridicule the honest riders which hurts a lot of people.

    I am making this thread so that every body will once and forever know whats the truth. I think I have enough proof to claim that I am right. I will also ask my fellows to support me with valid links and information so that we could proof that right is always right.


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    thats y engaging in such a discussion will bring u close to such useless discusion.. like i was brought to by those few members who were behaving like related to ravi and not (?)instead of behaving as fellow members.. and i didn't got the answer neither will i get from this forum..
    ... and i was to point you to this post that its useless discussion ...


    much has been revealed about piaggio since then....

    my original concern was is it (storm) the same piaggio that piagioi makes in china and sales there OR is zhongsheng producing and exporting it on its own without asking piaggio italian ( and piaggio say pochay baghair pakistan ma sale karnay la matlab ya hova ka ya copy ha.. jis k i quality low bhi hoi sakthi ha.. chonka piagio ka is pa koi controle nahi hoga..) ...
    and chiniese are notorious for doing this.. they get licence for one thing then that company after getting know how produces replics of doubtful quality and sales them in a way that portrays it as janyaan..

    just look at DYL it has/had association with yamaha japan and started producing thoom on its portrayed as janyaan yamaha product.. and many dealers and mechanics even say its yama ... even today .. and everyone here knows about fate of dyl ...


    now i m sure its engine got much juice..and its a decent bike.. but looking at price and spareparts i hesitate to recomend it.. personally

    .. and i said earlier in my first post on this thread that i agree on some valid points raised by you ,,ya itna bara ishara tha. but again its users of bikes with whom this discussion is .. and they have nothing to do with ravi..

    its upto ravi to create awareness about their items.. and do it openly with big heart .. rather then its owners .. [ and ravi fans should not overtake the duty of ravi ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueHorn View Post
    @ bike_junky - very good discussion going on. Thanks brother for bringing your point with evidence. Ravi people are still trying to fool us by saying it is Italian bike. Today I visited McLore rd and had a convo with one of their dealers.

    he said 'bike'e engine is imported from Italy and frame is made in pakistan'. he refused that even a thread on ravi is from china. i showed him evidence from this thread and he goes very nervous and angry at same time. Pakistan doesnt have a proper customer protection body else they should be informed that ravi management is mis-leading its customers.

    @All - This thread is very informative and I would like to request mods to make it sticky.
    they are not to be trusted too much.. even yesteday my cousion wanted to buy a 70 and we stoped by a dyl dealer and he said its yama dhoom... later he bought cd70 as he was a big fan of it and wanted to sale it after few years ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by asjdsm View Post
    thats y engaging in such a discussion will bring u close to such useless discusion.. like i was brought to by those few members who were behaving like related to ravi and not (?)instead of behaving as fellow members.. and i didn't got the answer neither will i get from this forum..
    ... and i was to point you to this post that its useless discussion ...


    much has been revealed about piaggio since then....

    my original concern was is it (storm) the same piaggio that piagioi makes in china and sales there OR is zhongsheng producing and exporting it on its own without asking piaggio italian ( and piaggio say pochay baghair pakistan ma sale karnay la matlab ya hova ka ya copy ha.. jis k i quality low bhi hoi sakthi ha.. chonka piagio ka is pa koi controle nahi hoga..) ...
    and chiniese are notorious for doing this.. they get licence for one thing then that company after getting know how produces replics of doubtful quality and sales them in a way that portrays it as janyaan..

    now i m sure its engine got much juice..and its a decent bike.. but looking at price and spareparts i hesitate to recomend it.. personally

    .. and i said earlier in my first post on this thread that i agree on some valid points raised by you ,,ya itna bara ishara tha. but again its users of bikes with whom this discussion is .. and they have nothing to do with ravi..

    its upto ravi to create awareness about their items.. and do it openly with big heart .. rather then its owners .. [ and ravi fans should not overtake the duty of ravi ]
    the discussion could have been done more beautifully with discipline
    yeah i agree with you ravi owners/fans takes everything said about ravi very seriously

    The Thread owner has successfully raised question on ravi with proofs?
    now ravi should clearup thing to its customers

    and thread owner is clearly saying that this thread has not been created to claim that every chinese product is crap
    he agreeing that chinese do produce reliable good quality products
    worlds biggest companies are using chinese parts in their products
    so I think Ravi storm 125 is good product a good competitor for Atlas honda
    specially looking at satisfied customers using Ravi storm since years
    so i don't care wether Ravi is chinese or Italian
    many people saying that Atlas honda is using chinese parts in their products
    Are we sure that Atlas honda is giving pure japanese made motorcycle??

    So I welcome Ravi entrance in pakistan motorcycle industry
    and i think they have good motorcycles
    specially Storm 125 which is totally changed bike from traditional 125's in pakistan

    I hope from now on things go well ahead and no more serious fights starts again over Ravi
    as this is really becoming a big headache

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    Quote Originally Posted by amjad635 View Post
    the discussion could have been done more beautifully with discipline
    yeah i agree with you ravi owners/fans takes everything said about ravi very seriously

    The Thread owner has successfully raised question on ravi with proofs?
    now ravi should clearup thing to its customers

    and thread owner is clearly saying that this thread has not been created to claim that every chinese product is crap
    he agreeing that chinese do produce reliable good quality products
    worlds biggest companies are using chinese parts in their products
    so I think Ravi storm 125 is good product a good competitor for Atlas honda
    specially looking at satisfied customers using Ravi storm since years
    so i don't care wether Ravi is chinese or Italian
    many people saying that Atlas honda is using chinese parts in their products
    Are we sure that Atlas honda is giving pure japanese made motorcycle??

    So I welcome Ravi entrance in pakistan motorcycle industry
    and i think they have good motorcycles
    specially Storm 125 which is totally changed bike from traditional 125's in pakistan

    I hope from now on things go well ahead and no more serious fights starts again over Ravi
    as this is really becoming a big headache
    purani batain ha .. those were sorted out.. no issue left..

    however taali aik hath sa nahi bajthi.. esp if ur opponent is having ravi storm 125 .. and that is the cause of the thread as well as i see it.. moreover i am very impressed by petras bukhari mazmoon about kutay.. hahahaha... school ka zamanay ma para tha .. was real pleasure reading how that man compared dogs and human.. a bit harsh mazmoon but worth reading.

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    @All , Thread based on HATE must be banned and closed immediately...

    its a real shame for all those lurkers who infact try to defame a product ...

    now as Every body knows Ravi storm is a joint collaborative effort of ZongShen and Paiggo ..... so if it is Chinese then our beloved IPHONE, NOKIA, IBM, and you name it all products are Chinese as well... and we are proud user of all those products... and we always say iphone tu apple USA ka hay... any way... paiggo storm, manufactured in china and assembled in lahore is a fine machine.... as far as i know. not matching it to CG.... CG has its own merits/ demerits... love all bikes,..


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    i hope tooo .... mene tu pehly bhi atlas zindabad.. ravi zindabad... mitti pao!!!..


    Quote Originally Posted by amjad635 View Post

    I hope from now on things go well ahead and no more serious fights starts again over Ravi
    as this is really becoming a big headache
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/motorcycle-travel-diaries/277725-sober-riders-visit-khunjerab-adventurous-way-via-nori-pass

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    This is never going to end.......pointless and disgusting discussion.

    Got back to PW after a very long time and much sad to read such disgraceful and spitefully malevolent posts by few old and new members.

    Please do tell me all short tempered members what have you gained by throwing mud on each other?
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    here are some pics italian ambassador "Vincenzo Prati" visit to ravi automobile
    Proof of Ravi storm 125 as being Chinese origin -458040Proof of Ravi storm 125 as being Chinese origin -458042Proof of Ravi storm 125 as being Chinese origin -458044Proof of Ravi storm 125 as being Chinese origin -458045 Proof of Ravi storm 125 as being Chinese origin -458046
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